Are Monotone functions Borel Measurable?
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Could you guide me how to prove that any monotone function from $Rrightarrow R$ is Borel measurable?
Should we separate the functions into continuous and non-continuous? How to prove for not continuous points?
Thanks for your help
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Could you guide me how to prove that any monotone function from $Rrightarrow R$ is Borel measurable?
Should we separate the functions into continuous and non-continuous? How to prove for not continuous points?
Thanks for your help
measure-theory
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30
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Could you guide me how to prove that any monotone function from $Rrightarrow R$ is Borel measurable?
Should we separate the functions into continuous and non-continuous? How to prove for not continuous points?
Thanks for your help
measure-theory
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Could you guide me how to prove that any monotone function from $Rrightarrow R$ is Borel measurable?
Should we separate the functions into continuous and non-continuous? How to prove for not continuous points?
Thanks for your help
measure-theory
measure-theory
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
1
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
1
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30
add a comment |
1
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
1
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
1
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30
1
1
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
1
1
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
1
1
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30
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Hint: If $f$ is monotone, then, for every real number $x$, the set $$f^{-1}((-infty,x])={tmid f(t)leqslant x}$$ is either $varnothing$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ or $(-infty,z)$ or $(-infty,z]$ or $(z,+infty)$ or $[z,+infty)$ for some real number $z$.
To show this, assume for example that $f$ is nondecreasing and that $u$ is in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$, then show that, for every $vleqslant u$, $v$ is also in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$.
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Hint: If $f$ is monotone, then, for every real number $x$, the set $$f^{-1}((-infty,x])={tmid f(t)leqslant x}$$ is either $varnothing$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ or $(-infty,z)$ or $(-infty,z]$ or $(z,+infty)$ or $[z,+infty)$ for some real number $z$.
To show this, assume for example that $f$ is nondecreasing and that $u$ is in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$, then show that, for every $vleqslant u$, $v$ is also in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$.
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Hint: If $f$ is monotone, then, for every real number $x$, the set $$f^{-1}((-infty,x])={tmid f(t)leqslant x}$$ is either $varnothing$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ or $(-infty,z)$ or $(-infty,z]$ or $(z,+infty)$ or $[z,+infty)$ for some real number $z$.
To show this, assume for example that $f$ is nondecreasing and that $u$ is in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$, then show that, for every $vleqslant u$, $v$ is also in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$.
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Hint: If $f$ is monotone, then, for every real number $x$, the set $$f^{-1}((-infty,x])={tmid f(t)leqslant x}$$ is either $varnothing$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ or $(-infty,z)$ or $(-infty,z]$ or $(z,+infty)$ or $[z,+infty)$ for some real number $z$.
To show this, assume for example that $f$ is nondecreasing and that $u$ is in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$, then show that, for every $vleqslant u$, $v$ is also in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$.
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Hint: If $f$ is monotone, then, for every real number $x$, the set $$f^{-1}((-infty,x])={tmid f(t)leqslant x}$$ is either $varnothing$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ or $(-infty,z)$ or $(-infty,z]$ or $(z,+infty)$ or $[z,+infty)$ for some real number $z$.
To show this, assume for example that $f$ is nondecreasing and that $u$ is in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$, then show that, for every $vleqslant u$, $v$ is also in $f^{-1}((-infty,x])$.
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I'd try to apply the definition directly. That is, try to show that sets of the form ${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$ are Borel.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:22
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Hi @GiuseppeNegro, I actually have hard time understanding this method. I always use the basic definition of looking at pre-image. Could you explain this a little more. How we show/use this?
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:23
1
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By definition, a function $mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel-measurable when the preimages of open subsets of $mathbb{R}$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$. Do you agree with this definition?
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:24
1
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If you agree, then you can convince yourself that, actually, it is enough to check that the preimages of half-lines are Borel. More precisely, $Fcolon mathbb{R}to mathbb{R}$ is Borel measurable if and only if for every $t in mathbb{R}$ the following set is Borel: $${xin mathbb{R} | F(x)ge t}$$ (Cfr. Rudin, Real and complex analysis, 3rd ed., Theorem 1.12)
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– Giuseppe Negro
Dec 6 '12 at 17:28
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Yes, it completely matches my definition of $forall B in text{Borel Set} {w: f(w)in B} in F text{ where F is also Borel Set}$
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– user48405
Dec 6 '12 at 17:30