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Why didn't he use the dot product?



I'm hoping that $mathbb P_2$ is a polynomial space (I don't even know what that means), probably representable as a vector in $mathbb R^3$.



So now that I'm already so confused I want to make a LITTLE bit of sense here. Two vectors are orthogonal in this vector space if their inner product is zero? Because what he did accomplishes that.










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    The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
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    @Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
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    Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
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eStoY confUSo



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Why didn't he use the dot product?



I'm hoping that $mathbb P_2$ is a polynomial space (I don't even know what that means), probably representable as a vector in $mathbb R^3$.



So now that I'm already so confused I want to make a LITTLE bit of sense here. Two vectors are orthogonal in this vector space if their inner product is zero? Because what he did accomplishes that.










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    $begingroup$
    The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
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    – angryavian
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:18










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    @Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
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    – Andrew D. Hwang
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:20










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    Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
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    – amd
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eStoY confUSo



enter image description here



Why didn't he use the dot product?



I'm hoping that $mathbb P_2$ is a polynomial space (I don't even know what that means), probably representable as a vector in $mathbb R^3$.



So now that I'm already so confused I want to make a LITTLE bit of sense here. Two vectors are orthogonal in this vector space if their inner product is zero? Because what he did accomplishes that.










share|cite|improve this question









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eStoY confUSo



enter image description here



Why didn't he use the dot product?



I'm hoping that $mathbb P_2$ is a polynomial space (I don't even know what that means), probably representable as a vector in $mathbb R^3$.



So now that I'm already so confused I want to make a LITTLE bit of sense here. Two vectors are orthogonal in this vector space if their inner product is zero? Because what he did accomplishes that.







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    The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
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    – angryavian
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:18










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    @Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
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    – Andrew D. Hwang
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:20










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    Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:25
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:18










  • $begingroup$
    @Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
    $endgroup$
    – Andrew D. Hwang
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:20










  • $begingroup$
    Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jul 13 '17 at 20:25










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The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jul 13 '17 at 20:18




$begingroup$
The dot product is a particular example of an inner product, but there are many other inner products, such as the integral one defined above. And yes, orthogonality is defined in the same way, using whichever inner product you happen to be using.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jul 13 '17 at 20:18












$begingroup$
@Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
$endgroup$
– Andrew D. Hwang
Jul 13 '17 at 20:20




$begingroup$
@Saketh: What would you consider to be the "dot product" of $p(x) = ax^{2} + bx + c$ and $q(x) = a'x^{2} + b'x + c'$?
$endgroup$
– Andrew D. Hwang
Jul 13 '17 at 20:20












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Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jul 13 '17 at 20:25






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Well, you can represent them as vectors, but you have to use something other than the basic dot product. You’ll need to use an inner product of the form $xcdot Ay$, where $A$ is some positive-definite matrix.
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You're right, the inner product of two polynomials is defined as
$$langle, p,q, rangle=int_0^1p(t)q(t),mathrm dt, $$
and two polynomials are orthogonal if and only if $;langle, p,q,rangle=0$.



These definitions, b.t.w. are valid in the (infinite-dimensional) vector space $mathbf R[t]$ of all polynomials, and not only in the vector space of degree at most $2$.



He didn't use the dot product of the polynomial coefficients (if I understand well what you mean) simply because the ordinary dot product isn't interesting here, and he chooses another, more useful, inner product.






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    but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
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    – Saketh Malyala
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    There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
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Polynomials as vectors.



The set of polynomials of degree 2 are 3 dimensional vectors.
You have and addition property, and a scalar multiplication property. That is what makes a vector space.



You can even represent them with with the same notation. $(a,b,c) equiv ax^2+bx+c$



The set of function defined at $x_1,x_2,cdots x_n$ is also a vector space. And and we could represent $f(x)$ as $(f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))$



The inner product might be: $langle f(x),g(x)rangle = frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n)) = frac 1n sum_limits{i=1}^n f(x)g(x)$



This is just multiplying the traditional dot product by $frac 1n.$
It is also the definition of co-variance in statistics.



And we extend concept this to continuous functions over the interval $[0,1]$



As $n$ goes to infinity $frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n))$ approaches $int_0^1 f(x)g(x) dx$



It is a well defined inner product, and it is not too far removed from the Euclidean definition you are more comfortable with.



Next you define "orthogonal" as meaning having inner product equal to 0.



Unfortunately this definition of orthogonal no longer ties out with perpendicular in the geometric sense. It does tie out with "independent" as used in prob / statistics.






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    The dot product is defined on $Bbb R^n$, or more generally $Bbb F^n$ by the formula
    $$
    ucdot v = sum u_iv_i,
    $$

    but for vector spaces like $Bbb P_2$, which is, concretely, ${a_0 +a_1x+a_2x^2:a_iinBbb R}$, the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$ with coefficients from $Bbb R$, you can define different inner products which generalize the dot product for Euclidean spaces.



    Formally, an inner product is a map $Vtimes Vto Bbb R$ that satisfies some extra properties. (You can also have complex inner products.) For instance,
    the inner product is linear in the first component, and it should be positive-definite, meaning that $langle v,vrangle ge 0$ and $langle v,vrangle=0$ if and only if $v=0$. Inner products should also be symmetric, meaning $langle v,wrangle = langle w,vrangle$. (If the inner product takes values in $Bbb C$, then symmetry is replaced with conjugate symmetry $langle v,wrangle = overline{langle w,vrangle}$.)



    You should check that the dot product is an example of an inner product.



    Vector spaces equipped with an inner product are called inner product spaces and if $V$ is an inner product space, then two vectors are declared to be orthogonal if $langle v,wrangle = 0$.



    Finally, check that $langle p,qrangle = displaystyle int_0^1 p(t)q(t),dt$ is an inner product on $Bbb P_2$.






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      You're right, the inner product of two polynomials is defined as
      $$langle, p,q, rangle=int_0^1p(t)q(t),mathrm dt, $$
      and two polynomials are orthogonal if and only if $;langle, p,q,rangle=0$.



      These definitions, b.t.w. are valid in the (infinite-dimensional) vector space $mathbf R[t]$ of all polynomials, and not only in the vector space of degree at most $2$.



      He didn't use the dot product of the polynomial coefficients (if I understand well what you mean) simply because the ordinary dot product isn't interesting here, and he chooses another, more useful, inner product.






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        but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
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        – Saketh Malyala
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        There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
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        – Bernard
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      You're right, the inner product of two polynomials is defined as
      $$langle, p,q, rangle=int_0^1p(t)q(t),mathrm dt, $$
      and two polynomials are orthogonal if and only if $;langle, p,q,rangle=0$.



      These definitions, b.t.w. are valid in the (infinite-dimensional) vector space $mathbf R[t]$ of all polynomials, and not only in the vector space of degree at most $2$.



      He didn't use the dot product of the polynomial coefficients (if I understand well what you mean) simply because the ordinary dot product isn't interesting here, and he chooses another, more useful, inner product.






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        but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
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        There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
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      You're right, the inner product of two polynomials is defined as
      $$langle, p,q, rangle=int_0^1p(t)q(t),mathrm dt, $$
      and two polynomials are orthogonal if and only if $;langle, p,q,rangle=0$.



      These definitions, b.t.w. are valid in the (infinite-dimensional) vector space $mathbf R[t]$ of all polynomials, and not only in the vector space of degree at most $2$.



      He didn't use the dot product of the polynomial coefficients (if I understand well what you mean) simply because the ordinary dot product isn't interesting here, and he chooses another, more useful, inner product.






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      You're right, the inner product of two polynomials is defined as
      $$langle, p,q, rangle=int_0^1p(t)q(t),mathrm dt, $$
      and two polynomials are orthogonal if and only if $;langle, p,q,rangle=0$.



      These definitions, b.t.w. are valid in the (infinite-dimensional) vector space $mathbf R[t]$ of all polynomials, and not only in the vector space of degree at most $2$.



      He didn't use the dot product of the polynomial coefficients (if I understand well what you mean) simply because the ordinary dot product isn't interesting here, and he chooses another, more useful, inner product.







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        but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
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        – Saketh Malyala
        Jul 13 '17 at 23:54






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        $begingroup$
        There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
        $endgroup$
        – Bernard
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        but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
        $endgroup$
        – Saketh Malyala
        Jul 13 '17 at 23:54






      • 3




        $begingroup$
        There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
        $endgroup$
        – Bernard
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      but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
      $endgroup$
      – Saketh Malyala
      Jul 13 '17 at 23:54




      $begingroup$
      but why? that's so random.. i thought we just make our own inner product and play with it.. thank you for telling me that the inner product is predetermined.
      $endgroup$
      – Saketh Malyala
      Jul 13 '17 at 23:54




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      $begingroup$
      There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
      $endgroup$
      – Bernard
      Jul 14 '17 at 0:01






      $begingroup$
      There are many inner products on a given space, each is adapted for specific problems. Orthogonal polynomials are very important in Functional Analysis, and they can correspond to different inner products, mostly defined by a specific integral. Fourier series is another example for spaces of periodic functions.
      $endgroup$
      – Bernard
      Jul 14 '17 at 0:01













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      Polynomials as vectors.



      The set of polynomials of degree 2 are 3 dimensional vectors.
      You have and addition property, and a scalar multiplication property. That is what makes a vector space.



      You can even represent them with with the same notation. $(a,b,c) equiv ax^2+bx+c$



      The set of function defined at $x_1,x_2,cdots x_n$ is also a vector space. And and we could represent $f(x)$ as $(f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))$



      The inner product might be: $langle f(x),g(x)rangle = frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n)) = frac 1n sum_limits{i=1}^n f(x)g(x)$



      This is just multiplying the traditional dot product by $frac 1n.$
      It is also the definition of co-variance in statistics.



      And we extend concept this to continuous functions over the interval $[0,1]$



      As $n$ goes to infinity $frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n))$ approaches $int_0^1 f(x)g(x) dx$



      It is a well defined inner product, and it is not too far removed from the Euclidean definition you are more comfortable with.



      Next you define "orthogonal" as meaning having inner product equal to 0.



      Unfortunately this definition of orthogonal no longer ties out with perpendicular in the geometric sense. It does tie out with "independent" as used in prob / statistics.






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        Polynomials as vectors.



        The set of polynomials of degree 2 are 3 dimensional vectors.
        You have and addition property, and a scalar multiplication property. That is what makes a vector space.



        You can even represent them with with the same notation. $(a,b,c) equiv ax^2+bx+c$



        The set of function defined at $x_1,x_2,cdots x_n$ is also a vector space. And and we could represent $f(x)$ as $(f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))$



        The inner product might be: $langle f(x),g(x)rangle = frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n)) = frac 1n sum_limits{i=1}^n f(x)g(x)$



        This is just multiplying the traditional dot product by $frac 1n.$
        It is also the definition of co-variance in statistics.



        And we extend concept this to continuous functions over the interval $[0,1]$



        As $n$ goes to infinity $frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n))$ approaches $int_0^1 f(x)g(x) dx$



        It is a well defined inner product, and it is not too far removed from the Euclidean definition you are more comfortable with.



        Next you define "orthogonal" as meaning having inner product equal to 0.



        Unfortunately this definition of orthogonal no longer ties out with perpendicular in the geometric sense. It does tie out with "independent" as used in prob / statistics.






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          Polynomials as vectors.



          The set of polynomials of degree 2 are 3 dimensional vectors.
          You have and addition property, and a scalar multiplication property. That is what makes a vector space.



          You can even represent them with with the same notation. $(a,b,c) equiv ax^2+bx+c$



          The set of function defined at $x_1,x_2,cdots x_n$ is also a vector space. And and we could represent $f(x)$ as $(f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))$



          The inner product might be: $langle f(x),g(x)rangle = frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n)) = frac 1n sum_limits{i=1}^n f(x)g(x)$



          This is just multiplying the traditional dot product by $frac 1n.$
          It is also the definition of co-variance in statistics.



          And we extend concept this to continuous functions over the interval $[0,1]$



          As $n$ goes to infinity $frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n))$ approaches $int_0^1 f(x)g(x) dx$



          It is a well defined inner product, and it is not too far removed from the Euclidean definition you are more comfortable with.



          Next you define "orthogonal" as meaning having inner product equal to 0.



          Unfortunately this definition of orthogonal no longer ties out with perpendicular in the geometric sense. It does tie out with "independent" as used in prob / statistics.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Polynomials as vectors.



          The set of polynomials of degree 2 are 3 dimensional vectors.
          You have and addition property, and a scalar multiplication property. That is what makes a vector space.



          You can even represent them with with the same notation. $(a,b,c) equiv ax^2+bx+c$



          The set of function defined at $x_1,x_2,cdots x_n$ is also a vector space. And and we could represent $f(x)$ as $(f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))$



          The inner product might be: $langle f(x),g(x)rangle = frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n)) = frac 1n sum_limits{i=1}^n f(x)g(x)$



          This is just multiplying the traditional dot product by $frac 1n.$
          It is also the definition of co-variance in statistics.



          And we extend concept this to continuous functions over the interval $[0,1]$



          As $n$ goes to infinity $frac 1n (f(x_1), f(x_2),cdots, f(x_n))cdot (g(x_1), g(x_2),cdots, g(x_n))$ approaches $int_0^1 f(x)g(x) dx$



          It is a well defined inner product, and it is not too far removed from the Euclidean definition you are more comfortable with.



          Next you define "orthogonal" as meaning having inner product equal to 0.



          Unfortunately this definition of orthogonal no longer ties out with perpendicular in the geometric sense. It does tie out with "independent" as used in prob / statistics.







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              The dot product is defined on $Bbb R^n$, or more generally $Bbb F^n$ by the formula
              $$
              ucdot v = sum u_iv_i,
              $$

              but for vector spaces like $Bbb P_2$, which is, concretely, ${a_0 +a_1x+a_2x^2:a_iinBbb R}$, the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$ with coefficients from $Bbb R$, you can define different inner products which generalize the dot product for Euclidean spaces.



              Formally, an inner product is a map $Vtimes Vto Bbb R$ that satisfies some extra properties. (You can also have complex inner products.) For instance,
              the inner product is linear in the first component, and it should be positive-definite, meaning that $langle v,vrangle ge 0$ and $langle v,vrangle=0$ if and only if $v=0$. Inner products should also be symmetric, meaning $langle v,wrangle = langle w,vrangle$. (If the inner product takes values in $Bbb C$, then symmetry is replaced with conjugate symmetry $langle v,wrangle = overline{langle w,vrangle}$.)



              You should check that the dot product is an example of an inner product.



              Vector spaces equipped with an inner product are called inner product spaces and if $V$ is an inner product space, then two vectors are declared to be orthogonal if $langle v,wrangle = 0$.



              Finally, check that $langle p,qrangle = displaystyle int_0^1 p(t)q(t),dt$ is an inner product on $Bbb P_2$.






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                The dot product is defined on $Bbb R^n$, or more generally $Bbb F^n$ by the formula
                $$
                ucdot v = sum u_iv_i,
                $$

                but for vector spaces like $Bbb P_2$, which is, concretely, ${a_0 +a_1x+a_2x^2:a_iinBbb R}$, the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$ with coefficients from $Bbb R$, you can define different inner products which generalize the dot product for Euclidean spaces.



                Formally, an inner product is a map $Vtimes Vto Bbb R$ that satisfies some extra properties. (You can also have complex inner products.) For instance,
                the inner product is linear in the first component, and it should be positive-definite, meaning that $langle v,vrangle ge 0$ and $langle v,vrangle=0$ if and only if $v=0$. Inner products should also be symmetric, meaning $langle v,wrangle = langle w,vrangle$. (If the inner product takes values in $Bbb C$, then symmetry is replaced with conjugate symmetry $langle v,wrangle = overline{langle w,vrangle}$.)



                You should check that the dot product is an example of an inner product.



                Vector spaces equipped with an inner product are called inner product spaces and if $V$ is an inner product space, then two vectors are declared to be orthogonal if $langle v,wrangle = 0$.



                Finally, check that $langle p,qrangle = displaystyle int_0^1 p(t)q(t),dt$ is an inner product on $Bbb P_2$.






                share|cite|improve this answer











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                  $begingroup$

                  The dot product is defined on $Bbb R^n$, or more generally $Bbb F^n$ by the formula
                  $$
                  ucdot v = sum u_iv_i,
                  $$

                  but for vector spaces like $Bbb P_2$, which is, concretely, ${a_0 +a_1x+a_2x^2:a_iinBbb R}$, the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$ with coefficients from $Bbb R$, you can define different inner products which generalize the dot product for Euclidean spaces.



                  Formally, an inner product is a map $Vtimes Vto Bbb R$ that satisfies some extra properties. (You can also have complex inner products.) For instance,
                  the inner product is linear in the first component, and it should be positive-definite, meaning that $langle v,vrangle ge 0$ and $langle v,vrangle=0$ if and only if $v=0$. Inner products should also be symmetric, meaning $langle v,wrangle = langle w,vrangle$. (If the inner product takes values in $Bbb C$, then symmetry is replaced with conjugate symmetry $langle v,wrangle = overline{langle w,vrangle}$.)



                  You should check that the dot product is an example of an inner product.



                  Vector spaces equipped with an inner product are called inner product spaces and if $V$ is an inner product space, then two vectors are declared to be orthogonal if $langle v,wrangle = 0$.



                  Finally, check that $langle p,qrangle = displaystyle int_0^1 p(t)q(t),dt$ is an inner product on $Bbb P_2$.






                  share|cite|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$



                  The dot product is defined on $Bbb R^n$, or more generally $Bbb F^n$ by the formula
                  $$
                  ucdot v = sum u_iv_i,
                  $$

                  but for vector spaces like $Bbb P_2$, which is, concretely, ${a_0 +a_1x+a_2x^2:a_iinBbb R}$, the vector space of polynomials of degree no more than $2$ with coefficients from $Bbb R$, you can define different inner products which generalize the dot product for Euclidean spaces.



                  Formally, an inner product is a map $Vtimes Vto Bbb R$ that satisfies some extra properties. (You can also have complex inner products.) For instance,
                  the inner product is linear in the first component, and it should be positive-definite, meaning that $langle v,vrangle ge 0$ and $langle v,vrangle=0$ if and only if $v=0$. Inner products should also be symmetric, meaning $langle v,wrangle = langle w,vrangle$. (If the inner product takes values in $Bbb C$, then symmetry is replaced with conjugate symmetry $langle v,wrangle = overline{langle w,vrangle}$.)



                  You should check that the dot product is an example of an inner product.



                  Vector spaces equipped with an inner product are called inner product spaces and if $V$ is an inner product space, then two vectors are declared to be orthogonal if $langle v,wrangle = 0$.



                  Finally, check that $langle p,qrangle = displaystyle int_0^1 p(t)q(t),dt$ is an inner product on $Bbb P_2$.







                  share|cite|improve this answer














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