Number of relations on a set of $n$ elements [closed]
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http://mathonline.wikidot.com/the-number-of-distinct-relations-on-a-finite-set
From the link above I'm having trouble understanding how from $n^2$ ordered pairs which are either true or false there are a total of $ {2^{n^2}} $, would it not be $2n$?
Also, can someone explain the subset part of the definition, say I have a set ${a,b,c}$, would that mean ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is also a relation? Or is are the subsets only the pairs of elements of ${a,b,c}$?
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http://mathonline.wikidot.com/the-number-of-distinct-relations-on-a-finite-set
From the link above I'm having trouble understanding how from $n^2$ ordered pairs which are either true or false there are a total of $ {2^{n^2}} $, would it not be $2n$?
Also, can someone explain the subset part of the definition, say I have a set ${a,b,c}$, would that mean ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is also a relation? Or is are the subsets only the pairs of elements of ${a,b,c}$?
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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http://mathonline.wikidot.com/the-number-of-distinct-relations-on-a-finite-set
From the link above I'm having trouble understanding how from $n^2$ ordered pairs which are either true or false there are a total of $ {2^{n^2}} $, would it not be $2n$?
Also, can someone explain the subset part of the definition, say I have a set ${a,b,c}$, would that mean ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is also a relation? Or is are the subsets only the pairs of elements of ${a,b,c}$?
combinatorics elementary-set-theory relations
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http://mathonline.wikidot.com/the-number-of-distinct-relations-on-a-finite-set
From the link above I'm having trouble understanding how from $n^2$ ordered pairs which are either true or false there are a total of $ {2^{n^2}} $, would it not be $2n$?
Also, can someone explain the subset part of the definition, say I have a set ${a,b,c}$, would that mean ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is also a relation? Or is are the subsets only the pairs of elements of ${a,b,c}$?
combinatorics elementary-set-theory relations
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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– Mark Bennet
Dec 31 '18 at 22:50
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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– Mark Bennet
Dec 31 '18 at 22:50
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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– Mark Bennet
Dec 31 '18 at 22:50
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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Dec 31 '18 at 22:50
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No, it is correct. Every relation is a subset of $Xtimes X$ which has power $n^2$. But the number of subsets in a set with $k$ elements is $2^k$, so in our case $2^{n^2}$.
Yes, the set ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is a subset of $Xtimes X$ and thus a relation (which is symmetric).
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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No, it is correct. Every relation is a subset of $Xtimes X$ which has power $n^2$. But the number of subsets in a set with $k$ elements is $2^k$, so in our case $2^{n^2}$.
Yes, the set ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is a subset of $Xtimes X$ and thus a relation (which is symmetric).
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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No, it is correct. Every relation is a subset of $Xtimes X$ which has power $n^2$. But the number of subsets in a set with $k$ elements is $2^k$, so in our case $2^{n^2}$.
Yes, the set ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is a subset of $Xtimes X$ and thus a relation (which is symmetric).
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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No, it is correct. Every relation is a subset of $Xtimes X$ which has power $n^2$. But the number of subsets in a set with $k$ elements is $2^k$, so in our case $2^{n^2}$.
Yes, the set ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is a subset of $Xtimes X$ and thus a relation (which is symmetric).
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No, it is correct. Every relation is a subset of $Xtimes X$ which has power $n^2$. But the number of subsets in a set with $k$ elements is $2^k$, so in our case $2^{n^2}$.
Yes, the set ${(a,b), (b,a), (c,c)}$ is a subset of $Xtimes X$ and thus a relation (which is symmetric).
edited Dec 31 '18 at 23:26
answered Dec 31 '18 at 22:15
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
1
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
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So {(a,b),(b,a),(c,c)} would be a relation?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 22:31
1
1
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Yes,and symmetric.
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– Maria Mazur
Dec 31 '18 at 22:32
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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Thank you, this all makes sense now.
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 31 '18 at 23:07
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I'm not sure what you mean by an "order relation" in this context but $(a, b)$ and $(b, a)$ in the relation mean that it can't be used to order $a$ and $b$.
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– Mark Bennet
Dec 31 '18 at 22:50