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I have been searching all areas of the internet to try and find a reliable formula for estimating cable length on a reel,



I'm trying to create a faster and more reliable way to estimate cable to enhance the speed of our Stock Take.



So far I have found one formula that makes sense to an extent but falls short on the layers calculation (step 6-8) this can be found here: http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7464814_estimate-cable-reel.html



The reel sizes and cable diameter change per reel.



I used the guide above to measure a single wrap around of cat 5e, 4 layers thick and the results were out by at least 200mm, (77% inaccuracy)



Here are the measurements i recorded;




Center of the reel diameter : 57.5mm

Cable diameter : 4.3mm

Width of the Reel : 4.3mm (single layer of the cat 5e),

Flange Used : 17.2mm



Total Length : 756mm - Using the formula below



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Formula for working out the 4 layers is:

Using the Example Above

Layer 1 = (4.3*2)3.14

Layer 2 = (4.3*2+4.3)3.14

Layer 3 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*2)3.14

Layer 4 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*3)3.14



Can anyone see where i am going wrong?



I Manually counted the length and it was 980mm



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I noticed a trend in the increase of length per layer which was 30mm, is this relevant to factor in at any point in the guide?



I am by no means a Math Professional, so my mind is slightly boggled!



Any help at all would be appreciated.



Thank you










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    anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
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    – Matthew
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I have been searching all areas of the internet to try and find a reliable formula for estimating cable length on a reel,



I'm trying to create a faster and more reliable way to estimate cable to enhance the speed of our Stock Take.



So far I have found one formula that makes sense to an extent but falls short on the layers calculation (step 6-8) this can be found here: http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7464814_estimate-cable-reel.html



The reel sizes and cable diameter change per reel.



I used the guide above to measure a single wrap around of cat 5e, 4 layers thick and the results were out by at least 200mm, (77% inaccuracy)



Here are the measurements i recorded;




Center of the reel diameter : 57.5mm

Cable diameter : 4.3mm

Width of the Reel : 4.3mm (single layer of the cat 5e),

Flange Used : 17.2mm



Total Length : 756mm - Using the formula below



Start of Edit

Formula for working out the 4 layers is:

Using the Example Above

Layer 1 = (4.3*2)3.14

Layer 2 = (4.3*2+4.3)3.14

Layer 3 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*2)3.14

Layer 4 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*3)3.14



Can anyone see where i am going wrong?



I Manually counted the length and it was 980mm



End Of Edit



I noticed a trend in the increase of length per layer which was 30mm, is this relevant to factor in at any point in the guide?



I am by no means a Math Professional, so my mind is slightly boggled!



Any help at all would be appreciated.



Thank you










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  • $begingroup$
    anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Dec 8 '15 at 9:51










  • $begingroup$
    I'm voting to close this question because it's old; I suspect the OP no longer needs an answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Ethan Bolker
    Oct 15 '18 at 14:11














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I have been searching all areas of the internet to try and find a reliable formula for estimating cable length on a reel,



I'm trying to create a faster and more reliable way to estimate cable to enhance the speed of our Stock Take.



So far I have found one formula that makes sense to an extent but falls short on the layers calculation (step 6-8) this can be found here: http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7464814_estimate-cable-reel.html



The reel sizes and cable diameter change per reel.



I used the guide above to measure a single wrap around of cat 5e, 4 layers thick and the results were out by at least 200mm, (77% inaccuracy)



Here are the measurements i recorded;




Center of the reel diameter : 57.5mm

Cable diameter : 4.3mm

Width of the Reel : 4.3mm (single layer of the cat 5e),

Flange Used : 17.2mm



Total Length : 756mm - Using the formula below



Start of Edit

Formula for working out the 4 layers is:

Using the Example Above

Layer 1 = (4.3*2)3.14

Layer 2 = (4.3*2+4.3)3.14

Layer 3 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*2)3.14

Layer 4 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*3)3.14



Can anyone see where i am going wrong?



I Manually counted the length and it was 980mm



End Of Edit



I noticed a trend in the increase of length per layer which was 30mm, is this relevant to factor in at any point in the guide?



I am by no means a Math Professional, so my mind is slightly boggled!



Any help at all would be appreciated.



Thank you










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I have been searching all areas of the internet to try and find a reliable formula for estimating cable length on a reel,



I'm trying to create a faster and more reliable way to estimate cable to enhance the speed of our Stock Take.



So far I have found one formula that makes sense to an extent but falls short on the layers calculation (step 6-8) this can be found here: http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7464814_estimate-cable-reel.html



The reel sizes and cable diameter change per reel.



I used the guide above to measure a single wrap around of cat 5e, 4 layers thick and the results were out by at least 200mm, (77% inaccuracy)



Here are the measurements i recorded;




Center of the reel diameter : 57.5mm

Cable diameter : 4.3mm

Width of the Reel : 4.3mm (single layer of the cat 5e),

Flange Used : 17.2mm



Total Length : 756mm - Using the formula below



Start of Edit

Formula for working out the 4 layers is:

Using the Example Above

Layer 1 = (4.3*2)3.14

Layer 2 = (4.3*2+4.3)3.14

Layer 3 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*2)3.14

Layer 4 = (4.3*2+4.3+4.3*3)3.14



Can anyone see where i am going wrong?



I Manually counted the length and it was 980mm



End Of Edit



I noticed a trend in the increase of length per layer which was 30mm, is this relevant to factor in at any point in the guide?



I am by no means a Math Professional, so my mind is slightly boggled!



Any help at all would be appreciated.



Thank you







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  • $begingroup$
    anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Dec 8 '15 at 9:51










  • $begingroup$
    I'm voting to close this question because it's old; I suspect the OP no longer needs an answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Ethan Bolker
    Oct 15 '18 at 14:11


















  • $begingroup$
    anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Dec 8 '15 at 9:51










  • $begingroup$
    I'm voting to close this question because it's old; I suspect the OP no longer needs an answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Ethan Bolker
    Oct 15 '18 at 14:11
















$begingroup$
anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
$endgroup$
– Matthew
Dec 8 '15 at 9:51




$begingroup$
anyone have any idea on a standard formula for calculating cable length on a drum/reel?
$endgroup$
– Matthew
Dec 8 '15 at 9:51












$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question because it's old; I suspect the OP no longer needs an answer.
$endgroup$
– Ethan Bolker
Oct 15 '18 at 14:11




$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question because it's old; I suspect the OP no longer needs an answer.
$endgroup$
– Ethan Bolker
Oct 15 '18 at 14:11










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  1. Weigh the reel.

  2. Weigh or estimate the weight of an empty reel (may be negligible).

  3. Weigh a metre of cable.


$$Cable space length = {[1] - [2] over [3]}$$



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    Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
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  1. Weigh the reel.

  2. Weigh or estimate the weight of an empty reel (may be negligible).

  3. Weigh a metre of cable.


$$Cable space length = {[1] - [2] over [3]}$$



Not mathematics.






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    Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Nov 25 '15 at 14:46


















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$begingroup$


  1. Weigh the reel.

  2. Weigh or estimate the weight of an empty reel (may be negligible).

  3. Weigh a metre of cable.


$$Cable space length = {[1] - [2] over [3]}$$



Not mathematics.






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  • $begingroup$
    Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Nov 25 '15 at 14:46
















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$begingroup$


  1. Weigh the reel.

  2. Weigh or estimate the weight of an empty reel (may be negligible).

  3. Weigh a metre of cable.


$$Cable space length = {[1] - [2] over [3]}$$



Not mathematics.






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  1. Weigh the reel.

  2. Weigh or estimate the weight of an empty reel (may be negligible).

  3. Weigh a metre of cable.


$$Cable space length = {[1] - [2] over [3]}$$



Not mathematics.







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    Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
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  • $begingroup$
    Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew
    Nov 25 '15 at 14:46


















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Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
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– Matthew
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Hi, Thanks for suggestion, however weighing the cable is not really ideal for the given situation, surely there is a calculation that can estimate cable length given various measurements?
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