Set of real polynomials, organized as a vectorspace over $mathbb{R}$.
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I'm currently studying for a Linear Algebra exam in january, thus I'm going through some older exam questions, and I'm at the following question.
Let $mathbb{R}[x]$ denote the set of all real polynomials, which is organized as a vectorspace over $mathbb{R}$.
- A. Assume that $U={pinmathbb{R}_{1}[x]|p(2)=0}$. Determine a basis for $U$ and its dimension.
- B. Add $p(x)=x-2$ to a basis $B$ for $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, and determine the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ for $q(x)=3+2x+x^2$
- C. Determine a subspace $Wsubset mathbb{R}_3[x]$ such that $Uoplus W=mathbb{R}_3[x]$. Determine $dim W$.
- D. Find the matrix $M(T)$ with respect to $B$ when $T=4D+3I$, where $D$ denote differentiation and $I$ denotes the identical map. Determine whether $T$ is injective, surjective or bijective.
- E. Let $L$ denote the set of all real numbers $lambda$ such that $S=4D-lambda I$ has $span(1,x^2,x^3)$ as a subspace which is invariant under $S$. Determine $L$.
My answers are,
A. $q(x)=x-2$ is a basis for $U$ and its dimension is 1.
B. I add $p(x)=x-2$ to the standard basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, such that $B=(x-2,1,x,x^2,x^3)$, this is not a basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ as $x$ can be written as a linear comb. of the previous elements (vectors?), thus I reduce it to a basis by removing $x$ from the list so $B=(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$. Now I write the matrix with respect to this basis and add $begin{bmatrix}3\2\1\0end{bmatrix}$ to the matrix, and then I compute the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ by gauss elimination.
$begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 3\
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0& 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
sim
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 7\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
end{align}$
Thus
$[q]_B = begin{bmatrix}2 \7\1\0end{bmatrix}$
C. From B. $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ had the basis $(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$, and the basis of $U=(x-2)$, so $W=(1,x^2,x^3)$, thus $Uoplus W$ will span $mathbb{R}_3[x]$. $dim W=3$
I'm stuck at D. and E. I assume that I start by differentiating the basis of $B$, then representing $B'$ as a matrix which I substitute into $D$ and then add the $3I$? I'm not sure that I'm capable of solving E. without knowing the methods from D.
I hope that some of it is right, and I hope to get some tips, correction and some help with the last two questions.
Best regards Jens.
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I'm currently studying for a Linear Algebra exam in january, thus I'm going through some older exam questions, and I'm at the following question.
Let $mathbb{R}[x]$ denote the set of all real polynomials, which is organized as a vectorspace over $mathbb{R}$.
- A. Assume that $U={pinmathbb{R}_{1}[x]|p(2)=0}$. Determine a basis for $U$ and its dimension.
- B. Add $p(x)=x-2$ to a basis $B$ for $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, and determine the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ for $q(x)=3+2x+x^2$
- C. Determine a subspace $Wsubset mathbb{R}_3[x]$ such that $Uoplus W=mathbb{R}_3[x]$. Determine $dim W$.
- D. Find the matrix $M(T)$ with respect to $B$ when $T=4D+3I$, where $D$ denote differentiation and $I$ denotes the identical map. Determine whether $T$ is injective, surjective or bijective.
- E. Let $L$ denote the set of all real numbers $lambda$ such that $S=4D-lambda I$ has $span(1,x^2,x^3)$ as a subspace which is invariant under $S$. Determine $L$.
My answers are,
A. $q(x)=x-2$ is a basis for $U$ and its dimension is 1.
B. I add $p(x)=x-2$ to the standard basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, such that $B=(x-2,1,x,x^2,x^3)$, this is not a basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ as $x$ can be written as a linear comb. of the previous elements (vectors?), thus I reduce it to a basis by removing $x$ from the list so $B=(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$. Now I write the matrix with respect to this basis and add $begin{bmatrix}3\2\1\0end{bmatrix}$ to the matrix, and then I compute the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ by gauss elimination.
$begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 3\
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0& 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
sim
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 7\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
end{align}$
Thus
$[q]_B = begin{bmatrix}2 \7\1\0end{bmatrix}$
C. From B. $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ had the basis $(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$, and the basis of $U=(x-2)$, so $W=(1,x^2,x^3)$, thus $Uoplus W$ will span $mathbb{R}_3[x]$. $dim W=3$
I'm stuck at D. and E. I assume that I start by differentiating the basis of $B$, then representing $B'$ as a matrix which I substitute into $D$ and then add the $3I$? I'm not sure that I'm capable of solving E. without knowing the methods from D.
I hope that some of it is right, and I hope to get some tips, correction and some help with the last two questions.
Best regards Jens.
linear-algebra
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I'm currently studying for a Linear Algebra exam in january, thus I'm going through some older exam questions, and I'm at the following question.
Let $mathbb{R}[x]$ denote the set of all real polynomials, which is organized as a vectorspace over $mathbb{R}$.
- A. Assume that $U={pinmathbb{R}_{1}[x]|p(2)=0}$. Determine a basis for $U$ and its dimension.
- B. Add $p(x)=x-2$ to a basis $B$ for $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, and determine the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ for $q(x)=3+2x+x^2$
- C. Determine a subspace $Wsubset mathbb{R}_3[x]$ such that $Uoplus W=mathbb{R}_3[x]$. Determine $dim W$.
- D. Find the matrix $M(T)$ with respect to $B$ when $T=4D+3I$, where $D$ denote differentiation and $I$ denotes the identical map. Determine whether $T$ is injective, surjective or bijective.
- E. Let $L$ denote the set of all real numbers $lambda$ such that $S=4D-lambda I$ has $span(1,x^2,x^3)$ as a subspace which is invariant under $S$. Determine $L$.
My answers are,
A. $q(x)=x-2$ is a basis for $U$ and its dimension is 1.
B. I add $p(x)=x-2$ to the standard basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, such that $B=(x-2,1,x,x^2,x^3)$, this is not a basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ as $x$ can be written as a linear comb. of the previous elements (vectors?), thus I reduce it to a basis by removing $x$ from the list so $B=(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$. Now I write the matrix with respect to this basis and add $begin{bmatrix}3\2\1\0end{bmatrix}$ to the matrix, and then I compute the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ by gauss elimination.
$begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 3\
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0& 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
sim
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 7\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
end{align}$
Thus
$[q]_B = begin{bmatrix}2 \7\1\0end{bmatrix}$
C. From B. $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ had the basis $(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$, and the basis of $U=(x-2)$, so $W=(1,x^2,x^3)$, thus $Uoplus W$ will span $mathbb{R}_3[x]$. $dim W=3$
I'm stuck at D. and E. I assume that I start by differentiating the basis of $B$, then representing $B'$ as a matrix which I substitute into $D$ and then add the $3I$? I'm not sure that I'm capable of solving E. without knowing the methods from D.
I hope that some of it is right, and I hope to get some tips, correction and some help with the last two questions.
Best regards Jens.
linear-algebra
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I'm currently studying for a Linear Algebra exam in january, thus I'm going through some older exam questions, and I'm at the following question.
Let $mathbb{R}[x]$ denote the set of all real polynomials, which is organized as a vectorspace over $mathbb{R}$.
- A. Assume that $U={pinmathbb{R}_{1}[x]|p(2)=0}$. Determine a basis for $U$ and its dimension.
- B. Add $p(x)=x-2$ to a basis $B$ for $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, and determine the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ for $q(x)=3+2x+x^2$
- C. Determine a subspace $Wsubset mathbb{R}_3[x]$ such that $Uoplus W=mathbb{R}_3[x]$. Determine $dim W$.
- D. Find the matrix $M(T)$ with respect to $B$ when $T=4D+3I$, where $D$ denote differentiation and $I$ denotes the identical map. Determine whether $T$ is injective, surjective or bijective.
- E. Let $L$ denote the set of all real numbers $lambda$ such that $S=4D-lambda I$ has $span(1,x^2,x^3)$ as a subspace which is invariant under $S$. Determine $L$.
My answers are,
A. $q(x)=x-2$ is a basis for $U$ and its dimension is 1.
B. I add $p(x)=x-2$ to the standard basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$, such that $B=(x-2,1,x,x^2,x^3)$, this is not a basis of $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ as $x$ can be written as a linear comb. of the previous elements (vectors?), thus I reduce it to a basis by removing $x$ from the list so $B=(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$. Now I write the matrix with respect to this basis and add $begin{bmatrix}3\2\1\0end{bmatrix}$ to the matrix, and then I compute the coordinate vector $[q]_B$ by gauss elimination.
$begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 3\
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0& 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
sim
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 2\
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 7\
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0
end{bmatrix}
end{align}$
Thus
$[q]_B = begin{bmatrix}2 \7\1\0end{bmatrix}$
C. From B. $mathbb{R}_3[x]$ had the basis $(x-2,1,x^2,x^3)$, and the basis of $U=(x-2)$, so $W=(1,x^2,x^3)$, thus $Uoplus W$ will span $mathbb{R}_3[x]$. $dim W=3$
I'm stuck at D. and E. I assume that I start by differentiating the basis of $B$, then representing $B'$ as a matrix which I substitute into $D$ and then add the $3I$? I'm not sure that I'm capable of solving E. without knowing the methods from D.
I hope that some of it is right, and I hope to get some tips, correction and some help with the last two questions.
Best regards Jens.
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Up till now all correct :)
For exercise D) you'll need The differentiation Matrix $$D=
begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 2 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 0
end{bmatrix}$$
$$T:=4D+3I=begin{bmatrix}
3 & 4 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 3 & 8 & 0 \
0 & 0& 3 & 12 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3
end{bmatrix} $$
T is bijective because $det(T)=3^4neq 0$ If you have not learned about determinants jet you can simply use the Gauss-algorithm to Calculate $A^{-1}$.
Then have to write T with as a Matrix with Respect to the Basis B. For this you will need the Transformation Matricies $[id]^B_S$ and $[id]^S_B$ (where S denotes the standart-Basis) then $[T]^B_B=[id]^B_S T [id]^S_B$
hint:
$[id]^B_S$ the transformation matrix from S to B is:
$$[id]^B_S=begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1& 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 1
end{bmatrix} $$
to understand this look at $[id]^B_S e_j $.
Also note $[id]^B_S=([id]^S_B)^{-1}$
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I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
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I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
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the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
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You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
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Jan 2 at 17:24
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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Up till now all correct :)
For exercise D) you'll need The differentiation Matrix $$D=
begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 2 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 0
end{bmatrix}$$
$$T:=4D+3I=begin{bmatrix}
3 & 4 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 3 & 8 & 0 \
0 & 0& 3 & 12 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3
end{bmatrix} $$
T is bijective because $det(T)=3^4neq 0$ If you have not learned about determinants jet you can simply use the Gauss-algorithm to Calculate $A^{-1}$.
Then have to write T with as a Matrix with Respect to the Basis B. For this you will need the Transformation Matricies $[id]^B_S$ and $[id]^S_B$ (where S denotes the standart-Basis) then $[T]^B_B=[id]^B_S T [id]^S_B$
hint:
$[id]^B_S$ the transformation matrix from S to B is:
$$[id]^B_S=begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1& 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 1
end{bmatrix} $$
to understand this look at $[id]^B_S e_j $.
Also note $[id]^B_S=([id]^S_B)^{-1}$
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I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
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I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
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the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
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You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
1
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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Jan 2 at 18:11
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Up till now all correct :)
For exercise D) you'll need The differentiation Matrix $$D=
begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 2 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 0
end{bmatrix}$$
$$T:=4D+3I=begin{bmatrix}
3 & 4 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 3 & 8 & 0 \
0 & 0& 3 & 12 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3
end{bmatrix} $$
T is bijective because $det(T)=3^4neq 0$ If you have not learned about determinants jet you can simply use the Gauss-algorithm to Calculate $A^{-1}$.
Then have to write T with as a Matrix with Respect to the Basis B. For this you will need the Transformation Matricies $[id]^B_S$ and $[id]^S_B$ (where S denotes the standart-Basis) then $[T]^B_B=[id]^B_S T [id]^S_B$
hint:
$[id]^B_S$ the transformation matrix from S to B is:
$$[id]^B_S=begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1& 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 1
end{bmatrix} $$
to understand this look at $[id]^B_S e_j $.
Also note $[id]^B_S=([id]^S_B)^{-1}$
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I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
$begingroup$
I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
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the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
$begingroup$
You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
1
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 18:11
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Up till now all correct :)
For exercise D) you'll need The differentiation Matrix $$D=
begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 2 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 0
end{bmatrix}$$
$$T:=4D+3I=begin{bmatrix}
3 & 4 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 3 & 8 & 0 \
0 & 0& 3 & 12 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3
end{bmatrix} $$
T is bijective because $det(T)=3^4neq 0$ If you have not learned about determinants jet you can simply use the Gauss-algorithm to Calculate $A^{-1}$.
Then have to write T with as a Matrix with Respect to the Basis B. For this you will need the Transformation Matricies $[id]^B_S$ and $[id]^S_B$ (where S denotes the standart-Basis) then $[T]^B_B=[id]^B_S T [id]^S_B$
hint:
$[id]^B_S$ the transformation matrix from S to B is:
$$[id]^B_S=begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1& 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 1
end{bmatrix} $$
to understand this look at $[id]^B_S e_j $.
Also note $[id]^B_S=([id]^S_B)^{-1}$
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Up till now all correct :)
For exercise D) you'll need The differentiation Matrix $$D=
begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 2 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 0
end{bmatrix}$$
$$T:=4D+3I=begin{bmatrix}
3 & 4 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 3 & 8 & 0 \
0 & 0& 3 & 12 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 3
end{bmatrix} $$
T is bijective because $det(T)=3^4neq 0$ If you have not learned about determinants jet you can simply use the Gauss-algorithm to Calculate $A^{-1}$.
Then have to write T with as a Matrix with Respect to the Basis B. For this you will need the Transformation Matricies $[id]^B_S$ and $[id]^S_B$ (where S denotes the standart-Basis) then $[T]^B_B=[id]^B_S T [id]^S_B$
hint:
$[id]^B_S$ the transformation matrix from S to B is:
$$[id]^B_S=begin{bmatrix}
-2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1& 0 \
0 & 0 & 0 & 1
end{bmatrix} $$
to understand this look at $[id]^B_S e_j $.
Also note $[id]^B_S=([id]^S_B)^{-1}$
edited Jan 2 at 17:56
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:28
A. PA. P
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I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
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I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
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the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
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You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
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– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
1
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 18:11
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I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
$begingroup$
I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
$begingroup$
the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
$endgroup$
– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
$begingroup$
You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
1
$begingroup$
👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
$endgroup$
– A. P
Jan 2 at 18:11
$begingroup$
I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
$begingroup$
I think I'm doing something wrong when trying to calculate the $[id]^S_B$ matrix. I get a matrix with a zero in the diagonal such that it isn't invertible.
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 15:54
$begingroup$
I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
$begingroup$
I have misunderstood some things, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just calculated the matrix in the hint, but i thought that it was $[id]^S_B$ not $[id]^B_S$. When you write $e_j$, do you refer to the j'th orthonormal basisvector. I'm not really sure what that should clarify. Last I calculate the inverse of $[id]^B_S$ to be $begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0 & 0\ 1 &2 &0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix}$. My previous comment said that I didn't think this was invertible because one of the diagonals had a zero, which seems to be wrong. Is it right to say it isn't diagonizable then?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 16:58
$begingroup$
the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
$endgroup$
– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
$begingroup$
the matrix seems right, it is the inverse of the matrix I've written (i'm not quite sure about my notation i might have done it the wrong way round) , $e_j$ is the j-basisvektor $e_1=(1,0,0,0),e_2=(0,1,0,0),e_3=(0,0,1,0),e_4=(0,0,0,1)$
$endgroup$
– A. P
Jan 2 at 17:07
$begingroup$
You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
$begingroup$
You might be right about it, its just I don't use the same notation, it took a minute to figure the id meant the identity :p So multiplying $[id]^B_Se_j$ for each $e_j$ would yield a basis for $B$, right? After finding $[id]^B_S$ and its inverse I determine $[T]^B_B=begin{bmatrix}3&4&0&0\0&3&0&0\8&16&3&0\0&0&12&3end{bmatrix}$ To summarize to find the matrix of $T$, $M(T)=[T]^B_B$, I first compute $T$ from the assumptions, then find an invertible matrix $[id]^B_S$ wrt the basis B, finding its inverse, $[id]^S_B$ then I compute $M(T)=[id]^B_ST_S[id]^S_B$?
$endgroup$
– Jens Kramer
Jan 2 at 17:24
1
1
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 18:11
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👍Wolfram alpha gives me the same answer,
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– A. P
Jan 2 at 18:11
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