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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?



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  • You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
    – Martin R
    Nov 29 at 17:32










  • Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:06










  • @MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:35


















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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?



Can anyone help?










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closed as off-topic by Brahadeesh, Did, Alexander Gruber Nov 30 at 3:09


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." – Brahadeesh, Did, Alexander Gruber

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  • You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
    – Martin R
    Nov 29 at 17:32










  • Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:06










  • @MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:35
















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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?



Can anyone help?










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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?



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closed as off-topic by Brahadeesh, Did, Alexander Gruber Nov 30 at 3:09


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closed as off-topic by Brahadeesh, Did, Alexander Gruber Nov 30 at 3:09


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  • You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
    – Martin R
    Nov 29 at 17:32










  • Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:06










  • @MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:35




















  • You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
    – Martin R
    Nov 29 at 17:32










  • Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:06










  • @MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 29 at 19:35


















You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32




You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32












Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06




Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06












@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35






@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35












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Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then





$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.





Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:



First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)



Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.



Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.





Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.





Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.



Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.






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    Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then





    $sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.





    Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:



    First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)



    Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.



    Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.





    Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.





    Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.



    Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
    Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.






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      Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then





      $sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.





      Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:



      First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)



      Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.



      Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.





      Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.





      Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.



      Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
      Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.






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        Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then





        $sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.





        Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:



        First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)



        Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.



        Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.





        Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.





        Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.



        Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
        Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.






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        Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then





        $sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.





        Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:



        First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)



        Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.



        Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.





        Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.





        Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.



        Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
        Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.







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