Inverse function being onto.












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Follow up on this question:



As you can see from this link



$Phi=f^{-1}circ h$ is well defined and maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$ now in my textbook the next theorem following what I posted in the link, is as follows:



Theorem 2
Let $f:[a,b]subseteq Rto R^n$ and $h:[c,d]subseteq Rto R^n$ be 1-1 parametrizations of a simple arc C in $R^n$ Then there exists a unique function $Phi$ from [a,b] onto [c,d] such that $h=fcircPhi$. Moreover, $Phi$ is continuous and strictly monotonic.



Now I am getting confused as the proof provided for theorem 2 is the teorem provided in the link( 'Follow up question') but in the follow up question $Phi$ maps [c,d] onto [a,b] and not opposite. What am I missing?



to be more specific the proof states:



By Theorem 1(link) the function $Phi$ is 1-1, continuous and strictly monotonic.










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    $phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:10








  • 1




    I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
    – José Carlos Santos
    Nov 29 at 12:13






  • 1




    Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:24








  • 1




    That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:37






  • 1




    That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 13:32


















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Follow up on this question:



As you can see from this link



$Phi=f^{-1}circ h$ is well defined and maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$ now in my textbook the next theorem following what I posted in the link, is as follows:



Theorem 2
Let $f:[a,b]subseteq Rto R^n$ and $h:[c,d]subseteq Rto R^n$ be 1-1 parametrizations of a simple arc C in $R^n$ Then there exists a unique function $Phi$ from [a,b] onto [c,d] such that $h=fcircPhi$. Moreover, $Phi$ is continuous and strictly monotonic.



Now I am getting confused as the proof provided for theorem 2 is the teorem provided in the link( 'Follow up question') but in the follow up question $Phi$ maps [c,d] onto [a,b] and not opposite. What am I missing?



to be more specific the proof states:



By Theorem 1(link) the function $Phi$ is 1-1, continuous and strictly monotonic.










share|cite|improve this question


















  • 2




    $phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:10








  • 1




    I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
    – José Carlos Santos
    Nov 29 at 12:13






  • 1




    Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:24








  • 1




    That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:37






  • 1




    That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 13:32
















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0








0







Follow up on this question:



As you can see from this link



$Phi=f^{-1}circ h$ is well defined and maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$ now in my textbook the next theorem following what I posted in the link, is as follows:



Theorem 2
Let $f:[a,b]subseteq Rto R^n$ and $h:[c,d]subseteq Rto R^n$ be 1-1 parametrizations of a simple arc C in $R^n$ Then there exists a unique function $Phi$ from [a,b] onto [c,d] such that $h=fcircPhi$. Moreover, $Phi$ is continuous and strictly monotonic.



Now I am getting confused as the proof provided for theorem 2 is the teorem provided in the link( 'Follow up question') but in the follow up question $Phi$ maps [c,d] onto [a,b] and not opposite. What am I missing?



to be more specific the proof states:



By Theorem 1(link) the function $Phi$ is 1-1, continuous and strictly monotonic.










share|cite|improve this question













Follow up on this question:



As you can see from this link



$Phi=f^{-1}circ h$ is well defined and maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$ now in my textbook the next theorem following what I posted in the link, is as follows:



Theorem 2
Let $f:[a,b]subseteq Rto R^n$ and $h:[c,d]subseteq Rto R^n$ be 1-1 parametrizations of a simple arc C in $R^n$ Then there exists a unique function $Phi$ from [a,b] onto [c,d] such that $h=fcircPhi$. Moreover, $Phi$ is continuous and strictly monotonic.



Now I am getting confused as the proof provided for theorem 2 is the teorem provided in the link( 'Follow up question') but in the follow up question $Phi$ maps [c,d] onto [a,b] and not opposite. What am I missing?



to be more specific the proof states:



By Theorem 1(link) the function $Phi$ is 1-1, continuous and strictly monotonic.







proof-explanation multilinear-algebra






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    $phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:10








  • 1




    I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
    – José Carlos Santos
    Nov 29 at 12:13






  • 1




    Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:24








  • 1




    That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:37






  • 1




    That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 13:32
















  • 2




    $phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:10








  • 1




    I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
    – José Carlos Santos
    Nov 29 at 12:13






  • 1




    Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:24








  • 1




    That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 12:37






  • 1




    That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
    – Shubham Johri
    Nov 29 at 13:32










2




2




$phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:10






$phi$ should map $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]. h$ is defined on $[c,d]$, and $f$ is defined over $[a,b]$, so $phi: [c,d]rightarrow[a,b], phi(t)=frac{a-b}{c-d}t+frac{bc-ad}{c-d}$
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:10






1




1




I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 29 at 12:13




I suppose that you have spotted an error on your textbook.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 29 at 12:13




1




1




Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:24






Note that it is generally not true that a curve will span the entire codomain $mathbb R^n$. When we talk about the invertibility of $f$, we are talking about $f$ being surjective on its range, $f([a,b])$, which is always true. Also, since $phi$ maps $[c,d]$ onto $[a,b]$, the range of $f$ and $h=fcircphi$ is identical. So, the case of $f$ and $h$ having different ranges doesn't arise.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:24






1




1




That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:37




That is true. Their range is the curve $mathbb C$.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 12:37




1




1




That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 13:32






That is one way of seeing it. You could also say that every point in $[a,b]$ is the image of some point in $[c,d]$ under $phi$ i.e. $R(phi)=phi([c,d])=[a,b]$, so the range of $h=h([c,d])=f(phi([c,d]))=f([a,b])=R(f)$, the range of $f$.
– Shubham Johri
Nov 29 at 13:32

















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