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Consider the plant:



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Let X be the stabilizing solution of the Riccati equation:



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where enter image description here.

Define the LQR gain by enter image description here.



The transfer matrix enter image description here has a left spectral factorization enter image description here,

where WL is given by



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  1. If I know the $W_L$, how to derive the $W_L^{-1}$, (bottom one)


  2. (Basic question) Why does the Riccati equation is $(A, B_2, C_1)$ not $(A, B_1, C_1)$ or
    $(A, B_2, C_2)$?











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  • Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
    – JimmyK4542
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  • I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:42










  • What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
    – obareey
    Aug 17 '14 at 14:36










  • More complete. Thanks!
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 17 '14 at 16:00















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Ask two questions from a paper (2012 ACC):



Consider the plant:



enter image description here



Let X be the stabilizing solution of the Riccati equation:



enter image description here



where enter image description here.

Define the LQR gain by enter image description here.



The transfer matrix enter image description here has a left spectral factorization enter image description here,

where WL is given by



enter image description here



Questions:




  1. If I know the $W_L$, how to derive the $W_L^{-1}$, (bottom one)


  2. (Basic question) Why does the Riccati equation is $(A, B_2, C_1)$ not $(A, B_1, C_1)$ or
    $(A, B_2, C_2)$?











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  • Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
    – JimmyK4542
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:35










  • I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:42










  • What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
    – obareey
    Aug 17 '14 at 14:36










  • More complete. Thanks!
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 17 '14 at 16:00













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Ask two questions from a paper (2012 ACC):



Consider the plant:



enter image description here



Let X be the stabilizing solution of the Riccati equation:



enter image description here



where enter image description here.

Define the LQR gain by enter image description here.



The transfer matrix enter image description here has a left spectral factorization enter image description here,

where WL is given by



enter image description here



Questions:




  1. If I know the $W_L$, how to derive the $W_L^{-1}$, (bottom one)


  2. (Basic question) Why does the Riccati equation is $(A, B_2, C_1)$ not $(A, B_1, C_1)$ or
    $(A, B_2, C_2)$?











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Ask two questions from a paper (2012 ACC):



Consider the plant:



enter image description here



Let X be the stabilizing solution of the Riccati equation:



enter image description here



where enter image description here.

Define the LQR gain by enter image description here.



The transfer matrix enter image description here has a left spectral factorization enter image description here,

where WL is given by



enter image description here



Questions:




  1. If I know the $W_L$, how to derive the $W_L^{-1}$, (bottom one)


  2. (Basic question) Why does the Riccati equation is $(A, B_2, C_1)$ not $(A, B_1, C_1)$ or
    $(A, B_2, C_2)$?








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  • Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
    – JimmyK4542
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:35










  • I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:42










  • What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
    – obareey
    Aug 17 '14 at 14:36










  • More complete. Thanks!
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 17 '14 at 16:00


















  • Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
    – JimmyK4542
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:35










  • I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 15 '14 at 3:42










  • What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
    – obareey
    Aug 17 '14 at 14:36










  • More complete. Thanks!
    – sleeve chen
    Aug 17 '14 at 16:00
















Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
– JimmyK4542
Aug 15 '14 at 3:35




Multiplying $W_L W_L^{-1}$ doesn't seem to yield the identity matrix, unless we know stuff about the matrices $A, B_2, K$. Can you provide more context?
– JimmyK4542
Aug 15 '14 at 3:35












I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
– sleeve chen
Aug 15 '14 at 3:42




I think the representation is not really a matrix; it is like C*inv(sI-A)B + D
– sleeve chen
Aug 15 '14 at 3:42












What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
– obareey
Aug 17 '14 at 14:36




What is $X$? I believe it is a solution to some matrix equation.
– obareey
Aug 17 '14 at 14:36












More complete. Thanks!
– sleeve chen
Aug 17 '14 at 16:00




More complete. Thanks!
– sleeve chen
Aug 17 '14 at 16:00










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First question is about inverting a state space system that represents the dynamics from $u$ to $y$ such that the representation is from $y$ to $u$.



If you write down the equations explicitly:



$$
begin{align}
dot x &= Ax+Bu\
y &= Cx+Du
end{align}
$$

Now assuming $D$ is invertible, we get



$$
begin{align}
dot x &= Ax+B(-D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y)\
u &= -D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y
end{align}
$$

So the state space from $y$ to $u$ is given by the realization
$$
G^{-1}(s) = begin{bmatrix}A-BD^{-1}C &BD^{-1}\-CD^{-1}&D^{-1}end{bmatrix}
$$



Then you can see the similarity between this inverse and $W_L$.



For the second question, in Linear Quadratic Cost function you would like to add the cost of the input to your cost function. In this formulation, often $B_1$ is the disturbance input to the system and $B_2$ models the input matrix.



Hence you want the second input appearing on the performance channel.






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    First question is about inverting a state space system that represents the dynamics from $u$ to $y$ such that the representation is from $y$ to $u$.



    If you write down the equations explicitly:



    $$
    begin{align}
    dot x &= Ax+Bu\
    y &= Cx+Du
    end{align}
    $$

    Now assuming $D$ is invertible, we get



    $$
    begin{align}
    dot x &= Ax+B(-D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y)\
    u &= -D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y
    end{align}
    $$

    So the state space from $y$ to $u$ is given by the realization
    $$
    G^{-1}(s) = begin{bmatrix}A-BD^{-1}C &BD^{-1}\-CD^{-1}&D^{-1}end{bmatrix}
    $$



    Then you can see the similarity between this inverse and $W_L$.



    For the second question, in Linear Quadratic Cost function you would like to add the cost of the input to your cost function. In this formulation, often $B_1$ is the disturbance input to the system and $B_2$ models the input matrix.



    Hence you want the second input appearing on the performance channel.






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      First question is about inverting a state space system that represents the dynamics from $u$ to $y$ such that the representation is from $y$ to $u$.



      If you write down the equations explicitly:



      $$
      begin{align}
      dot x &= Ax+Bu\
      y &= Cx+Du
      end{align}
      $$

      Now assuming $D$ is invertible, we get



      $$
      begin{align}
      dot x &= Ax+B(-D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y)\
      u &= -D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y
      end{align}
      $$

      So the state space from $y$ to $u$ is given by the realization
      $$
      G^{-1}(s) = begin{bmatrix}A-BD^{-1}C &BD^{-1}\-CD^{-1}&D^{-1}end{bmatrix}
      $$



      Then you can see the similarity between this inverse and $W_L$.



      For the second question, in Linear Quadratic Cost function you would like to add the cost of the input to your cost function. In this formulation, often $B_1$ is the disturbance input to the system and $B_2$ models the input matrix.



      Hence you want the second input appearing on the performance channel.






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        First question is about inverting a state space system that represents the dynamics from $u$ to $y$ such that the representation is from $y$ to $u$.



        If you write down the equations explicitly:



        $$
        begin{align}
        dot x &= Ax+Bu\
        y &= Cx+Du
        end{align}
        $$

        Now assuming $D$ is invertible, we get



        $$
        begin{align}
        dot x &= Ax+B(-D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y)\
        u &= -D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y
        end{align}
        $$

        So the state space from $y$ to $u$ is given by the realization
        $$
        G^{-1}(s) = begin{bmatrix}A-BD^{-1}C &BD^{-1}\-CD^{-1}&D^{-1}end{bmatrix}
        $$



        Then you can see the similarity between this inverse and $W_L$.



        For the second question, in Linear Quadratic Cost function you would like to add the cost of the input to your cost function. In this formulation, often $B_1$ is the disturbance input to the system and $B_2$ models the input matrix.



        Hence you want the second input appearing on the performance channel.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        First question is about inverting a state space system that represents the dynamics from $u$ to $y$ such that the representation is from $y$ to $u$.



        If you write down the equations explicitly:



        $$
        begin{align}
        dot x &= Ax+Bu\
        y &= Cx+Du
        end{align}
        $$

        Now assuming $D$ is invertible, we get



        $$
        begin{align}
        dot x &= Ax+B(-D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y)\
        u &= -D^{-1}Cx + D^{-1}y
        end{align}
        $$

        So the state space from $y$ to $u$ is given by the realization
        $$
        G^{-1}(s) = begin{bmatrix}A-BD^{-1}C &BD^{-1}\-CD^{-1}&D^{-1}end{bmatrix}
        $$



        Then you can see the similarity between this inverse and $W_L$.



        For the second question, in Linear Quadratic Cost function you would like to add the cost of the input to your cost function. In this formulation, often $B_1$ is the disturbance input to the system and $B_2$ models the input matrix.



        Hence you want the second input appearing on the performance channel.







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