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A group of boys and girls know either French or Spanish. The number of boys and girls are in the ratio $1:4$. $30%$ of the girls know Spanish and the rest of them know French. On the other hand, $50%$ of the boys know Spanish and the rest of them know French. A student is chosen at random from the group of students who know Spanish. What is the probability that the chosen student is a girl?




My attempt was:



Let $P(G)$ and $P(B)$ be probability of choosing a girl and boy respectively. And $P(S)$ be probability of choosing someone who knows Spanish. Then,




$P(G|S)= frac{P(S|G)*P(G)}{P(S|G)*P(G)+P(S|B)*P(B)}$




But the answer using this way is not in the option. Moreover (B) is the answer in their answer key.




(A) 2/7

(B) 12/17

(C) 20/41

(D) 8/13




Is something wrong with my approach? How can I approach it correctly?










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    A group of boys and girls know either French or Spanish. The number of boys and girls are in the ratio $1:4$. $30%$ of the girls know Spanish and the rest of them know French. On the other hand, $50%$ of the boys know Spanish and the rest of them know French. A student is chosen at random from the group of students who know Spanish. What is the probability that the chosen student is a girl?




    My attempt was:



    Let $P(G)$ and $P(B)$ be probability of choosing a girl and boy respectively. And $P(S)$ be probability of choosing someone who knows Spanish. Then,




    $P(G|S)= frac{P(S|G)*P(G)}{P(S|G)*P(G)+P(S|B)*P(B)}$




    But the answer using this way is not in the option. Moreover (B) is the answer in their answer key.




    (A) 2/7

    (B) 12/17

    (C) 20/41

    (D) 8/13




    Is something wrong with my approach? How can I approach it correctly?










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      I had found this question.




      A group of boys and girls know either French or Spanish. The number of boys and girls are in the ratio $1:4$. $30%$ of the girls know Spanish and the rest of them know French. On the other hand, $50%$ of the boys know Spanish and the rest of them know French. A student is chosen at random from the group of students who know Spanish. What is the probability that the chosen student is a girl?




      My attempt was:



      Let $P(G)$ and $P(B)$ be probability of choosing a girl and boy respectively. And $P(S)$ be probability of choosing someone who knows Spanish. Then,




      $P(G|S)= frac{P(S|G)*P(G)}{P(S|G)*P(G)+P(S|B)*P(B)}$




      But the answer using this way is not in the option. Moreover (B) is the answer in their answer key.




      (A) 2/7

      (B) 12/17

      (C) 20/41

      (D) 8/13




      Is something wrong with my approach? How can I approach it correctly?










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      I had found this question.




      A group of boys and girls know either French or Spanish. The number of boys and girls are in the ratio $1:4$. $30%$ of the girls know Spanish and the rest of them know French. On the other hand, $50%$ of the boys know Spanish and the rest of them know French. A student is chosen at random from the group of students who know Spanish. What is the probability that the chosen student is a girl?




      My attempt was:



      Let $P(G)$ and $P(B)$ be probability of choosing a girl and boy respectively. And $P(S)$ be probability of choosing someone who knows Spanish. Then,




      $P(G|S)= frac{P(S|G)*P(G)}{P(S|G)*P(G)+P(S|B)*P(B)}$




      But the answer using this way is not in the option. Moreover (B) is the answer in their answer key.




      (A) 2/7

      (B) 12/17

      (C) 20/41

      (D) 8/13




      Is something wrong with my approach? How can I approach it correctly?







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          The probability of choosing a girl is $frac{4}{5}$ probability that a girl speaks Spanish is $frac{4}{5}.frac{3}{10}=frac{12}{50}$ similarly probability of selecting a boy speaking Spanish is $frac{1}{10}$ Thus using Bayes formula we get the answer as $frac{12}{17}$






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            It is IMV handsome to choose for $20$ boys and $80$ girls.



            Then $24$ girls speak Spanish and $56$ girls speak French.



            And $10$ boys speak Spanish and $10$ boys speak French.



            So if a Spanish speaking student is chosen then the probability that it is a girl equals:$$frac{24}{24+10}=frac{24}{34}=frac{12}{17}$$





            Using your method I find:
            $$Pleft(Gmid Sright)Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)$$



            with:





            • $Pleft(Smid Gright)=frac{3}{10}$

            • $Pleft(Gright)=frac{4}{5}$

            • $Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Bright)Pleft(Bright)+Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)=frac{1}{2}frac{1}{5}+frac{3}{10}frac{4}{5}=frac{17}{50}$


            and again leading to $Pleft(Gmid Sright)=frac{12}{17}$.






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              The probability of choosing a girl is $frac{4}{5}$ probability that a girl speaks Spanish is $frac{4}{5}.frac{3}{10}=frac{12}{50}$ similarly probability of selecting a boy speaking Spanish is $frac{1}{10}$ Thus using Bayes formula we get the answer as $frac{12}{17}$






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                The probability of choosing a girl is $frac{4}{5}$ probability that a girl speaks Spanish is $frac{4}{5}.frac{3}{10}=frac{12}{50}$ similarly probability of selecting a boy speaking Spanish is $frac{1}{10}$ Thus using Bayes formula we get the answer as $frac{12}{17}$






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                  The probability of choosing a girl is $frac{4}{5}$ probability that a girl speaks Spanish is $frac{4}{5}.frac{3}{10}=frac{12}{50}$ similarly probability of selecting a boy speaking Spanish is $frac{1}{10}$ Thus using Bayes formula we get the answer as $frac{12}{17}$






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                  The probability of choosing a girl is $frac{4}{5}$ probability that a girl speaks Spanish is $frac{4}{5}.frac{3}{10}=frac{12}{50}$ similarly probability of selecting a boy speaking Spanish is $frac{1}{10}$ Thus using Bayes formula we get the answer as $frac{12}{17}$







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                      It is IMV handsome to choose for $20$ boys and $80$ girls.



                      Then $24$ girls speak Spanish and $56$ girls speak French.



                      And $10$ boys speak Spanish and $10$ boys speak French.



                      So if a Spanish speaking student is chosen then the probability that it is a girl equals:$$frac{24}{24+10}=frac{24}{34}=frac{12}{17}$$





                      Using your method I find:
                      $$Pleft(Gmid Sright)Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)$$



                      with:





                      • $Pleft(Smid Gright)=frac{3}{10}$

                      • $Pleft(Gright)=frac{4}{5}$

                      • $Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Bright)Pleft(Bright)+Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)=frac{1}{2}frac{1}{5}+frac{3}{10}frac{4}{5}=frac{17}{50}$


                      and again leading to $Pleft(Gmid Sright)=frac{12}{17}$.






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                        It is IMV handsome to choose for $20$ boys and $80$ girls.



                        Then $24$ girls speak Spanish and $56$ girls speak French.



                        And $10$ boys speak Spanish and $10$ boys speak French.



                        So if a Spanish speaking student is chosen then the probability that it is a girl equals:$$frac{24}{24+10}=frac{24}{34}=frac{12}{17}$$





                        Using your method I find:
                        $$Pleft(Gmid Sright)Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)$$



                        with:





                        • $Pleft(Smid Gright)=frac{3}{10}$

                        • $Pleft(Gright)=frac{4}{5}$

                        • $Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Bright)Pleft(Bright)+Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)=frac{1}{2}frac{1}{5}+frac{3}{10}frac{4}{5}=frac{17}{50}$


                        and again leading to $Pleft(Gmid Sright)=frac{12}{17}$.






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                          It is IMV handsome to choose for $20$ boys and $80$ girls.



                          Then $24$ girls speak Spanish and $56$ girls speak French.



                          And $10$ boys speak Spanish and $10$ boys speak French.



                          So if a Spanish speaking student is chosen then the probability that it is a girl equals:$$frac{24}{24+10}=frac{24}{34}=frac{12}{17}$$





                          Using your method I find:
                          $$Pleft(Gmid Sright)Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)$$



                          with:





                          • $Pleft(Smid Gright)=frac{3}{10}$

                          • $Pleft(Gright)=frac{4}{5}$

                          • $Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Bright)Pleft(Bright)+Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)=frac{1}{2}frac{1}{5}+frac{3}{10}frac{4}{5}=frac{17}{50}$


                          and again leading to $Pleft(Gmid Sright)=frac{12}{17}$.






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                          It is IMV handsome to choose for $20$ boys and $80$ girls.



                          Then $24$ girls speak Spanish and $56$ girls speak French.



                          And $10$ boys speak Spanish and $10$ boys speak French.



                          So if a Spanish speaking student is chosen then the probability that it is a girl equals:$$frac{24}{24+10}=frac{24}{34}=frac{12}{17}$$





                          Using your method I find:
                          $$Pleft(Gmid Sright)Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)$$



                          with:





                          • $Pleft(Smid Gright)=frac{3}{10}$

                          • $Pleft(Gright)=frac{4}{5}$

                          • $Pleft(Sright)=Pleft(Smid Bright)Pleft(Bright)+Pleft(Smid Gright)Pleft(Gright)=frac{1}{2}frac{1}{5}+frac{3}{10}frac{4}{5}=frac{17}{50}$


                          and again leading to $Pleft(Gmid Sright)=frac{12}{17}$.







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