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If the sum of divisors is prime, how can I show that the number of divisors is also prime?
I've tried to use definitons, but I'm not getting anything.










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    Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
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    Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
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    @WillJagy think Mersenne!
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    Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
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    @LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
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If the sum of divisors is prime, how can I show that the number of divisors is also prime?
I've tried to use definitons, but I'm not getting anything.










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    Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 21 '18 at 4:58










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    Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
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    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 5:07










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    @WillJagy think Mersenne!
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
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    Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
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    – Uday Khanna
    Dec 21 '18 at 6:37










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    @LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
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    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 18:29
















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If the sum of divisors is prime, how can I show that the number of divisors is also prime?
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If the sum of divisors is prime, how can I show that the number of divisors is also prime?
I've tried to use definitons, but I'm not getting anything.







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    Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 21 '18 at 4:58










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    Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
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    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 5:07










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    @WillJagy think Mersenne!
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 21 '18 at 5:10










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    Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
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    – Uday Khanna
    Dec 21 '18 at 6:37










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    @LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
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    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 18:29




















  • $begingroup$
    Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 21 '18 at 4:58










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    Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
    $endgroup$
    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 5:07










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    @WillJagy think Mersenne!
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 21 '18 at 5:10










  • $begingroup$
    Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
    $endgroup$
    – Uday Khanna
    Dec 21 '18 at 6:37










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
    $endgroup$
    – Will Jagy
    Dec 21 '18 at 18:29


















$begingroup$
Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 21 '18 at 4:58




$begingroup$
Do you mean that "if $sigma(n)$, the sum of all divisors of $n$, is prime, then $d(n)$, the number of divisors of $n$, is prime"?
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 21 '18 at 4:58












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Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
$endgroup$
– Will Jagy
Dec 21 '18 at 5:07




$begingroup$
Do you have any examples of numbers $n$ such that $sigma(n)$ is prime? I can think of only one such $n.$
$endgroup$
– Will Jagy
Dec 21 '18 at 5:07












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@WillJagy think Mersenne!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 21 '18 at 5:10




$begingroup$
@WillJagy think Mersenne!
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 21 '18 at 5:10












$begingroup$
Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
$endgroup$
– Uday Khanna
Dec 21 '18 at 6:37




$begingroup$
Clearly the numbers with an odd no. of divisors are perfect squares. So we have to show if the sum of the divisors of a perfect square are prime then the no. of divisors is also prime.
$endgroup$
– Uday Khanna
Dec 21 '18 at 6:37












$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
$endgroup$
– Will Jagy
Dec 21 '18 at 18:29






$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown good, found first few 2 = 2 sigma 3 d 2 /// 4 = 2^2 sigma 7 d 3 /// 9 = 3^2 sigma 13 d 3 /// 16 = 2^4 sigma 31 d 5 /// 25 = 5^2 sigma 31 d 3 /// 64 = 2^6 sigma 127 d 7 /// 289 = 17^2 sigma 307 d 3 /// 729 = 3^6 sigma 1093 d 7
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– Will Jagy
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The sum of the divisiors of the number $$N=p_1^{a_1}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$ is $$(1+p_1+cdots +p_1^{a_1})cdots (1+p_n+cdots +p_n^{a_n})$$ All the factors are greater than $1$, so if $N$ has more than one prime factor, the sum of the divisors cannot be prime. Hence we can concentrate on the prime powers. For a prime power $p^n$ , the sum of divisors is $$frac{p^{n+1}-1}{p-1}$$ and the number of divisors is $n+1$. If $n+1$ is composite, let us say $n+1=ab$ with $a,b>1$ , then $p^a-1mid p^{n+1}-1$ giving the non-trivial factor $frac{p^a-1}{p-1}$. This completes the proof of the statement.






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    The sum of the divisiors of the number $$N=p_1^{a_1}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$ is $$(1+p_1+cdots +p_1^{a_1})cdots (1+p_n+cdots +p_n^{a_n})$$ All the factors are greater than $1$, so if $N$ has more than one prime factor, the sum of the divisors cannot be prime. Hence we can concentrate on the prime powers. For a prime power $p^n$ , the sum of divisors is $$frac{p^{n+1}-1}{p-1}$$ and the number of divisors is $n+1$. If $n+1$ is composite, let us say $n+1=ab$ with $a,b>1$ , then $p^a-1mid p^{n+1}-1$ giving the non-trivial factor $frac{p^a-1}{p-1}$. This completes the proof of the statement.






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        The sum of the divisiors of the number $$N=p_1^{a_1}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$ is $$(1+p_1+cdots +p_1^{a_1})cdots (1+p_n+cdots +p_n^{a_n})$$ All the factors are greater than $1$, so if $N$ has more than one prime factor, the sum of the divisors cannot be prime. Hence we can concentrate on the prime powers. For a prime power $p^n$ , the sum of divisors is $$frac{p^{n+1}-1}{p-1}$$ and the number of divisors is $n+1$. If $n+1$ is composite, let us say $n+1=ab$ with $a,b>1$ , then $p^a-1mid p^{n+1}-1$ giving the non-trivial factor $frac{p^a-1}{p-1}$. This completes the proof of the statement.






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        The sum of the divisiors of the number $$N=p_1^{a_1}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$ is $$(1+p_1+cdots +p_1^{a_1})cdots (1+p_n+cdots +p_n^{a_n})$$ All the factors are greater than $1$, so if $N$ has more than one prime factor, the sum of the divisors cannot be prime. Hence we can concentrate on the prime powers. For a prime power $p^n$ , the sum of divisors is $$frac{p^{n+1}-1}{p-1}$$ and the number of divisors is $n+1$. If $n+1$ is composite, let us say $n+1=ab$ with $a,b>1$ , then $p^a-1mid p^{n+1}-1$ giving the non-trivial factor $frac{p^a-1}{p-1}$. This completes the proof of the statement.







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