Find noncontinuous $F : Bbb{R}^{Bbb{R}} to Bbb{R}$ such that if $f_n to f$ in $Bbb{R}^{Bbb{R}}$, then $F(f_n)...
I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.
Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).
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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.
Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).
general-topology
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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
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I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.
Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).
general-topology
I'm reading the book General Topology by S. Willard and I came across the following problem.
We have to find an example of a noncontinuous function $F:mathbb R^mathbb Rto mathbb R$ with the property that
whenever $f_nto f$ in $mathbb R^mathbb R$, then $F(f_n)to F(f).$ Here $mathbb R^mathbb R$ denote a space
with the product topology and $mathbb R$ is equipped with the usual topology. Please give
me some hint.
Edit (T.B.) The problem comes from section 10, specifically as a problem illustrating the points in (10.6).
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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57
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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.
If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.
In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google forsequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.
Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.
Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
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The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.
If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.
In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google forsequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
add a comment |
The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.
If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.
In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google forsequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
add a comment |
The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.
If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.
In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).
The more I look into this, the more I suspect that Willard slipped up here: it appears that the existence of such function depends on the existence of certain large cardinals and hence on one’s set theory. It is possible to find such a function from a subspace of $mathbb{R}^mathbb{R}$ to $mathbb{R}$; one subspace that works is $X = Sigma_0 cup Sigma_1$, where $$Sigma_0 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 0} mbox{ is countable}}$$ and $$Sigma_1 = {f in {0,1}^mathbb{R}:{x in mathbb{R}:f(x) = 1} mbox{ is countable}}.$$ It’s not hard to check that $Sigma_0$ and $Sigma_1$ are dense, sequentially closed subsets of $X$. Now just define $F:X to mathbb{R}$ by $F(f) = 0$ if $f in Sigma_0$ and $F(f) = 1$ if $f in Sigma_1$. If $langle f_n rangle_n to f in Sigma_i$ (where of course each $f_n in X$), there is some $n_0$ such that $f_n in Sigma_i$ for all $n ge n_0$, whence $F(f_n) = i = F(f)$ for all $n ge n_0$, and $langle F(f_n) rangle_n to F(f)$, so $F$ is sequentially continuous. However, $F^{-1}[(-1/2,1/2)] = Sigma_0$ is not open in $X$, so $F$ isn’t continuous.
If you want to try a substitute exercise based on the material in Section 10, find a sequentially continuous, non-continuous function from $mathbf{Omega}$ to $mathbb{R}$, i.e., a function $f:mathbf{Omega} to mathbb{R}$ such that $f$ is not continuous, but $langle f(x_n) rangle_n to f(x)$ in $mathbb{R}$ whenever $langle x_n rangle_n to x$ in $mathbf{Omega}$. Hint: This can be done with a function that is constant on the set ${x in mathbf{Omega}:omega_0 le x < omega_1}$.
In Willard’s notation $mathbfOmega$ denotes the set of ordinals ${alpha:1le alphaleomega_1}$ with the order topology (i.e. the sets $(gamma,omega_1]={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha>gamma}$, $[1,gamma)={alphainmathbfOmega: alpha<gamma}$ for $gammainmathbfOmega$ form a subbase).
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What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google forsequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
add a comment |
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google forsequential continuity product spaces
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
What sort of large cardinals you think need to be involved in the general solution, and how?
– Asaf Karagila♦
Jul 26 '11 at 22:04
1
1
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for
sequential continuity product spaces– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
@Asaf: I stumbled over similar things when I tried to find an answer to this question (submeasurable and measurable cardinals). See e.g. here (Balcar, Hušek, 2000) and here (Noble 1970). Google for
sequential continuity product spaces– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 22:39
1
1
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Asaf: A few high spots from what Theo and I have found: A cardinal $kappa$ is sequential if there is a sequentially continuous, non-continuous, real-valued function on the Cantor space $2^kappa$. Let $m_s,m_R$, and $m_2$ be the first sequential, real-valued measurable, and measurable cardinals. Then $m_sle m_R$, and if $m_s > 2^omega$ (e.g., under MA), then $m_s=m_2$. Moreover, every sequentially continuous function from a product of $<m_s$ separable metric spaces to a metric space is continuous.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 5:24
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Martin: Thanks very much. I added just a little extra clarification; that Willard starts at $1$ was implicit in your subbase, but it’s odd enough that I wanted to make it explicit.
– Brian M. Scott
Jul 27 '11 at 8:03
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
@Brian: Thank you very much for all the information. This example is enough to me.
– Dusan
Jul 27 '11 at 15:16
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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.
Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.
Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
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It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.
Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.
Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
add a comment |
It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.
Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.
Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.
It is not an answer, but this example may be funny.
Let $X$ be the subspace of $]0,1[^{]0,1[}$ consisting of measurable functions (with the product topology), and let $F : X rightarrow ]0,1[, f mapsto int f$.
Then $F$ is sequentially continuous by the Dominated Convergence Theorem, but nowhere continuous since it is surjective on every open subset.
answered Jul 27 '11 at 14:48
Auguste Hoang Duc
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Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
add a comment |
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
Nice and quick. +1!
– Giuseppe Negro
Jul 28 '11 at 17:26
add a comment |
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On a side note for those reading German: You may want to have a look at A. Tychonoff, Über einen Funktionenraum, Math. Ann. 111 (1) (1935), 772-776, where this space was first introduced. @Asaf: ...
– t.b.
Jul 26 '11 at 11:22
If your instution does not have subscription, the paper mentioned by Theo is freely available here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/?PPN=GDZPPN00227809X
– Martin Sleziak
Jul 26 '11 at 11:57