Check if $ f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) $ is a subset of $f(A) cap B $.











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Check if $ f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) $ is a subset of $f(A) cap B $.



$f(A) = {y: forall x in A y=f(x) }$ Edit: this is incorrect!



$f^{-1}(B) = {x: f(x) = B }$



$f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) = \{y: forall x in (A cap f^{-1}(B)) y=f(x)} = \{y: forall x in A land forall xin f^{-1}(B) y=f(x)} =\ {y: forall x in A land forall xin f(x)=B y=f(x)} = ? $



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  • Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
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  • @Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
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  • Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
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$f : X rightarrow Y , A subset X, Bsubset Y $



Check if $ f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) $ is a subset of $f(A) cap B $.



$f(A) = {y: forall x in A y=f(x) }$ Edit: this is incorrect!



$f^{-1}(B) = {x: f(x) = B }$



$f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) = \{y: forall x in (A cap f^{-1}(B)) y=f(x)} = \{y: forall x in A land forall xin f^{-1}(B) y=f(x)} =\ {y: forall x in A land forall xin f(x)=B y=f(x)} = ? $



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  • Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
    – Robert Israel
    Nov 27 at 15:15










  • @Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
    – Yadati Kiran
    Nov 27 at 15:21












  • Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
    – Student
    Nov 27 at 15:25













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$f : X rightarrow Y , A subset X, Bsubset Y $



Check if $ f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) $ is a subset of $f(A) cap B $.



$f(A) = {y: forall x in A y=f(x) }$ Edit: this is incorrect!



$f^{-1}(B) = {x: f(x) = B }$



$f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) = \{y: forall x in (A cap f^{-1}(B)) y=f(x)} = \{y: forall x in A land forall xin f^{-1}(B) y=f(x)} =\ {y: forall x in A land forall xin f(x)=B y=f(x)} = ? $



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$f : X rightarrow Y , A subset X, Bsubset Y $



Check if $ f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) $ is a subset of $f(A) cap B $.



$f(A) = {y: forall x in A y=f(x) }$ Edit: this is incorrect!



$f^{-1}(B) = {x: f(x) = B }$



$f(A cap f^{-1}(B)) = \{y: forall x in (A cap f^{-1}(B)) y=f(x)} = \{y: forall x in A land forall xin f^{-1}(B) y=f(x)} =\ {y: forall x in A land forall xin f(x)=B y=f(x)} = ? $



I don't know how to proceed further.







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  • Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
    – Robert Israel
    Nov 27 at 15:15










  • @Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
    – Yadati Kiran
    Nov 27 at 15:21












  • Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
    – Student
    Nov 27 at 15:25


















  • Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
    – Robert Israel
    Nov 27 at 15:15










  • @Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
    – Yadati Kiran
    Nov 27 at 15:21












  • Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
    – Student
    Nov 27 at 15:25
















Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
– Robert Israel
Nov 27 at 15:15




Your statements $f(A)=ldots$ and $f^{-1}(B) = ldots$ are wrong.
– Robert Israel
Nov 27 at 15:15












@Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 27 at 15:21






@Student: $f(A)={f(x):::xin A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin X:::f(x)in B}$
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 27 at 15:21














Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
– Student
Nov 27 at 15:25




Oh the book I was using had some other quantifier notation and made a mistake reading which was which.
– Student
Nov 27 at 15:25










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By definition $f(A)={f(a)mid ain A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin Xmid f(x)in B}$.



The last definition states that $xin f^{-1}(B)iff f(x)in B$.



We can conclude directly that $f(f^{-1}(B))subseteq B$.



Now observe that:




  • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq A$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)$


  • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq f^{-1}(B)$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(f^{-1}(B)subseteq B$



Then consequently: $$f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)cap B$$






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    By definition $f(A)={f(a)mid ain A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin Xmid f(x)in B}$.



    The last definition states that $xin f^{-1}(B)iff f(x)in B$.



    We can conclude directly that $f(f^{-1}(B))subseteq B$.



    Now observe that:




    • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq A$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)$


    • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq f^{-1}(B)$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(f^{-1}(B)subseteq B$



    Then consequently: $$f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)cap B$$






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      By definition $f(A)={f(a)mid ain A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin Xmid f(x)in B}$.



      The last definition states that $xin f^{-1}(B)iff f(x)in B$.



      We can conclude directly that $f(f^{-1}(B))subseteq B$.



      Now observe that:




      • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq A$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)$


      • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq f^{-1}(B)$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(f^{-1}(B)subseteq B$



      Then consequently: $$f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)cap B$$






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        By definition $f(A)={f(a)mid ain A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin Xmid f(x)in B}$.



        The last definition states that $xin f^{-1}(B)iff f(x)in B$.



        We can conclude directly that $f(f^{-1}(B))subseteq B$.



        Now observe that:




        • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq A$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)$


        • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq f^{-1}(B)$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(f^{-1}(B)subseteq B$



        Then consequently: $$f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)cap B$$






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        By definition $f(A)={f(a)mid ain A}$ and $f^{-1}(B)={xin Xmid f(x)in B}$.



        The last definition states that $xin f^{-1}(B)iff f(x)in B$.



        We can conclude directly that $f(f^{-1}(B))subseteq B$.



        Now observe that:




        • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq A$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)$


        • $Acap f^{-1}(B)subseteq f^{-1}(B)$ so that $f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(f^{-1}(B)subseteq B$



        Then consequently: $$f(Acap f^{-1}(B))subseteq f(A)cap B$$







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