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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.



Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).










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    On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
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  • If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.



Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).










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    On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 11:22












  • If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
    – Martin Sleziak
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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.



Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).










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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.



Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).







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    On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 11:22












  • If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
    – Martin Sleziak
    Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
















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    On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 11:22












  • If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
    – Martin Sleziak
    Jul 26 '11 at 11:57










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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22






On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22














If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57






If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.



If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.



In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).






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    @Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
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    @Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
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  • @Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
    – Brian M. Scott
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  • @Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.



Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.



Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.






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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.



If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.



In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).






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    @Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:39








  • 1




    @Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 5:24












  • @Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 8:03










  • @Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
    – Dusan
    Jul 27 '11 at 15:16


















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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.



If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.



In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).






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  • What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
    – Asaf Karagila
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:04






  • 1




    @Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:39








  • 1




    @Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 5:24












  • @Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 8:03










  • @Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
    – Dusan
    Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
















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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.



If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.



In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).






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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.



If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.



In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).







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  • What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
    – Asaf Karagila
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:04






  • 1




    @Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:39








  • 1




    @Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 5:24












  • @Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 8:03










  • @Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
    – Dusan
    Jul 27 '11 at 15:16




















  • What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
    – Asaf Karagila
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:04






  • 1




    @Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
    – t.b.
    Jul 26 '11 at 22:39








  • 1




    @Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 5:24












  • @Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Jul 27 '11 at 8:03










  • @Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
    – Dusan
    Jul 27 '11 at 15:16


















What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04




What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04




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@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39






@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for sequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39






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@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24






@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24














@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03




@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03












@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16






@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16













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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.



Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.



Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.






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  • Nice and quick. +1!
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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.



Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.



Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • Nice and quick. +1!
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Jul 28 '11 at 17:26














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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.



Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.



Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.






share|cite|improve this answer












It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.



Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.



Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.







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  • Nice and quick. +1!
    – Giuseppe Negro
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  • Nice and quick. +1!
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
















Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26




Nice and quick. +1!
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