Solving the homogeneous system associated with a matrix












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So i have this matrix



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}
$$



and I want to solve the homogeneous system associated with it



I re-write the matrix as



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix} · (x,y,z)= $$

begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}

$$
$$



However, I do not know how to proceed from here as I've started studying matrices as a solo student from a couple of days.



The solutions are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0).



I am confused on how to get to these solutions which are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) and if anybody could show me the steps the simplest way possible it would be great ! Thanks!










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  • Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:14










  • I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:21










  • The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:36










  • Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:39
















-1














So i have this matrix



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}
$$



and I want to solve the homogeneous system associated with it



I re-write the matrix as



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix} · (x,y,z)= $$

begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}

$$
$$



However, I do not know how to proceed from here as I've started studying matrices as a solo student from a couple of days.



The solutions are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0).



I am confused on how to get to these solutions which are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) and if anybody could show me the steps the simplest way possible it would be great ! Thanks!










share|cite|improve this question
























  • Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:14










  • I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:21










  • The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:36










  • Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:39














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So i have this matrix



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}
$$



and I want to solve the homogeneous system associated with it



I re-write the matrix as



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix} · (x,y,z)= $$

begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}

$$
$$



However, I do not know how to proceed from here as I've started studying matrices as a solo student from a couple of days.



The solutions are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0).



I am confused on how to get to these solutions which are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) and if anybody could show me the steps the simplest way possible it would be great ! Thanks!










share|cite|improve this question















So i have this matrix



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}
$$



and I want to solve the homogeneous system associated with it



I re-write the matrix as



$$
begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
3 & 3 & -6 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix} · (x,y,z)= $$

begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 \
end{pmatrix}

$$
$$



However, I do not know how to proceed from here as I've started studying matrices as a solo student from a couple of days.



The solutions are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0).



I am confused on how to get to these solutions which are the linear combinations of (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) and if anybody could show me the steps the simplest way possible it would be great ! Thanks!







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  • Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:14










  • I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:21










  • The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:36










  • Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:39


















  • Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:14










  • I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:21










  • The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:36










  • Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:39
















Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
– DonAntonio
Dec 1 '18 at 14:14




Matrices have no "solutions": they are just matrices, so what do you really mean?
– DonAntonio
Dec 1 '18 at 14:14












I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:21




I'm sorry. I want to solving the homogeneous system associated with the matrix which gives me the linear combinations of (1,0,0) and (-1,1,0)
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:21












The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 14:36




The r.h.s. of your system should be a column vector.
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 14:36












Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:39




Yes, they are, i just couldn't write them in the right for
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:39










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The homogeneous system of linear equations whose coefficients matrix is your matrix is equivalent with the homogeneous system whose coefficients matrix is



$$begin{pmatrix}
0&0&0\0&0&0\
1&1&-2end{pmatrix}implies x+y-2z=0implies text{Span},left{;begin{pmatrix}1\-1\0end{pmatrix};,;;begin{pmatrix}2\0\1end{pmatrix};right}$$



Observe that both vectors you mention at the end of your question belong to the solution space (the span) above, and they both are linearly independents, so you can choose those two as basis or else you can take the basis I wrote above.






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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:48










  • My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:50










  • @BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 15:04










  • Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:06










  • Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:08



















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It's quite simple: your system is equivalent to the single equation
$$x+y-2z=0iff z=tfrac12(x+y)$$
so the subspace $S$ of solutions is isomorphic to $K^2$ ($K$ is the base field) via the isomorphism:
begin{align}
K^2&longrightarrow Ssubset K^3\
(x,y)&longmapsto (x,y,tfrac12(x+y))
end{align}

Now an isomorphism maps a basis onto a basis, so determine a basis of $K^2$ that maps onto the indicated basis.






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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:51










  • Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:55











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The homogeneous system of linear equations whose coefficients matrix is your matrix is equivalent with the homogeneous system whose coefficients matrix is



$$begin{pmatrix}
0&0&0\0&0&0\
1&1&-2end{pmatrix}implies x+y-2z=0implies text{Span},left{;begin{pmatrix}1\-1\0end{pmatrix};,;;begin{pmatrix}2\0\1end{pmatrix};right}$$



Observe that both vectors you mention at the end of your question belong to the solution space (the span) above, and they both are linearly independents, so you can choose those two as basis or else you can take the basis I wrote above.






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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:48










  • My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:50










  • @BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 15:04










  • Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:06










  • Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:08
















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The homogeneous system of linear equations whose coefficients matrix is your matrix is equivalent with the homogeneous system whose coefficients matrix is



$$begin{pmatrix}
0&0&0\0&0&0\
1&1&-2end{pmatrix}implies x+y-2z=0implies text{Span},left{;begin{pmatrix}1\-1\0end{pmatrix};,;;begin{pmatrix}2\0\1end{pmatrix};right}$$



Observe that both vectors you mention at the end of your question belong to the solution space (the span) above, and they both are linearly independents, so you can choose those two as basis or else you can take the basis I wrote above.






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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:48










  • My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:50










  • @BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 15:04










  • Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:06










  • Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:08














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The homogeneous system of linear equations whose coefficients matrix is your matrix is equivalent with the homogeneous system whose coefficients matrix is



$$begin{pmatrix}
0&0&0\0&0&0\
1&1&-2end{pmatrix}implies x+y-2z=0implies text{Span},left{;begin{pmatrix}1\-1\0end{pmatrix};,;;begin{pmatrix}2\0\1end{pmatrix};right}$$



Observe that both vectors you mention at the end of your question belong to the solution space (the span) above, and they both are linearly independents, so you can choose those two as basis or else you can take the basis I wrote above.






share|cite|improve this answer












The homogeneous system of linear equations whose coefficients matrix is your matrix is equivalent with the homogeneous system whose coefficients matrix is



$$begin{pmatrix}
0&0&0\0&0&0\
1&1&-2end{pmatrix}implies x+y-2z=0implies text{Span},left{;begin{pmatrix}1\-1\0end{pmatrix};,;;begin{pmatrix}2\0\1end{pmatrix};right}$$



Observe that both vectors you mention at the end of your question belong to the solution space (the span) above, and they both are linearly independents, so you can choose those two as basis or else you can take the basis I wrote above.







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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:48










  • My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:50










  • @BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 15:04










  • Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:06










  • Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:08


















  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:48










  • My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:50










  • @BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 1 '18 at 15:04










  • Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:06










  • Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 16:08
















I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:48




I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:48












My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:50




My confusion arises since I've been studying vectors only from a couple of days and i don't really grasp what you wrote above, i'm sorry
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:50












@BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
– DonAntonio
Dec 1 '18 at 15:04




@BM97 I really don't know then how to explain this to you. Perhaps someone else...This kind of exercises, as far as I know, is given when one has already studied the basics of linear (or vector) spaces, linear combinations, dependency and etc., and certainly not after just two days...
– DonAntonio
Dec 1 '18 at 15:04












Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 16:06




Okay , i got that the span is equal to (1,-1,0), (2,0,1).... would that be okay as an answer?? Its as fair as the vectors (1,1,1) and (-1,1,0) correct?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 16:06












Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 16:08




Meaning that if i write (1,1,1)(-1,1,0) or (1,-1,0)(2,0,1) its the same thing correct?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 16:08











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It's quite simple: your system is equivalent to the single equation
$$x+y-2z=0iff z=tfrac12(x+y)$$
so the subspace $S$ of solutions is isomorphic to $K^2$ ($K$ is the base field) via the isomorphism:
begin{align}
K^2&longrightarrow Ssubset K^3\
(x,y)&longmapsto (x,y,tfrac12(x+y))
end{align}

Now an isomorphism maps a basis onto a basis, so determine a basis of $K^2$ that maps onto the indicated basis.






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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:51










  • Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:55
















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It's quite simple: your system is equivalent to the single equation
$$x+y-2z=0iff z=tfrac12(x+y)$$
so the subspace $S$ of solutions is isomorphic to $K^2$ ($K$ is the base field) via the isomorphism:
begin{align}
K^2&longrightarrow Ssubset K^3\
(x,y)&longmapsto (x,y,tfrac12(x+y))
end{align}

Now an isomorphism maps a basis onto a basis, so determine a basis of $K^2$ that maps onto the indicated basis.






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:51










  • Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:55














0












0








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It's quite simple: your system is equivalent to the single equation
$$x+y-2z=0iff z=tfrac12(x+y)$$
so the subspace $S$ of solutions is isomorphic to $K^2$ ($K$ is the base field) via the isomorphism:
begin{align}
K^2&longrightarrow Ssubset K^3\
(x,y)&longmapsto (x,y,tfrac12(x+y))
end{align}

Now an isomorphism maps a basis onto a basis, so determine a basis of $K^2$ that maps onto the indicated basis.






share|cite|improve this answer












It's quite simple: your system is equivalent to the single equation
$$x+y-2z=0iff z=tfrac12(x+y)$$
so the subspace $S$ of solutions is isomorphic to $K^2$ ($K$ is the base field) via the isomorphism:
begin{align}
K^2&longrightarrow Ssubset K^3\
(x,y)&longmapsto (x,y,tfrac12(x+y))
end{align}

Now an isomorphism maps a basis onto a basis, so determine a basis of $K^2$ that maps onto the indicated basis.







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  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:51










  • Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:55


















  • I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
    – BM97
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:51










  • Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
    – Bernard
    Dec 1 '18 at 14:55
















I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:51




I am sorry but I didn't understand the last Part. I understood where you get x+y-2z=0 and that is really great. However, i am a little confused from here. With this equation x+y−2z=0, how do i proceed to get the exact results (1,1,1) and (-1,0,0)?
– BM97
Dec 1 '18 at 14:51












Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 14:55




Which values of $(x,y)$ map to $(1,1,1)$ and $(-1,10)$? Is the set of these values a basis of $K^2$?
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 14:55


















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