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Say I have the following permutation



$$sigma ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&8&4&5&6&7end{pmatrix}}$$



which consists to let unchanged some first elements from $1$ to $k$ and to apply a circular shift on the elements ${k+1, ldots, n}$.



What is the name for such transformation?



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    The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10












  • Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:19












  • Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:20








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    Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:23








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    You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:31
















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Say I have the following permutation



$$sigma ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&8&4&5&6&7end{pmatrix}}$$



which consists to let unchanged some first elements from $1$ to $k$ and to apply a circular shift on the elements ${k+1, ldots, n}$.



What is the name for such transformation?



Thank you










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  • 2




    The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10












  • Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:19












  • Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:20








  • 1




    Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:23








  • 1




    You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:31














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Say I have the following permutation



$$sigma ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&8&4&5&6&7end{pmatrix}}$$



which consists to let unchanged some first elements from $1$ to $k$ and to apply a circular shift on the elements ${k+1, ldots, n}$.



What is the name for such transformation?



Thank you










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Say I have the following permutation



$$sigma ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&8&4&5&6&7end{pmatrix}}$$



which consists to let unchanged some first elements from $1$ to $k$ and to apply a circular shift on the elements ${k+1, ldots, n}$.



What is the name for such transformation?



Thank you







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    The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10












  • Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:19












  • Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:20








  • 1




    Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:23








  • 1




    You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:31














  • 2




    The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10












  • Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:19












  • Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:20








  • 1




    Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:23








  • 1




    You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:31








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The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:10






The name is "a $5$-cycle in $S_8$", namely $sigma=(48765)$.
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:10














Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:19






Thank you @DietrichBurde Does this (n-k)-cycle let unchanged the first $k$ elements?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:19














Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:20






Yes, it keeps $1$,$2$, $3$ fixed (unchanged). Have a look at the cycle notation for permutations.
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:20






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Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:23






Have a look at the cycle notation: $(45)$ means that $4$ goes to $5$ and $5$ goes to $4$. Then $(48765)$ means that $4mapsto 8mapsto 7mapsto 6mapsto 5mapsto 4mapstocdots $
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 2 '18 at 19:23






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You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Dec 2 '18 at 19:31




You should read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_permutation and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Cycle_notation
– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Dec 2 '18 at 19:31










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$1, 2, 3$ each map to themselves. $1to 1$. Period. $2to 2.$ Period. $3to 3.$ Period. We can represent this as $(1)(2)(3)$, but typically this is not customary.



So we can start with $4$:



$4 to 8$, then



$8 to 7$, then



$7to 6$,



then $6to 5$, and finally,



$5 to 4$, completing the five cycle (bringing us back to the starting number for the cycle, $4$:



That gives us the permutation $sigma = (48765)$. This can also be written as $$sigma = (1)(2)(3)(48765) = (48765)$$





To get the cycle you are looking for, you'll need the following permutation:



$alpha ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&5&6&7&8&4end{pmatrix}} = (45678)$



The name for this transformation is merely "permutation" $alpha$ on the set $S$ of $8$ numbers, specifically, both $alpha, sigma in mathbb S_8$, the group of permutations on $S$.



If we were talking about vertices of an octagon, numbered 1-8, then $(12345678)$ could be described as a rotation of the octagon.






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  • Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:29










  • Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:37










  • Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:42










  • Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:46










  • Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:49











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$1, 2, 3$ each map to themselves. $1to 1$. Period. $2to 2.$ Period. $3to 3.$ Period. We can represent this as $(1)(2)(3)$, but typically this is not customary.



So we can start with $4$:



$4 to 8$, then



$8 to 7$, then



$7to 6$,



then $6to 5$, and finally,



$5 to 4$, completing the five cycle (bringing us back to the starting number for the cycle, $4$:



That gives us the permutation $sigma = (48765)$. This can also be written as $$sigma = (1)(2)(3)(48765) = (48765)$$





To get the cycle you are looking for, you'll need the following permutation:



$alpha ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&5&6&7&8&4end{pmatrix}} = (45678)$



The name for this transformation is merely "permutation" $alpha$ on the set $S$ of $8$ numbers, specifically, both $alpha, sigma in mathbb S_8$, the group of permutations on $S$.



If we were talking about vertices of an octagon, numbered 1-8, then $(12345678)$ could be described as a rotation of the octagon.






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  • Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:29










  • Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:37










  • Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:42










  • Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:46










  • Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
















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$1, 2, 3$ each map to themselves. $1to 1$. Period. $2to 2.$ Period. $3to 3.$ Period. We can represent this as $(1)(2)(3)$, but typically this is not customary.



So we can start with $4$:



$4 to 8$, then



$8 to 7$, then



$7to 6$,



then $6to 5$, and finally,



$5 to 4$, completing the five cycle (bringing us back to the starting number for the cycle, $4$:



That gives us the permutation $sigma = (48765)$. This can also be written as $$sigma = (1)(2)(3)(48765) = (48765)$$





To get the cycle you are looking for, you'll need the following permutation:



$alpha ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&5&6&7&8&4end{pmatrix}} = (45678)$



The name for this transformation is merely "permutation" $alpha$ on the set $S$ of $8$ numbers, specifically, both $alpha, sigma in mathbb S_8$, the group of permutations on $S$.



If we were talking about vertices of an octagon, numbered 1-8, then $(12345678)$ could be described as a rotation of the octagon.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:29










  • Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:37










  • Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:42










  • Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:46










  • Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:49














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$1, 2, 3$ each map to themselves. $1to 1$. Period. $2to 2.$ Period. $3to 3.$ Period. We can represent this as $(1)(2)(3)$, but typically this is not customary.



So we can start with $4$:



$4 to 8$, then



$8 to 7$, then



$7to 6$,



then $6to 5$, and finally,



$5 to 4$, completing the five cycle (bringing us back to the starting number for the cycle, $4$:



That gives us the permutation $sigma = (48765)$. This can also be written as $$sigma = (1)(2)(3)(48765) = (48765)$$





To get the cycle you are looking for, you'll need the following permutation:



$alpha ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&5&6&7&8&4end{pmatrix}} = (45678)$



The name for this transformation is merely "permutation" $alpha$ on the set $S$ of $8$ numbers, specifically, both $alpha, sigma in mathbb S_8$, the group of permutations on $S$.



If we were talking about vertices of an octagon, numbered 1-8, then $(12345678)$ could be described as a rotation of the octagon.






share|cite|improve this answer














$1, 2, 3$ each map to themselves. $1to 1$. Period. $2to 2.$ Period. $3to 3.$ Period. We can represent this as $(1)(2)(3)$, but typically this is not customary.



So we can start with $4$:



$4 to 8$, then



$8 to 7$, then



$7to 6$,



then $6to 5$, and finally,



$5 to 4$, completing the five cycle (bringing us back to the starting number for the cycle, $4$:



That gives us the permutation $sigma = (48765)$. This can also be written as $$sigma = (1)(2)(3)(48765) = (48765)$$





To get the cycle you are looking for, you'll need the following permutation:



$alpha ={begin{pmatrix}1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\1&2&3&5&6&7&8&4end{pmatrix}} = (45678)$



The name for this transformation is merely "permutation" $alpha$ on the set $S$ of $8$ numbers, specifically, both $alpha, sigma in mathbb S_8$, the group of permutations on $S$.



If we were talking about vertices of an octagon, numbered 1-8, then $(12345678)$ could be described as a rotation of the octagon.







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  • Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:29










  • Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:37










  • Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:42










  • Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:46










  • Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:49


















  • Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:29










  • Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:37










  • Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:42










  • Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
    – amWhy
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:46










  • Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
    – Adam54
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
















Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:29




Thanks @amWhy As I have written to Dietrich, I think I am reffering to another kind of cycle.
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:29












Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
– amWhy
Dec 2 '18 at 19:37




Top number goes to bottom number in each column.
– amWhy
Dec 2 '18 at 19:37












Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:42




Thank you. So writing left shift is straightforward, but for writing a right shift we need to read from top to bottom?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:42












Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
– amWhy
Dec 2 '18 at 19:46




Yes, the numbers in the top row represent the 8 possible numbers to permute. Where each of those numbers goes is written immediately below the number, in the second row.
– amWhy
Dec 2 '18 at 19:46












Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49




Thanks again. So, if I have a sequence of 8 unknown numbers, but I know that when I will have these numbers, I will right shift the 5 last numbers. How can I write this function, terminologically?
– Adam54
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49


















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