How to choose between two solutions where both seem to be correct?
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Question to solve: $ ysin(2x)dx - (y^2 + cos^2x)dy = 0 $ -----(i)
Writing (i) in exact form [$ M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0$], we get
$ysin(2x)dx + [-(y^2 + cos^2x)]dy = 0$ $where,M=ysin(2x)$ and $N=[-(y^2 + cos^2x)]$
Since the given differential equation is exact, i.e, $∂M/∂y = ∂N/∂x = sin(2x)$
it's general solution is given by
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) + $∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms) $=C$
My workout:
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) = $∫ysin(2x)dx$ = $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$
$∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms)$ = ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3 $
So, the general solution is $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 $ $= C$
But if we differentiate the general solution it does not trace back to original Differential Equation.
However if I simplify $ cos^2(x)$ as $frac{cos2x+1}2$ I receive [$frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 - frac{y}2$ $= C$] as general solution and it does trace back to original differential eqaution. So, the problem is do i need verify everytime whether the obtained solution is correct or not, or both of the solutions are correct here?
calculus ordinary-differential-equations proof-verification
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Question to solve: $ ysin(2x)dx - (y^2 + cos^2x)dy = 0 $ -----(i)
Writing (i) in exact form [$ M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0$], we get
$ysin(2x)dx + [-(y^2 + cos^2x)]dy = 0$ $where,M=ysin(2x)$ and $N=[-(y^2 + cos^2x)]$
Since the given differential equation is exact, i.e, $∂M/∂y = ∂N/∂x = sin(2x)$
it's general solution is given by
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) + $∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms) $=C$
My workout:
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) = $∫ysin(2x)dx$ = $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$
$∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms)$ = ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3 $
So, the general solution is $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 $ $= C$
But if we differentiate the general solution it does not trace back to original Differential Equation.
However if I simplify $ cos^2(x)$ as $frac{cos2x+1}2$ I receive [$frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 - frac{y}2$ $= C$] as general solution and it does trace back to original differential eqaution. So, the problem is do i need verify everytime whether the obtained solution is correct or not, or both of the solutions are correct here?
calculus ordinary-differential-equations proof-verification
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
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– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49
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Question to solve: $ ysin(2x)dx - (y^2 + cos^2x)dy = 0 $ -----(i)
Writing (i) in exact form [$ M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0$], we get
$ysin(2x)dx + [-(y^2 + cos^2x)]dy = 0$ $where,M=ysin(2x)$ and $N=[-(y^2 + cos^2x)]$
Since the given differential equation is exact, i.e, $∂M/∂y = ∂N/∂x = sin(2x)$
it's general solution is given by
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) + $∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms) $=C$
My workout:
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) = $∫ysin(2x)dx$ = $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$
$∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms)$ = ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3 $
So, the general solution is $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 $ $= C$
But if we differentiate the general solution it does not trace back to original Differential Equation.
However if I simplify $ cos^2(x)$ as $frac{cos2x+1}2$ I receive [$frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 - frac{y}2$ $= C$] as general solution and it does trace back to original differential eqaution. So, the problem is do i need verify everytime whether the obtained solution is correct or not, or both of the solutions are correct here?
calculus ordinary-differential-equations proof-verification
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Question to solve: $ ysin(2x)dx - (y^2 + cos^2x)dy = 0 $ -----(i)
Writing (i) in exact form [$ M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0$], we get
$ysin(2x)dx + [-(y^2 + cos^2x)]dy = 0$ $where,M=ysin(2x)$ and $N=[-(y^2 + cos^2x)]$
Since the given differential equation is exact, i.e, $∂M/∂y = ∂N/∂x = sin(2x)$
it's general solution is given by
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) + $∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms) $=C$
My workout:
$∫Mdx$ (with y constant) = $∫ysin(2x)dx$ = $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$
$∫Ndy $ ("N" free from x terms)$ = ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3 $
So, the general solution is $frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 $ $= C$
But if we differentiate the general solution it does not trace back to original Differential Equation.
However if I simplify $ cos^2(x)$ as $frac{cos2x+1}2$ I receive [$frac{-ycos(2x)}2$ + $frac{-y^3}3 - frac{y}2$ $= C$] as general solution and it does trace back to original differential eqaution. So, the problem is do i need verify everytime whether the obtained solution is correct or not, or both of the solutions are correct here?
calculus ordinary-differential-equations proof-verification
calculus ordinary-differential-equations proof-verification
asked Dec 7 '18 at 3:23
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
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– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49
add a comment |
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
$endgroup$
– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
$endgroup$
– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
$endgroup$
– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
$endgroup$
– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
$endgroup$
– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49
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The following line in your original solution is wrong, which is the reason the answer you obtained is wrong (and thus doesn't satisfy the original equation):
$int Ndy$ ("N" free from x terms)$= ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3$
A few lines earlier you stated (correctly!) that $N=[-(y^2+cos^2x)]$, therefore the integral of $N$ is
$$int N,dy=int[-(y^2+cos^2x)],dy,$$
not what you set up above, as the function you put inside the integral is not $N$.
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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The following line in your original solution is wrong, which is the reason the answer you obtained is wrong (and thus doesn't satisfy the original equation):
$int Ndy$ ("N" free from x terms)$= ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3$
A few lines earlier you stated (correctly!) that $N=[-(y^2+cos^2x)]$, therefore the integral of $N$ is
$$int N,dy=int[-(y^2+cos^2x)],dy,$$
not what you set up above, as the function you put inside the integral is not $N$.
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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The following line in your original solution is wrong, which is the reason the answer you obtained is wrong (and thus doesn't satisfy the original equation):
$int Ndy$ ("N" free from x terms)$= ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3$
A few lines earlier you stated (correctly!) that $N=[-(y^2+cos^2x)]$, therefore the integral of $N$ is
$$int N,dy=int[-(y^2+cos^2x)],dy,$$
not what you set up above, as the function you put inside the integral is not $N$.
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
add a comment |
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The following line in your original solution is wrong, which is the reason the answer you obtained is wrong (and thus doesn't satisfy the original equation):
$int Ndy$ ("N" free from x terms)$= ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3$
A few lines earlier you stated (correctly!) that $N=[-(y^2+cos^2x)]$, therefore the integral of $N$ is
$$int N,dy=int[-(y^2+cos^2x)],dy,$$
not what you set up above, as the function you put inside the integral is not $N$.
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The following line in your original solution is wrong, which is the reason the answer you obtained is wrong (and thus doesn't satisfy the original equation):
$int Ndy$ ("N" free from x terms)$= ∫-y^2 dy = frac{-y^3}3$
A few lines earlier you stated (correctly!) that $N=[-(y^2+cos^2x)]$, therefore the integral of $N$ is
$$int N,dy=int[-(y^2+cos^2x)],dy,$$
not what you set up above, as the function you put inside the integral is not $N$.
answered Dec 7 '18 at 4:06
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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Is it not that while integrating "N", we should only integrate the terms in N which are free from x terms? And, N has $[−(y^2+cos^2x)]$, freeing it from x terms we are left with $-y^2$ only.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 10:25
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I think checking the final solution is necessary, sometimes calculations have typos!
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– Nosrati
Dec 7 '18 at 3:47
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I believe there are no typos in either of the solution. But still your advice is useful.
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– Abbas Miya
Dec 7 '18 at 3:49