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I have a mathematical problem that I am trying to solve but are not sure how to do it. It is quite complex but I will try to describe the exact problem. The last 5 lines in this description of the problem is what the question of the problem boils down to.



Link to image that shows all the statistics in excel needed for below problem:
Image of the statistics



Description of mathematical problem:
1. On average we want to invest 100 dollar in Total through all betlevels. This can mean that we sometimes invest 150 in total and sometimes only 50. But on average this will be about 100 over time (Law of Large Numbers)




  1. A person will make bets on a table. EACH bet have a sequence of 1-4 bets (which are the betlevels 1-4). The trick is that sometimes the sequence will only be betlevel 1 sometimes it will be 1 and 2, sometimes 1,2,3 and sometimes all 4. We never know beforehand! As we can see 1372 of Total 3430 bets will Stop on level 1. 1029 of the bets will Reach betlevel 2 and will then bet on BOTH level 1 and level 2. This is how the logic goes down to betlevel 4.


  2. Now comes the problem. What is the OPTIMAL way(I stress OPTIMAL) to invest through the 4 betlevels. I have made 2 theoretical examples(see above image) where I take as an example for level 2: (33.33 x 1029 bets x 0.23% = 64.02 profit)



Example 1) On average bet 33.33 on level 2,3,4 which gives: 182.91 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



Example 2) On average bet 33.33 on level 2. 36.33 on level 3. 30.33 on level 4 which gives: 185.07 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



This shows that example 2 is a more OPTIMAL way to invest.
Remember we want in our Equation on average invest 100 through betlevel 1-4.



The problem boils down to this Question:
We need to invest a sum on RANDOM on EACH betlevel using some kind of equation using the statistics to reach the OPTIMAL Total Profit Result over time. (Law of Large Numbers). My question is how this equation RANDOM function/equation will look like and how/what dollar amount we will invest on each level? (I think the green fields in the above image are the important information but feel free to use the other information too)



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    I have a mathematical problem that I am trying to solve but are not sure how to do it. It is quite complex but I will try to describe the exact problem. The last 5 lines in this description of the problem is what the question of the problem boils down to.



    Link to image that shows all the statistics in excel needed for below problem:
    Image of the statistics



    Description of mathematical problem:
    1. On average we want to invest 100 dollar in Total through all betlevels. This can mean that we sometimes invest 150 in total and sometimes only 50. But on average this will be about 100 over time (Law of Large Numbers)




    1. A person will make bets on a table. EACH bet have a sequence of 1-4 bets (which are the betlevels 1-4). The trick is that sometimes the sequence will only be betlevel 1 sometimes it will be 1 and 2, sometimes 1,2,3 and sometimes all 4. We never know beforehand! As we can see 1372 of Total 3430 bets will Stop on level 1. 1029 of the bets will Reach betlevel 2 and will then bet on BOTH level 1 and level 2. This is how the logic goes down to betlevel 4.


    2. Now comes the problem. What is the OPTIMAL way(I stress OPTIMAL) to invest through the 4 betlevels. I have made 2 theoretical examples(see above image) where I take as an example for level 2: (33.33 x 1029 bets x 0.23% = 64.02 profit)



    Example 1) On average bet 33.33 on level 2,3,4 which gives: 182.91 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



    Example 2) On average bet 33.33 on level 2. 36.33 on level 3. 30.33 on level 4 which gives: 185.07 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



    This shows that example 2 is a more OPTIMAL way to invest.
    Remember we want in our Equation on average invest 100 through betlevel 1-4.



    The problem boils down to this Question:
    We need to invest a sum on RANDOM on EACH betlevel using some kind of equation using the statistics to reach the OPTIMAL Total Profit Result over time. (Law of Large Numbers). My question is how this equation RANDOM function/equation will look like and how/what dollar amount we will invest on each level? (I think the green fields in the above image are the important information but feel free to use the other information too)



    Many Thanks!










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      I have a mathematical problem that I am trying to solve but are not sure how to do it. It is quite complex but I will try to describe the exact problem. The last 5 lines in this description of the problem is what the question of the problem boils down to.



      Link to image that shows all the statistics in excel needed for below problem:
      Image of the statistics



      Description of mathematical problem:
      1. On average we want to invest 100 dollar in Total through all betlevels. This can mean that we sometimes invest 150 in total and sometimes only 50. But on average this will be about 100 over time (Law of Large Numbers)




      1. A person will make bets on a table. EACH bet have a sequence of 1-4 bets (which are the betlevels 1-4). The trick is that sometimes the sequence will only be betlevel 1 sometimes it will be 1 and 2, sometimes 1,2,3 and sometimes all 4. We never know beforehand! As we can see 1372 of Total 3430 bets will Stop on level 1. 1029 of the bets will Reach betlevel 2 and will then bet on BOTH level 1 and level 2. This is how the logic goes down to betlevel 4.


      2. Now comes the problem. What is the OPTIMAL way(I stress OPTIMAL) to invest through the 4 betlevels. I have made 2 theoretical examples(see above image) where I take as an example for level 2: (33.33 x 1029 bets x 0.23% = 64.02 profit)



      Example 1) On average bet 33.33 on level 2,3,4 which gives: 182.91 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



      Example 2) On average bet 33.33 on level 2. 36.33 on level 3. 30.33 on level 4 which gives: 185.07 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



      This shows that example 2 is a more OPTIMAL way to invest.
      Remember we want in our Equation on average invest 100 through betlevel 1-4.



      The problem boils down to this Question:
      We need to invest a sum on RANDOM on EACH betlevel using some kind of equation using the statistics to reach the OPTIMAL Total Profit Result over time. (Law of Large Numbers). My question is how this equation RANDOM function/equation will look like and how/what dollar amount we will invest on each level? (I think the green fields in the above image are the important information but feel free to use the other information too)



      Many Thanks!










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      I have a mathematical problem that I am trying to solve but are not sure how to do it. It is quite complex but I will try to describe the exact problem. The last 5 lines in this description of the problem is what the question of the problem boils down to.



      Link to image that shows all the statistics in excel needed for below problem:
      Image of the statistics



      Description of mathematical problem:
      1. On average we want to invest 100 dollar in Total through all betlevels. This can mean that we sometimes invest 150 in total and sometimes only 50. But on average this will be about 100 over time (Law of Large Numbers)




      1. A person will make bets on a table. EACH bet have a sequence of 1-4 bets (which are the betlevels 1-4). The trick is that sometimes the sequence will only be betlevel 1 sometimes it will be 1 and 2, sometimes 1,2,3 and sometimes all 4. We never know beforehand! As we can see 1372 of Total 3430 bets will Stop on level 1. 1029 of the bets will Reach betlevel 2 and will then bet on BOTH level 1 and level 2. This is how the logic goes down to betlevel 4.


      2. Now comes the problem. What is the OPTIMAL way(I stress OPTIMAL) to invest through the 4 betlevels. I have made 2 theoretical examples(see above image) where I take as an example for level 2: (33.33 x 1029 bets x 0.23% = 64.02 profit)



      Example 1) On average bet 33.33 on level 2,3,4 which gives: 182.91 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



      Example 2) On average bet 33.33 on level 2. 36.33 on level 3. 30.33 on level 4 which gives: 185.07 in Total Profit. (Level 1 invest 0 as this levels shows -0.15%)



      This shows that example 2 is a more OPTIMAL way to invest.
      Remember we want in our Equation on average invest 100 through betlevel 1-4.



      The problem boils down to this Question:
      We need to invest a sum on RANDOM on EACH betlevel using some kind of equation using the statistics to reach the OPTIMAL Total Profit Result over time. (Law of Large Numbers). My question is how this equation RANDOM function/equation will look like and how/what dollar amount we will invest on each level? (I think the green fields in the above image are the important information but feel free to use the other information too)



      Many Thanks!







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          It is better for me to put a much more simple example. I will begin with my effort for a solution(like Jeopardy). After that comes all info and statistics needed in order to find a solution.



          The approach I have used (using the statistics)
          Those 2 lines are not completely correct and is the complete solution I am looking for:
          For Betlevel 1: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 100d or 59.23d
          For Betlevel 2: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 59.23d or 40.77d






          That gives me those results:
          A) Original as seen in below description is a total of 34800d with 100d invested for each bet which is my goal to strive for with this mathematical problem
          B) My approach/effort to a mathematical solution gives 31424d with 88d invested for each bet wich is about 90% accurate.




          My question simply is what I am doing wrong. How will I do this to be as close as possible to the original result 34800d ?



          See image or the statistics below that I work with



                                Avg%/Bet                Nr Bets REACHING               Avg% *                    Accumulated%

                                                                  this Level                                                                   this Level



          Level 1:        0.23%                      100000 - (83.33%)                  23000%                27600%

          Level 2:       0.95%                      20000 - (16.67%)                     19000%                19000%
                                                                 Total Bets: 120000                                                 Total%: 46600%


          Information/statistics for mathematical problem:

          1. We will do a Total of 120000 bets

          2. 100000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 1

          3. 20000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 2

          (This means that those 20000 bets has been on betlevel 1)

          4. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 1: 0.23% * 100000 = 23000%

          5. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 2: 0.95% * 20000 = 19000%

          6. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 1 : 23000% + (0.23 * 20000) = 27600%

          7. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 2 : 19000%

          8. Total % Accumulated: 46600%

          9. Level1 stands for: 27600%/46600% = 59.23% of all profit

          10. Level2 stands for: 19000%/46600% = 40.77% of all profit


          Now is the Goal is to put 100d in each bet that can consists of 1 -OR- 2 levels of bets like this:


          (Goal is to put 100$ in each bet. Line 1 reach level 1. Line 2,3 is a bet that reach level 2)

          Level 1: 100000 * 100d * 0.0023 = 23000d
          Level 1: 20000 * 50d * 0.0023 = 2300d

          Level 2: 20000 * 50d * 0.0095 = 9500d


                                                                       Total: 34800d



          The mathematical problem is now this:

          We never know if the bet we start with at level 1 will continue to LEVEL 2 or stop at LEVEL 1. This is the WHOLE problem. So we must now bet an unknown amount on LEVEL 1 and LEVEL 2. The goal is on average bet as close to 100d as possible for each bet.






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            It is better for me to put a much more simple example. I will begin with my effort for a solution(like Jeopardy). After that comes all info and statistics needed in order to find a solution.



            The approach I have used (using the statistics)
            Those 2 lines are not completely correct and is the complete solution I am looking for:
            For Betlevel 1: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 100d or 59.23d
            For Betlevel 2: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 59.23d or 40.77d






            That gives me those results:
            A) Original as seen in below description is a total of 34800d with 100d invested for each bet which is my goal to strive for with this mathematical problem
            B) My approach/effort to a mathematical solution gives 31424d with 88d invested for each bet wich is about 90% accurate.




            My question simply is what I am doing wrong. How will I do this to be as close as possible to the original result 34800d ?



            See image or the statistics below that I work with



                                  Avg%/Bet                Nr Bets REACHING               Avg% *                    Accumulated%

                                                                    this Level                                                                   this Level



            Level 1:        0.23%                      100000 - (83.33%)                  23000%                27600%

            Level 2:       0.95%                      20000 - (16.67%)                     19000%                19000%
                                                                   Total Bets: 120000                                                 Total%: 46600%


            Information/statistics for mathematical problem:

            1. We will do a Total of 120000 bets

            2. 100000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 1

            3. 20000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 2

            (This means that those 20000 bets has been on betlevel 1)

            4. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 1: 0.23% * 100000 = 23000%

            5. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 2: 0.95% * 20000 = 19000%

            6. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 1 : 23000% + (0.23 * 20000) = 27600%

            7. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 2 : 19000%

            8. Total % Accumulated: 46600%

            9. Level1 stands for: 27600%/46600% = 59.23% of all profit

            10. Level2 stands for: 19000%/46600% = 40.77% of all profit


            Now is the Goal is to put 100d in each bet that can consists of 1 -OR- 2 levels of bets like this:


            (Goal is to put 100$ in each bet. Line 1 reach level 1. Line 2,3 is a bet that reach level 2)

            Level 1: 100000 * 100d * 0.0023 = 23000d
            Level 1: 20000 * 50d * 0.0023 = 2300d

            Level 2: 20000 * 50d * 0.0095 = 9500d


                                                                         Total: 34800d



            The mathematical problem is now this:

            We never know if the bet we start with at level 1 will continue to LEVEL 2 or stop at LEVEL 1. This is the WHOLE problem. So we must now bet an unknown amount on LEVEL 1 and LEVEL 2. The goal is on average bet as close to 100d as possible for each bet.






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              It is better for me to put a much more simple example. I will begin with my effort for a solution(like Jeopardy). After that comes all info and statistics needed in order to find a solution.



              The approach I have used (using the statistics)
              Those 2 lines are not completely correct and is the complete solution I am looking for:
              For Betlevel 1: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 100d or 59.23d
              For Betlevel 2: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 59.23d or 40.77d






              That gives me those results:
              A) Original as seen in below description is a total of 34800d with 100d invested for each bet which is my goal to strive for with this mathematical problem
              B) My approach/effort to a mathematical solution gives 31424d with 88d invested for each bet wich is about 90% accurate.




              My question simply is what I am doing wrong. How will I do this to be as close as possible to the original result 34800d ?



              See image or the statistics below that I work with



                                    Avg%/Bet                Nr Bets REACHING               Avg% *                    Accumulated%

                                                                      this Level                                                                   this Level



              Level 1:        0.23%                      100000 - (83.33%)                  23000%                27600%

              Level 2:       0.95%                      20000 - (16.67%)                     19000%                19000%
                                                                     Total Bets: 120000                                                 Total%: 46600%


              Information/statistics for mathematical problem:

              1. We will do a Total of 120000 bets

              2. 100000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 1

              3. 20000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 2

              (This means that those 20000 bets has been on betlevel 1)

              4. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 1: 0.23% * 100000 = 23000%

              5. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 2: 0.95% * 20000 = 19000%

              6. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 1 : 23000% + (0.23 * 20000) = 27600%

              7. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 2 : 19000%

              8. Total % Accumulated: 46600%

              9. Level1 stands for: 27600%/46600% = 59.23% of all profit

              10. Level2 stands for: 19000%/46600% = 40.77% of all profit


              Now is the Goal is to put 100d in each bet that can consists of 1 -OR- 2 levels of bets like this:


              (Goal is to put 100$ in each bet. Line 1 reach level 1. Line 2,3 is a bet that reach level 2)

              Level 1: 100000 * 100d * 0.0023 = 23000d
              Level 1: 20000 * 50d * 0.0023 = 2300d

              Level 2: 20000 * 50d * 0.0095 = 9500d


                                                                           Total: 34800d



              The mathematical problem is now this:

              We never know if the bet we start with at level 1 will continue to LEVEL 2 or stop at LEVEL 1. This is the WHOLE problem. So we must now bet an unknown amount on LEVEL 1 and LEVEL 2. The goal is on average bet as close to 100d as possible for each bet.






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                It is better for me to put a much more simple example. I will begin with my effort for a solution(like Jeopardy). After that comes all info and statistics needed in order to find a solution.



                The approach I have used (using the statistics)
                Those 2 lines are not completely correct and is the complete solution I am looking for:
                For Betlevel 1: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 100d or 59.23d
                For Betlevel 2: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 59.23d or 40.77d






                That gives me those results:
                A) Original as seen in below description is a total of 34800d with 100d invested for each bet which is my goal to strive for with this mathematical problem
                B) My approach/effort to a mathematical solution gives 31424d with 88d invested for each bet wich is about 90% accurate.




                My question simply is what I am doing wrong. How will I do this to be as close as possible to the original result 34800d ?



                See image or the statistics below that I work with



                                      Avg%/Bet                Nr Bets REACHING               Avg% *                    Accumulated%

                                                                        this Level                                                                   this Level



                Level 1:        0.23%                      100000 - (83.33%)                  23000%                27600%

                Level 2:       0.95%                      20000 - (16.67%)                     19000%                19000%
                                                                       Total Bets: 120000                                                 Total%: 46600%


                Information/statistics for mathematical problem:

                1. We will do a Total of 120000 bets

                2. 100000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 1

                3. 20000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 2

                (This means that those 20000 bets has been on betlevel 1)

                4. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 1: 0.23% * 100000 = 23000%

                5. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 2: 0.95% * 20000 = 19000%

                6. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 1 : 23000% + (0.23 * 20000) = 27600%

                7. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 2 : 19000%

                8. Total % Accumulated: 46600%

                9. Level1 stands for: 27600%/46600% = 59.23% of all profit

                10. Level2 stands for: 19000%/46600% = 40.77% of all profit


                Now is the Goal is to put 100d in each bet that can consists of 1 -OR- 2 levels of bets like this:


                (Goal is to put 100$ in each bet. Line 1 reach level 1. Line 2,3 is a bet that reach level 2)

                Level 1: 100000 * 100d * 0.0023 = 23000d
                Level 1: 20000 * 50d * 0.0023 = 2300d

                Level 2: 20000 * 50d * 0.0095 = 9500d


                                                                             Total: 34800d



                The mathematical problem is now this:

                We never know if the bet we start with at level 1 will continue to LEVEL 2 or stop at LEVEL 1. This is the WHOLE problem. So we must now bet an unknown amount on LEVEL 1 and LEVEL 2. The goal is on average bet as close to 100d as possible for each bet.






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                It is better for me to put a much more simple example. I will begin with my effort for a solution(like Jeopardy). After that comes all info and statistics needed in order to find a solution.



                The approach I have used (using the statistics)
                Those 2 lines are not completely correct and is the complete solution I am looking for:
                For Betlevel 1: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 100d or 59.23d
                For Betlevel 2: Random generator with 50% chance bet: 59.23d or 40.77d






                That gives me those results:
                A) Original as seen in below description is a total of 34800d with 100d invested for each bet which is my goal to strive for with this mathematical problem
                B) My approach/effort to a mathematical solution gives 31424d with 88d invested for each bet wich is about 90% accurate.




                My question simply is what I am doing wrong. How will I do this to be as close as possible to the original result 34800d ?



                See image or the statistics below that I work with



                                      Avg%/Bet                Nr Bets REACHING               Avg% *                    Accumulated%

                                                                        this Level                                                                   this Level



                Level 1:        0.23%                      100000 - (83.33%)                  23000%                27600%

                Level 2:       0.95%                      20000 - (16.67%)                     19000%                19000%
                                                                       Total Bets: 120000                                                 Total%: 46600%


                Information/statistics for mathematical problem:

                1. We will do a Total of 120000 bets

                2. 100000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 1

                3. 20000 of the bets will reach/stop on betlevel 2

                (This means that those 20000 bets has been on betlevel 1)

                4. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 1: 0.23% * 100000 = 23000%

                5. Total % for bets that stopped on Level 2: 0.95% * 20000 = 19000%

                6. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 1 : 23000% + (0.23 * 20000) = 27600%

                7. Total % for bets that HAS BEEN on Level 2 : 19000%

                8. Total % Accumulated: 46600%

                9. Level1 stands for: 27600%/46600% = 59.23% of all profit

                10. Level2 stands for: 19000%/46600% = 40.77% of all profit


                Now is the Goal is to put 100d in each bet that can consists of 1 -OR- 2 levels of bets like this:


                (Goal is to put 100$ in each bet. Line 1 reach level 1. Line 2,3 is a bet that reach level 2)

                Level 1: 100000 * 100d * 0.0023 = 23000d
                Level 1: 20000 * 50d * 0.0023 = 2300d

                Level 2: 20000 * 50d * 0.0095 = 9500d


                                                                             Total: 34800d



                The mathematical problem is now this:

                We never know if the bet we start with at level 1 will continue to LEVEL 2 or stop at LEVEL 1. This is the WHOLE problem. So we must now bet an unknown amount on LEVEL 1 and LEVEL 2. The goal is on average bet as close to 100d as possible for each bet.







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