Let $xinBbb R$. Then there exists a unique $winBbb R$ such that $x+w=0$












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Let $x,yinBbb R$. We define addition operation $(+)$ on $Bbb R$ by $$x+ y:=inf{r+ smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



Then there exists a unique $winBbb R$ such that $x+w=0$.






Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





My attempt:




Lemma:





  1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R$.




    • $x+y=y+x$


    • $(x+y)+z=x+(y+z)$


    • $x+0=x$




  2. If $rinBbb Q$ and $r>0$, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<r$.


  3. For every $xin Bbb R$ and $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$, there exist $r,sinBbb Q$ such that $r<xle s$ and $s-rledfrac{1}{n}$.





It is obvious that $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



Existence



Let $w=inf{-smid sinBbb Q,s<x}$.



First, we prove that $x+w=inf{r-s mid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.




  • By definition, $x+w=inf{r+pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


  • Substituting $-p$ for $p$, we get $x+w=inf{r-pmid r,-pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}=$ $inf{r-pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}$.


  • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<-p iff pinBbb Q$ and $-p>-s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$.


  • Hence $x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,s<x}=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.



Second, we prove that $x+w=0$.




  • We have $s<x<r implies r-s>0 implies x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r} ge 0$.


  • Assume the contrary that $x+w>0$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $0<p<x+w$. By Lemma 2, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<p$. By Lemma 3, there exist $r_0,s_0inBbb Q$ such that $r_0<x< s_0$ and $s_0-r_0ledfrac{1}{n}<p<x+w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $x+w=0$.



Uniqueness



Assume that $x+w=0$ and $x+w'=0$. By Lemma 1, $w=w+0=w+(x+w')=w+(w'+x)=(w+w')+x=(w'+w)+x=w'+(w+x)=w'+(x+w)=w'+0=w'.$



Hence such $w$ is unique.










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    Thank you @Shaun, that's my sloppy. I should have said Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.
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    Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
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    Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
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    Hi @DavidG, my textbook introduces the set of real numbers immediately right before the section of ordered field.
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    Jan 4 at 9:24
















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Let $x,yinBbb R$. We define addition operation $(+)$ on $Bbb R$ by $$x+ y:=inf{r+ smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



Then there exists a unique $winBbb R$ such that $x+w=0$.






Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





My attempt:




Lemma:





  1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R$.




    • $x+y=y+x$


    • $(x+y)+z=x+(y+z)$


    • $x+0=x$




  2. If $rinBbb Q$ and $r>0$, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<r$.


  3. For every $xin Bbb R$ and $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$, there exist $r,sinBbb Q$ such that $r<xle s$ and $s-rledfrac{1}{n}$.





It is obvious that $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



Existence



Let $w=inf{-smid sinBbb Q,s<x}$.



First, we prove that $x+w=inf{r-s mid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.




  • By definition, $x+w=inf{r+pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


  • Substituting $-p$ for $p$, we get $x+w=inf{r-pmid r,-pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}=$ $inf{r-pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}$.


  • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<-p iff pinBbb Q$ and $-p>-s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$.


  • Hence $x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,s<x}=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.



Second, we prove that $x+w=0$.




  • We have $s<x<r implies r-s>0 implies x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r} ge 0$.


  • Assume the contrary that $x+w>0$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $0<p<x+w$. By Lemma 2, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<p$. By Lemma 3, there exist $r_0,s_0inBbb Q$ such that $r_0<x< s_0$ and $s_0-r_0ledfrac{1}{n}<p<x+w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $x+w=0$.



Uniqueness



Assume that $x+w=0$ and $x+w'=0$. By Lemma 1, $w=w+0=w+(x+w')=w+(w'+x)=(w+w')+x=(w'+w)+x=w'+(w+x)=w'+(x+w)=w'+0=w'.$



Hence such $w$ is unique.










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    Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
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    – freakish
    Jan 4 at 9:02












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    Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
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    Hi @DavidG, my textbook introduces the set of real numbers immediately right before the section of ordered field.
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Let $x,yinBbb R$. We define addition operation $(+)$ on $Bbb R$ by $$x+ y:=inf{r+ smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



Then there exists a unique $winBbb R$ such that $x+w=0$.






Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





My attempt:




Lemma:





  1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R$.




    • $x+y=y+x$


    • $(x+y)+z=x+(y+z)$


    • $x+0=x$




  2. If $rinBbb Q$ and $r>0$, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<r$.


  3. For every $xin Bbb R$ and $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$, there exist $r,sinBbb Q$ such that $r<xle s$ and $s-rledfrac{1}{n}$.





It is obvious that $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



Existence



Let $w=inf{-smid sinBbb Q,s<x}$.



First, we prove that $x+w=inf{r-s mid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.




  • By definition, $x+w=inf{r+pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


  • Substituting $-p$ for $p$, we get $x+w=inf{r-pmid r,-pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}=$ $inf{r-pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}$.


  • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<-p iff pinBbb Q$ and $-p>-s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$.


  • Hence $x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,s<x}=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.



Second, we prove that $x+w=0$.




  • We have $s<x<r implies r-s>0 implies x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r} ge 0$.


  • Assume the contrary that $x+w>0$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $0<p<x+w$. By Lemma 2, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<p$. By Lemma 3, there exist $r_0,s_0inBbb Q$ such that $r_0<x< s_0$ and $s_0-r_0ledfrac{1}{n}<p<x+w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $x+w=0$.



Uniqueness



Assume that $x+w=0$ and $x+w'=0$. By Lemma 1, $w=w+0=w+(x+w')=w+(w'+x)=(w+w')+x=(w'+w)+x=w'+(w+x)=w'+(x+w)=w'+0=w'.$



Hence such $w$ is unique.










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Let $x,yinBbb R$. We define addition operation $(+)$ on $Bbb R$ by $$x+ y:=inf{r+ smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



Then there exists a unique $winBbb R$ such that $x+w=0$.






Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





My attempt:




Lemma:





  1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R$.




    • $x+y=y+x$


    • $(x+y)+z=x+(y+z)$


    • $x+0=x$




  2. If $rinBbb Q$ and $r>0$, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<r$.


  3. For every $xin Bbb R$ and $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$, there exist $r,sinBbb Q$ such that $r<xle s$ and $s-rledfrac{1}{n}$.





It is obvious that $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



Existence



Let $w=inf{-smid sinBbb Q,s<x}$.



First, we prove that $x+w=inf{r-s mid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.




  • By definition, $x+w=inf{r+pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


  • Substituting $-p$ for $p$, we get $x+w=inf{r-pmid r,-pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}=$ $inf{r-pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<-p}$.


  • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<-p iff pinBbb Q$ and $-p>-s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $s<x$.


  • Hence $x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,s<x}=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r}$.



Second, we prove that $x+w=0$.




  • We have $s<x<r implies r-s>0 implies x+w=inf{r-smid r,sinBbb Q,s<x<r} ge 0$.


  • Assume the contrary that $x+w>0$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $0<p<x+w$. By Lemma 2, there exists $ninBbb Nsetminus{0}$ such that $dfrac{1}{n}<p$. By Lemma 3, there exist $r_0,s_0inBbb Q$ such that $r_0<x< s_0$ and $s_0-r_0ledfrac{1}{n}<p<x+w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $x+w=0$.



Uniqueness



Assume that $x+w=0$ and $x+w'=0$. By Lemma 1, $w=w+0=w+(x+w')=w+(w'+x)=(w+w')+x=(w'+w)+x=w'+(w+x)=w'+(x+w)=w'+0=w'.$



Hence such $w$ is unique.







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    Thank you @Shaun, that's my sloppy. I should have said Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.
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    Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
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    – freakish
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    Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
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    – user150203
    Jan 4 at 9:23










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    Hi @DavidG, my textbook introduces the set of real numbers immediately right before the section of ordered field.
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    "It is obvious that" is no proof.
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    – Shaun
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    Thank you @Shaun, that's my sloppy. I should have said Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Le Anh Dung
    Jan 4 at 7:43












  • $begingroup$
    Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
    $endgroup$
    – freakish
    Jan 4 at 9:02












  • $begingroup$
    Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
    $endgroup$
    – user150203
    Jan 4 at 9:23










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    Hi @DavidG, my textbook introduces the set of real numbers immediately right before the section of ordered field.
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    – Le Anh Dung
    Jan 4 at 9:24
















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"It is obvious that" is no proof.
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– Shaun
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"It is obvious that" is no proof.
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Thank you @Shaun, that's my sloppy. I should have said Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.
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Jan 4 at 7:43






$begingroup$
Thank you @Shaun, that's my sloppy. I should have said Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.
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Jan 4 at 7:43














$begingroup$
Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
$endgroup$
– freakish
Jan 4 at 9:02






$begingroup$
Note that your "$+$" coincides with the usual addition on $mathbb{R}$. Once you prove that the statement becomes trivially true. And this follows from continuity of the usual addition and the fact that rationals are dense in reals.
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– freakish
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Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
$endgroup$
– user150203
Jan 4 at 9:23




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Out of curiosity, what (if anything) limits your reasoning to working with the set of Real Numbers? as in could this be applied to an ordered Field?
$endgroup$
– user150203
Jan 4 at 9:23












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Hi @DavidG, my textbook introduces the set of real numbers immediately right before the section of ordered field.
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– Le Anh Dung
Jan 4 at 9:24




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By a similar reasoning, I would like to present a proof of the below theorem.






Let $Bbb R^+={xinBbb R mid x>0}$ and $x,yinBbb R^+$. We define multiplication operation $(cdot)$ on $Bbb R^+$ by $$xcdot y:=inf{rcdot smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



Then there exists a unique $winBbb R^+$ such that $xcdot w=1$






Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





My attempt:




Lemma:





  1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R^+$.




    • $xcdot y=ycdot x$


    • $xcdot (y+z)=xcdot y+xcdot z$


    • $(xcdot y)cdot z=xcdot (ycdot z)$


    • $xcdot 1=x$




  2. For every $x,kinBbb R$ such that $0<x,1<k$. There exists $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<k$.





Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



Existence



Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$. Let $w=inf{1/smid sinBbb Q,0<s<x}$.



We prove that $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.




  • By definition, $xcdot w=inf{rcdot pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


  • We substitute $1/p$ for $p$ and get $xcdot w=inf{rcdot (1/p)mid r,1/pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$ $=inf{r/pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$.


  • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<1/p$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $1/p>1/s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $0<p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$.


  • Hence $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,0<s<x}=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.



Second, we prove $xcdot w=1$.




  • We have $0<s<r implies 1<r/s implies xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r} ge 1$.


  • Assume the contrary that $xcdot w>1$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $1<p<xcdot w$. By Lemma 2, there exist $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<p<xcdot w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $xcdot w=1$.



Uniqueness



Assume that $xcdot w=xcdot w'=1$. By Lemma 1, $w=wcdot 1=wcdot (xcdot w')=wcdot (w'cdot x)=$ $(wcdot w')cdot x=(w'cdot w)cdot x=w'cdot (wcdot x)=w'cdot (xcdot w)=w'cdot 1=w'.$ Hence such $w$ is unique.






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    By a similar reasoning, I would like to present a proof of the below theorem.






    Let $Bbb R^+={xinBbb R mid x>0}$ and $x,yinBbb R^+$. We define multiplication operation $(cdot)$ on $Bbb R^+$ by $$xcdot y:=inf{rcdot smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



    Then there exists a unique $winBbb R^+$ such that $xcdot w=1$






    Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





    My attempt:




    Lemma:





    1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R^+$.




      • $xcdot y=ycdot x$


      • $xcdot (y+z)=xcdot y+xcdot z$


      • $(xcdot y)cdot z=xcdot (ycdot z)$


      • $xcdot 1=x$




    2. For every $x,kinBbb R$ such that $0<x,1<k$. There exists $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<k$.





    Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



    Existence



    Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$. Let $w=inf{1/smid sinBbb Q,0<s<x}$.



    We prove that $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.




    • By definition, $xcdot w=inf{rcdot pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


    • We substitute $1/p$ for $p$ and get $xcdot w=inf{rcdot (1/p)mid r,1/pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$ $=inf{r/pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$.


    • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<1/p$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $1/p>1/s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $0<p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$.


    • Hence $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,0<s<x}=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.



    Second, we prove $xcdot w=1$.




    • We have $0<s<r implies 1<r/s implies xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r} ge 1$.


    • Assume the contrary that $xcdot w>1$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $1<p<xcdot w$. By Lemma 2, there exist $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<p<xcdot w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $xcdot w=1$.



    Uniqueness



    Assume that $xcdot w=xcdot w'=1$. By Lemma 1, $w=wcdot 1=wcdot (xcdot w')=wcdot (w'cdot x)=$ $(wcdot w')cdot x=(w'cdot w)cdot x=w'cdot (wcdot x)=w'cdot (xcdot w)=w'cdot 1=w'.$ Hence such $w$ is unique.






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      By a similar reasoning, I would like to present a proof of the below theorem.






      Let $Bbb R^+={xinBbb R mid x>0}$ and $x,yinBbb R^+$. We define multiplication operation $(cdot)$ on $Bbb R^+$ by $$xcdot y:=inf{rcdot smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



      Then there exists a unique $winBbb R^+$ such that $xcdot w=1$






      Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





      My attempt:




      Lemma:





      1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R^+$.




        • $xcdot y=ycdot x$


        • $xcdot (y+z)=xcdot y+xcdot z$


        • $(xcdot y)cdot z=xcdot (ycdot z)$


        • $xcdot 1=x$




      2. For every $x,kinBbb R$ such that $0<x,1<k$. There exists $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<k$.





      Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



      Existence



      Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$. Let $w=inf{1/smid sinBbb Q,0<s<x}$.



      We prove that $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.




      • By definition, $xcdot w=inf{rcdot pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


      • We substitute $1/p$ for $p$ and get $xcdot w=inf{rcdot (1/p)mid r,1/pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$ $=inf{r/pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$.


      • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<1/p$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $1/p>1/s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $0<p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$.


      • Hence $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,0<s<x}=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.



      Second, we prove $xcdot w=1$.




      • We have $0<s<r implies 1<r/s implies xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r} ge 1$.


      • Assume the contrary that $xcdot w>1$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $1<p<xcdot w$. By Lemma 2, there exist $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<p<xcdot w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $xcdot w=1$.



      Uniqueness



      Assume that $xcdot w=xcdot w'=1$. By Lemma 1, $w=wcdot 1=wcdot (xcdot w')=wcdot (w'cdot x)=$ $(wcdot w')cdot x=(w'cdot w)cdot x=w'cdot (wcdot x)=w'cdot (xcdot w)=w'cdot 1=w'.$ Hence such $w$ is unique.






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        By a similar reasoning, I would like to present a proof of the below theorem.






        Let $Bbb R^+={xinBbb R mid x>0}$ and $x,yinBbb R^+$. We define multiplication operation $(cdot)$ on $Bbb R^+$ by $$xcdot y:=inf{rcdot smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



        Then there exists a unique $winBbb R^+$ such that $xcdot w=1$






        Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





        My attempt:




        Lemma:





        1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R^+$.




          • $xcdot y=ycdot x$


          • $xcdot (y+z)=xcdot y+xcdot z$


          • $(xcdot y)cdot z=xcdot (ycdot z)$


          • $xcdot 1=x$




        2. For every $x,kinBbb R$ such that $0<x,1<k$. There exists $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<k$.





        Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



        Existence



        Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$. Let $w=inf{1/smid sinBbb Q,0<s<x}$.



        We prove that $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.




        • By definition, $xcdot w=inf{rcdot pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


        • We substitute $1/p$ for $p$ and get $xcdot w=inf{rcdot (1/p)mid r,1/pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$ $=inf{r/pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$.


        • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<1/p$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $1/p>1/s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $0<p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$.


        • Hence $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,0<s<x}=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.



        Second, we prove $xcdot w=1$.




        • We have $0<s<r implies 1<r/s implies xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r} ge 1$.


        • Assume the contrary that $xcdot w>1$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $1<p<xcdot w$. By Lemma 2, there exist $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<p<xcdot w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $xcdot w=1$.



        Uniqueness



        Assume that $xcdot w=xcdot w'=1$. By Lemma 1, $w=wcdot 1=wcdot (xcdot w')=wcdot (w'cdot x)=$ $(wcdot w')cdot x=(w'cdot w)cdot x=w'cdot (wcdot x)=w'cdot (xcdot w)=w'cdot 1=w'.$ Hence such $w$ is unique.






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        By a similar reasoning, I would like to present a proof of the below theorem.






        Let $Bbb R^+={xinBbb R mid x>0}$ and $x,yinBbb R^+$. We define multiplication operation $(cdot)$ on $Bbb R^+$ by $$xcdot y:=inf{rcdot smid r,sinBbb Q text{ and } x<r text{ and } y<s}$$



        Then there exists a unique $winBbb R^+$ such that $xcdot w=1$






        Does my attempt look fine or contain logical flaws/gaps? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!





        My attempt:




        Lemma:





        1. Let $x,y,zinBbb R^+$.




          • $xcdot y=ycdot x$


          • $xcdot (y+z)=xcdot y+xcdot z$


          • $(xcdot y)cdot z=xcdot (ycdot z)$


          • $xcdot 1=x$




        2. For every $x,kinBbb R$ such that $0<x,1<k$. There exists $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<k$.





        Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$.



        Existence



        Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, $x=inf {r mid rinBbb Q,x<r}$. Let $w=inf{1/smid sinBbb Q,0<s<x}$.



        We prove that $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.




        • By definition, $xcdot w=inf{rcdot pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<p}$.


        • We substitute $1/p$ for $p$ and get $xcdot w=inf{rcdot (1/p)mid r,1/pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$ $=inf{r/pmid r,pinBbb Q,x<r,w<1/p}$.


        • We have $pinBbb Q$ and $w<1/p$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $1/p>1/s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff pinBbb Q$ and $0<p<s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$ $iff p=s$ for some $sinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x$.


        • Hence $xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,x<r,0<s<x}=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r}$.



        Second, we prove $xcdot w=1$.




        • We have $0<s<r implies 1<r/s implies xcdot w=inf{r/smid r,sinBbb Q,0<s<x<r} ge 1$.


        • Assume the contrary that $xcdot w>1$. Since $Bbb Q$ is dense in $Bbb R$, there exists $pinBbb Q$ such that $1<p<xcdot w$. By Lemma 2, there exist $s,rinBbb Q$ such that $0<s<x<r$ and $r/s<p<xcdot w$. This is clearly a contradiction. Hence $xcdot w=1$.



        Uniqueness



        Assume that $xcdot w=xcdot w'=1$. By Lemma 1, $w=wcdot 1=wcdot (xcdot w')=wcdot (w'cdot x)=$ $(wcdot w')cdot x=(w'cdot w)cdot x=w'cdot (wcdot x)=w'cdot (xcdot w)=w'cdot 1=w'.$ Hence such $w$ is unique.







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