Does NTFS store the hash or CRC32 of every inode/file, how to acesss it?












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I know how to read a file, pass these bytes to a hashing algorithm such as MD5SUM, SHA256 or CRC32, and get the hash.



Here I'm asking something slightly different:



Each time we write/modify a file on a NTFS partition, does it re-compute a hash or CRC32 and store this information in the NTFS metadata / FAT / MFT (Master File Table) (I don't remember the exact name)?



Note: the important thing is that I just want to read the stored hash/CRC stored in the filesystem (i.e. read a few bytes, should be a few milliseconds maximum), and not recompute the hash (that would take many seconds for a 10 GB file).





If so, how to access this CRC or hash for a specific file, using Python? Is there something like:



import ntfsutil
ntfsutil.getCRC('d:/big50GBfile.dat') # done in < 10 ms









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    No.

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:06











  • @user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

    – Basj
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:41













  • NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 18:36











  • You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

    – eryksun
    Nov 25 '18 at 1:51











  • @eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

    – Basj
    Nov 25 '18 at 11:12


















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I know how to read a file, pass these bytes to a hashing algorithm such as MD5SUM, SHA256 or CRC32, and get the hash.



Here I'm asking something slightly different:



Each time we write/modify a file on a NTFS partition, does it re-compute a hash or CRC32 and store this information in the NTFS metadata / FAT / MFT (Master File Table) (I don't remember the exact name)?



Note: the important thing is that I just want to read the stored hash/CRC stored in the filesystem (i.e. read a few bytes, should be a few milliseconds maximum), and not recompute the hash (that would take many seconds for a 10 GB file).





If so, how to access this CRC or hash for a specific file, using Python? Is there something like:



import ntfsutil
ntfsutil.getCRC('d:/big50GBfile.dat') # done in < 10 ms









share|improve this question


















  • 1





    No.

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:06











  • @user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

    – Basj
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:41













  • NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 18:36











  • You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

    – eryksun
    Nov 25 '18 at 1:51











  • @eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

    – Basj
    Nov 25 '18 at 11:12
















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I know how to read a file, pass these bytes to a hashing algorithm such as MD5SUM, SHA256 or CRC32, and get the hash.



Here I'm asking something slightly different:



Each time we write/modify a file on a NTFS partition, does it re-compute a hash or CRC32 and store this information in the NTFS metadata / FAT / MFT (Master File Table) (I don't remember the exact name)?



Note: the important thing is that I just want to read the stored hash/CRC stored in the filesystem (i.e. read a few bytes, should be a few milliseconds maximum), and not recompute the hash (that would take many seconds for a 10 GB file).





If so, how to access this CRC or hash for a specific file, using Python? Is there something like:



import ntfsutil
ntfsutil.getCRC('d:/big50GBfile.dat') # done in < 10 ms









share|improve this question














I know how to read a file, pass these bytes to a hashing algorithm such as MD5SUM, SHA256 or CRC32, and get the hash.



Here I'm asking something slightly different:



Each time we write/modify a file on a NTFS partition, does it re-compute a hash or CRC32 and store this information in the NTFS metadata / FAT / MFT (Master File Table) (I don't remember the exact name)?



Note: the important thing is that I just want to read the stored hash/CRC stored in the filesystem (i.e. read a few bytes, should be a few milliseconds maximum), and not recompute the hash (that would take many seconds for a 10 GB file).





If so, how to access this CRC or hash for a specific file, using Python? Is there something like:



import ntfsutil
ntfsutil.getCRC('d:/big50GBfile.dat') # done in < 10 ms






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  • 1





    No.

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:06











  • @user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

    – Basj
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:41













  • NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 18:36











  • You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

    – eryksun
    Nov 25 '18 at 1:51











  • @eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

    – Basj
    Nov 25 '18 at 11:12
















  • 1





    No.

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:06











  • @user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

    – Basj
    Nov 24 '18 at 11:41













  • NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

    – user2357112
    Nov 24 '18 at 18:36











  • You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

    – eryksun
    Nov 25 '18 at 1:51











  • @eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

    – Basj
    Nov 25 '18 at 11:12










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No.

– user2357112
Nov 24 '18 at 11:06





No.

– user2357112
Nov 24 '18 at 11:06













@user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

– Basj
Nov 24 '18 at 11:41







@user2357112 So the only way is to re-compute the hash/checksum each time I need it? NTFS cannot be configured to store checksums? PS: prime number sequence in your pseudo (nearly), is it on purpose? :)

– Basj
Nov 24 '18 at 11:41















NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

– user2357112
Nov 24 '18 at 18:36





NTFS doesn't do file checksums. (Also, the 2 3 5 7 11 thing was pure luck, but it's part of the reason I never changed my default username.)

– user2357112
Nov 24 '18 at 18:36













You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

– eryksun
Nov 25 '18 at 1:51





You could cache the checksum and corresponding last-write timestamp in an alternate data stream, e.g. "big50GBfile.dat:md5". This "md5" stream will be lost if the file is copied to a file system that doesn't support named streams (e.g. FAT32).

– eryksun
Nov 25 '18 at 1:51













@eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

– Basj
Nov 25 '18 at 11:12







@eryksun Wow, this is the first time I hear about streams, very cool! howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…. For future ref: notepad c:test.txt:secret will create a stream named secret! Funny that this is so rarely used...

– Basj
Nov 25 '18 at 11:12














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