Prove that $D_{2n} = langle s, rs rangle$












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Show that the subgroup of $D_{2n}$ generated by the set ${s,rs}$ is $D_{2n}$ itself.



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$langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$ if and only if $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle$, so it is sufficient to show that the latter equality holds. The containment $langle r, s rangle subseteq langle s, rs rangle$ holds: since $r, s in langle s, rs rangle$ (cleary this is true for $s$, and also $r=(rs)s$), every element in $langle r, s rangle$ is also an element of $langle s, rs rangle$. The containment $langle s, rs rangle subseteq langle r, s rangle$ is clear, because since $s,rs in langle r, s rangle$ every element in $langle s, rs rangle$ is also an element in $langle r, s rangle$. Therefore $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$.










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  • Your solution is perfect!
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  • There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
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Show that the subgroup of $D_{2n}$ generated by the set ${s,rs}$ is $D_{2n}$ itself.



Here is my attempt:



$langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$ if and only if $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle$, so it is sufficient to show that the latter equality holds. The containment $langle r, s rangle subseteq langle s, rs rangle$ holds: since $r, s in langle s, rs rangle$ (cleary this is true for $s$, and also $r=(rs)s$), every element in $langle r, s rangle$ is also an element of $langle s, rs rangle$. The containment $langle s, rs rangle subseteq langle r, s rangle$ is clear, because since $s,rs in langle r, s rangle$ every element in $langle s, rs rangle$ is also an element in $langle r, s rangle$. Therefore $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$.










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  • Your solution is perfect!
    – LucaMac
    Sep 6 at 19:50












  • There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
    – Shaun
    Dec 1 at 17:45














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Show that the subgroup of $D_{2n}$ generated by the set ${s,rs}$ is $D_{2n}$ itself.



Here is my attempt:



$langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$ if and only if $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle$, so it is sufficient to show that the latter equality holds. The containment $langle r, s rangle subseteq langle s, rs rangle$ holds: since $r, s in langle s, rs rangle$ (cleary this is true for $s$, and also $r=(rs)s$), every element in $langle r, s rangle$ is also an element of $langle s, rs rangle$. The containment $langle s, rs rangle subseteq langle r, s rangle$ is clear, because since $s,rs in langle r, s rangle$ every element in $langle s, rs rangle$ is also an element in $langle r, s rangle$. Therefore $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$.










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Show that the subgroup of $D_{2n}$ generated by the set ${s,rs}$ is $D_{2n}$ itself.



Here is my attempt:



$langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$ if and only if $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle$, so it is sufficient to show that the latter equality holds. The containment $langle r, s rangle subseteq langle s, rs rangle$ holds: since $r, s in langle s, rs rangle$ (cleary this is true for $s$, and also $r=(rs)s$), every element in $langle r, s rangle$ is also an element of $langle s, rs rangle$. The containment $langle s, rs rangle subseteq langle r, s rangle$ is clear, because since $s,rs in langle r, s rangle$ every element in $langle s, rs rangle$ is also an element in $langle r, s rangle$. Therefore $langle r, s rangle = langle s, rs rangle = D_{2n}$.







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  • Your solution is perfect!
    – LucaMac
    Sep 6 at 19:50












  • There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
    – Shaun
    Dec 1 at 17:45


















  • Your solution is perfect!
    – LucaMac
    Sep 6 at 19:50












  • There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
    – Shaun
    Dec 1 at 17:45
















Your solution is perfect!
– LucaMac
Sep 6 at 19:50






Your solution is perfect!
– LucaMac
Sep 6 at 19:50














There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
– Shaun
Dec 1 at 17:45




There's nothing special about $D_{2n}$ here besides that it has two generators. We can thus generalise it . . .
– Shaun
Dec 1 at 17:45










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Your proof is sound, except that there is (what I suspect is) a typo. It should be $$r=(rs)s^{color{red}{-1}}.$$






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    Your proof is sound, except that there is (what I suspect is) a typo. It should be $$r=(rs)s^{color{red}{-1}}.$$






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        Your proof is sound, except that there is (what I suspect is) a typo. It should be $$r=(rs)s^{color{red}{-1}}.$$






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        Your proof is sound, except that there is (what I suspect is) a typo. It should be $$r=(rs)s^{color{red}{-1}}.$$







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