Are the restrictions of constructible functions on the level set of smooth map still constructible functions?












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This question is in relation with the definition of Euler-Integral transforms, page 147 of Michael Robinson book "Topological Signal Processing".




Definition: Euler characteristic and Constructible function



The euler characteristic $chi$ is a valuation from a cell complex $X_f$ to $mathbb{Z}$ defined by:
$$ chi(X_f) = sum_{c in X_f}^{}{-1^{dim(c)}}$$




${bf Remark:} $The definition of $chi$ makes it possible to define it for an arbitraty collection of cell. For instance, a sub-collection $X_f'$ of cells in $X_f$ is not always a cell complex, but we will admit that $chi(X_f')$ is well-defined. Even though the author doesn't make it clear in the book, this assumption seems to be largely used.




An integered valued constructible function is a function on a topological space $f:X mapsto mathbb{Z}$ such that there exists a non-unique cell-complex $X_f$ for which:



a) There is an homeomorphism $h : X mapsto X_f$



b) The function $f circ h$ is constant on each cell of $X_f$




This can be seen as a generalization of piecewise constant function on topological spaces having a cell-complex skeleton.





Problem statement



Given a topological space $X$ and a smooth map $P:X mapsto mathbb{R}$. We assume that $X$ is such that there is a homeomorphism $h$ between $X$ and a cell complex $X_f$ . We define the level sets of $P$:
$$ X_c ={ x in X, P_x(x,bullet) = s }$$



We define a constructible function f with the same underlying cell-structure (i.e, $fcirc h$ is piecewise constant on the cells of $X_f$).



The question is: Is $f_{vert X_c}$ still constructible for the homeomorphism $h$?



The author seems to consider so. But I am disturbed by the fact that the level set themselves can very well fail to be sub-cell complex, or even collections of cells.





For instance, if $Y$ is the ball centered in O in $mathbb{R}^2$ with the cell-complex structure made of one $0$-cell, one $1$-cell and one $2$-cell. Let's have $P : y mapsto | y |$, and $f$ is the indicatrice function of the ball.



The level set of $P$ for $s$ are the intersection between a circle of radius s and $Y$. Three cases can occur:




  1. For $s=0$, the level set is the single point (0,0).

  2. For $0<s<{max}$ Y_s is a closed circle in the interior of $Y$.

  3. For $s = s_{max}$ the level set is the frontier made of the $1$-cell attached to the $0$-cell.


It seems that apart for the third case, the level set are neither cells or a collection of cells. Which results in my inability to understand how can the author use the function $f_{vert Y_s}$ as a constructible function (computing its euler integral for instance).



I am wondering if I missed something involved by $h$ being a homeomorphism, or by $P$ being smooth, as I don't seem to use any of these assumptions. I would appreciate some clues about what the author is really trying to do (for those who read the book) or about the constructability of $f_{vert X_c}$.










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    $begingroup$


    This question is in relation with the definition of Euler-Integral transforms, page 147 of Michael Robinson book "Topological Signal Processing".




    Definition: Euler characteristic and Constructible function



    The euler characteristic $chi$ is a valuation from a cell complex $X_f$ to $mathbb{Z}$ defined by:
    $$ chi(X_f) = sum_{c in X_f}^{}{-1^{dim(c)}}$$




    ${bf Remark:} $The definition of $chi$ makes it possible to define it for an arbitraty collection of cell. For instance, a sub-collection $X_f'$ of cells in $X_f$ is not always a cell complex, but we will admit that $chi(X_f')$ is well-defined. Even though the author doesn't make it clear in the book, this assumption seems to be largely used.




    An integered valued constructible function is a function on a topological space $f:X mapsto mathbb{Z}$ such that there exists a non-unique cell-complex $X_f$ for which:



    a) There is an homeomorphism $h : X mapsto X_f$



    b) The function $f circ h$ is constant on each cell of $X_f$




    This can be seen as a generalization of piecewise constant function on topological spaces having a cell-complex skeleton.





    Problem statement



    Given a topological space $X$ and a smooth map $P:X mapsto mathbb{R}$. We assume that $X$ is such that there is a homeomorphism $h$ between $X$ and a cell complex $X_f$ . We define the level sets of $P$:
    $$ X_c ={ x in X, P_x(x,bullet) = s }$$



    We define a constructible function f with the same underlying cell-structure (i.e, $fcirc h$ is piecewise constant on the cells of $X_f$).



    The question is: Is $f_{vert X_c}$ still constructible for the homeomorphism $h$?



    The author seems to consider so. But I am disturbed by the fact that the level set themselves can very well fail to be sub-cell complex, or even collections of cells.





    For instance, if $Y$ is the ball centered in O in $mathbb{R}^2$ with the cell-complex structure made of one $0$-cell, one $1$-cell and one $2$-cell. Let's have $P : y mapsto | y |$, and $f$ is the indicatrice function of the ball.



    The level set of $P$ for $s$ are the intersection between a circle of radius s and $Y$. Three cases can occur:




    1. For $s=0$, the level set is the single point (0,0).

    2. For $0<s<{max}$ Y_s is a closed circle in the interior of $Y$.

    3. For $s = s_{max}$ the level set is the frontier made of the $1$-cell attached to the $0$-cell.


    It seems that apart for the third case, the level set are neither cells or a collection of cells. Which results in my inability to understand how can the author use the function $f_{vert Y_s}$ as a constructible function (computing its euler integral for instance).



    I am wondering if I missed something involved by $h$ being a homeomorphism, or by $P$ being smooth, as I don't seem to use any of these assumptions. I would appreciate some clues about what the author is really trying to do (for those who read the book) or about the constructability of $f_{vert X_c}$.










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      $begingroup$


      This question is in relation with the definition of Euler-Integral transforms, page 147 of Michael Robinson book "Topological Signal Processing".




      Definition: Euler characteristic and Constructible function



      The euler characteristic $chi$ is a valuation from a cell complex $X_f$ to $mathbb{Z}$ defined by:
      $$ chi(X_f) = sum_{c in X_f}^{}{-1^{dim(c)}}$$




      ${bf Remark:} $The definition of $chi$ makes it possible to define it for an arbitraty collection of cell. For instance, a sub-collection $X_f'$ of cells in $X_f$ is not always a cell complex, but we will admit that $chi(X_f')$ is well-defined. Even though the author doesn't make it clear in the book, this assumption seems to be largely used.




      An integered valued constructible function is a function on a topological space $f:X mapsto mathbb{Z}$ such that there exists a non-unique cell-complex $X_f$ for which:



      a) There is an homeomorphism $h : X mapsto X_f$



      b) The function $f circ h$ is constant on each cell of $X_f$




      This can be seen as a generalization of piecewise constant function on topological spaces having a cell-complex skeleton.





      Problem statement



      Given a topological space $X$ and a smooth map $P:X mapsto mathbb{R}$. We assume that $X$ is such that there is a homeomorphism $h$ between $X$ and a cell complex $X_f$ . We define the level sets of $P$:
      $$ X_c ={ x in X, P_x(x,bullet) = s }$$



      We define a constructible function f with the same underlying cell-structure (i.e, $fcirc h$ is piecewise constant on the cells of $X_f$).



      The question is: Is $f_{vert X_c}$ still constructible for the homeomorphism $h$?



      The author seems to consider so. But I am disturbed by the fact that the level set themselves can very well fail to be sub-cell complex, or even collections of cells.





      For instance, if $Y$ is the ball centered in O in $mathbb{R}^2$ with the cell-complex structure made of one $0$-cell, one $1$-cell and one $2$-cell. Let's have $P : y mapsto | y |$, and $f$ is the indicatrice function of the ball.



      The level set of $P$ for $s$ are the intersection between a circle of radius s and $Y$. Three cases can occur:




      1. For $s=0$, the level set is the single point (0,0).

      2. For $0<s<{max}$ Y_s is a closed circle in the interior of $Y$.

      3. For $s = s_{max}$ the level set is the frontier made of the $1$-cell attached to the $0$-cell.


      It seems that apart for the third case, the level set are neither cells or a collection of cells. Which results in my inability to understand how can the author use the function $f_{vert Y_s}$ as a constructible function (computing its euler integral for instance).



      I am wondering if I missed something involved by $h$ being a homeomorphism, or by $P$ being smooth, as I don't seem to use any of these assumptions. I would appreciate some clues about what the author is really trying to do (for those who read the book) or about the constructability of $f_{vert X_c}$.










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      This question is in relation with the definition of Euler-Integral transforms, page 147 of Michael Robinson book "Topological Signal Processing".




      Definition: Euler characteristic and Constructible function



      The euler characteristic $chi$ is a valuation from a cell complex $X_f$ to $mathbb{Z}$ defined by:
      $$ chi(X_f) = sum_{c in X_f}^{}{-1^{dim(c)}}$$




      ${bf Remark:} $The definition of $chi$ makes it possible to define it for an arbitraty collection of cell. For instance, a sub-collection $X_f'$ of cells in $X_f$ is not always a cell complex, but we will admit that $chi(X_f')$ is well-defined. Even though the author doesn't make it clear in the book, this assumption seems to be largely used.




      An integered valued constructible function is a function on a topological space $f:X mapsto mathbb{Z}$ such that there exists a non-unique cell-complex $X_f$ for which:



      a) There is an homeomorphism $h : X mapsto X_f$



      b) The function $f circ h$ is constant on each cell of $X_f$




      This can be seen as a generalization of piecewise constant function on topological spaces having a cell-complex skeleton.





      Problem statement



      Given a topological space $X$ and a smooth map $P:X mapsto mathbb{R}$. We assume that $X$ is such that there is a homeomorphism $h$ between $X$ and a cell complex $X_f$ . We define the level sets of $P$:
      $$ X_c ={ x in X, P_x(x,bullet) = s }$$



      We define a constructible function f with the same underlying cell-structure (i.e, $fcirc h$ is piecewise constant on the cells of $X_f$).



      The question is: Is $f_{vert X_c}$ still constructible for the homeomorphism $h$?



      The author seems to consider so. But I am disturbed by the fact that the level set themselves can very well fail to be sub-cell complex, or even collections of cells.





      For instance, if $Y$ is the ball centered in O in $mathbb{R}^2$ with the cell-complex structure made of one $0$-cell, one $1$-cell and one $2$-cell. Let's have $P : y mapsto | y |$, and $f$ is the indicatrice function of the ball.



      The level set of $P$ for $s$ are the intersection between a circle of radius s and $Y$. Three cases can occur:




      1. For $s=0$, the level set is the single point (0,0).

      2. For $0<s<{max}$ Y_s is a closed circle in the interior of $Y$.

      3. For $s = s_{max}$ the level set is the frontier made of the $1$-cell attached to the $0$-cell.


      It seems that apart for the third case, the level set are neither cells or a collection of cells. Which results in my inability to understand how can the author use the function $f_{vert Y_s}$ as a constructible function (computing its euler integral for instance).



      I am wondering if I missed something involved by $h$ being a homeomorphism, or by $P$ being smooth, as I don't seem to use any of these assumptions. I would appreciate some clues about what the author is really trying to do (for those who read the book) or about the constructability of $f_{vert X_c}$.







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