Can Lay on Hands be used to both heal hit points and remove diseases/poisons with the same action?
$begingroup$
The Paladin's Lay on Hands feature says:
As an action, you can touch a creature and [...] restore a number of hit points to that creature.
It also goes on to say:
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it. You can cure multiple diseases and neutralize multiple poisons with a single use of Lay on Hands [...]
Could I opt to do both at the same time? Perhaps an ally was struck by a crossbow bolt with drow poison, and I needed to both heal them as well as remove the poison in one go; is that permissible?
As written, it seems vague. The first paragraph specifies the use of an action to heal hit points, but the second simply indicates an alternative way for the hit point pool to be expended, but doesn't seem to indicate that the use is exclusive from the first.
dnd-5e class-feature paladin healing
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The Paladin's Lay on Hands feature says:
As an action, you can touch a creature and [...] restore a number of hit points to that creature.
It also goes on to say:
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it. You can cure multiple diseases and neutralize multiple poisons with a single use of Lay on Hands [...]
Could I opt to do both at the same time? Perhaps an ally was struck by a crossbow bolt with drow poison, and I needed to both heal them as well as remove the poison in one go; is that permissible?
As written, it seems vague. The first paragraph specifies the use of an action to heal hit points, but the second simply indicates an alternative way for the hit point pool to be expended, but doesn't seem to indicate that the use is exclusive from the first.
dnd-5e class-feature paladin healing
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The Paladin's Lay on Hands feature says:
As an action, you can touch a creature and [...] restore a number of hit points to that creature.
It also goes on to say:
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it. You can cure multiple diseases and neutralize multiple poisons with a single use of Lay on Hands [...]
Could I opt to do both at the same time? Perhaps an ally was struck by a crossbow bolt with drow poison, and I needed to both heal them as well as remove the poison in one go; is that permissible?
As written, it seems vague. The first paragraph specifies the use of an action to heal hit points, but the second simply indicates an alternative way for the hit point pool to be expended, but doesn't seem to indicate that the use is exclusive from the first.
dnd-5e class-feature paladin healing
$endgroup$
The Paladin's Lay on Hands feature says:
As an action, you can touch a creature and [...] restore a number of hit points to that creature.
It also goes on to say:
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it. You can cure multiple diseases and neutralize multiple poisons with a single use of Lay on Hands [...]
Could I opt to do both at the same time? Perhaps an ally was struck by a crossbow bolt with drow poison, and I needed to both heal them as well as remove the poison in one go; is that permissible?
As written, it seems vague. The first paragraph specifies the use of an action to heal hit points, but the second simply indicates an alternative way for the hit point pool to be expended, but doesn't seem to indicate that the use is exclusive from the first.
dnd-5e class-feature paladin healing
dnd-5e class-feature paladin healing
edited Nov 26 '18 at 5:47
V2Blast
25.7k488158
25.7k488158
asked Nov 26 '18 at 5:00
PyrotechnicalPyrotechnical
15k562138
15k562138
add a comment |
add a comment |
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Unfortunately not.
RAW, the use of Lay on Hands is heal HP, or cure disease. The keyword in the phrase is "alternatively" (emphasis mine).
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it.
The idea is that in combat, the process of using Lay on Hands only allows for you to either "heal" (HP), or focus more specifically on "curing" (disease), and this process is a "6 second" process.
Outside of combat however, this is less of an issue, so long as you manage your Healing pool points correctly.
However, Jeremy Crawford has clarified that it is intended to heal, and cure, at the same time.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
No, not in the ordinary sense of "alternatively"
The semantics of alternatively, from Princeton Univerity's WordNet (which lists synonym sets together) are:
alternatively: as an alternative, instead, or else (in place of, or as an alternative to; "Felix became a herpetologist instead"; "alternatively we could buy a used car")
So notice that "alternatively" is listed as synonymous with "instead" and "or else".
Thus I do not believe it really is vague. If you neutralize a poison or cure a disease, you do so instead of restoring hit points.
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
According to Jeremy Crawford, yes, it can.
Official 5e rules designer Jeremy Crawford addresses this question quite simply here:
So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP *and* cure a disease in one action? I think yes.
Yes.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can literally interpret the use of "alternatively" here in two ways, but in context only one of them makes any sense. You have, essentially, "As an action do a or do b". So it either is "(As an action do a) or (do b)", or "As an action (do a or do b)". If it's the first one, then that would suggest you could do b spontaneously without using an action, which I think in the context of the game and this ability doesn't make sense. So it would have to be the second one, which is as one action do one of two things.
Update:
Check out this answer: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/98393/50316. Notice where he quotes "you want to use a skill above-and-beyond passive use? You've got to devote some time and attention to it, as represented by your action." I'd say since Lay On Hands is clearly an active effort, not a passive effect, and would certainly take time and attention, it would definitely be an action.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "122"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f136225%2fcan-lay-on-hands-be-used-to-both-heal-hit-points-and-remove-diseases-poisons-wit%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Unfortunately not.
RAW, the use of Lay on Hands is heal HP, or cure disease. The keyword in the phrase is "alternatively" (emphasis mine).
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it.
The idea is that in combat, the process of using Lay on Hands only allows for you to either "heal" (HP), or focus more specifically on "curing" (disease), and this process is a "6 second" process.
Outside of combat however, this is less of an issue, so long as you manage your Healing pool points correctly.
However, Jeremy Crawford has clarified that it is intended to heal, and cure, at the same time.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
Unfortunately not.
RAW, the use of Lay on Hands is heal HP, or cure disease. The keyword in the phrase is "alternatively" (emphasis mine).
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it.
The idea is that in combat, the process of using Lay on Hands only allows for you to either "heal" (HP), or focus more specifically on "curing" (disease), and this process is a "6 second" process.
Outside of combat however, this is less of an issue, so long as you manage your Healing pool points correctly.
However, Jeremy Crawford has clarified that it is intended to heal, and cure, at the same time.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
Unfortunately not.
RAW, the use of Lay on Hands is heal HP, or cure disease. The keyword in the phrase is "alternatively" (emphasis mine).
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it.
The idea is that in combat, the process of using Lay on Hands only allows for you to either "heal" (HP), or focus more specifically on "curing" (disease), and this process is a "6 second" process.
Outside of combat however, this is less of an issue, so long as you manage your Healing pool points correctly.
However, Jeremy Crawford has clarified that it is intended to heal, and cure, at the same time.
$endgroup$
Unfortunately not.
RAW, the use of Lay on Hands is heal HP, or cure disease. The keyword in the phrase is "alternatively" (emphasis mine).
Alternatively, you can expend 5 hit points from your pool of healing to cure the target of one disease or neutralize one poison affecting it.
The idea is that in combat, the process of using Lay on Hands only allows for you to either "heal" (HP), or focus more specifically on "curing" (disease), and this process is a "6 second" process.
Outside of combat however, this is less of an issue, so long as you manage your Healing pool points correctly.
However, Jeremy Crawford has clarified that it is intended to heal, and cure, at the same time.
edited Dec 4 '18 at 7:59
answered Nov 26 '18 at 5:16
BenBen
11k1567138
11k1567138
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
|
show 5 more comments
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
1
1
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
In other words, out-of-combat two mechanical actions can be one storytelling action without issues, right?
$endgroup$
– Mołot
Nov 26 '18 at 10:59
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
$begingroup$
@Mołot As long as resources are expended, the time tracking of Initiative Order isn't the limiting factor.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Nov 26 '18 at 14:52
1
1
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@V2Blast RAW Vs RAI
$endgroup$
– Ben
Dec 4 '18 at 7:47
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
$begingroup$
@ben the sage advice is official as discussed in this question.
$endgroup$
– rpgstar
Dec 4 '18 at 7:54
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
No, not in the ordinary sense of "alternatively"
The semantics of alternatively, from Princeton Univerity's WordNet (which lists synonym sets together) are:
alternatively: as an alternative, instead, or else (in place of, or as an alternative to; "Felix became a herpetologist instead"; "alternatively we could buy a used car")
So notice that "alternatively" is listed as synonymous with "instead" and "or else".
Thus I do not believe it really is vague. If you neutralize a poison or cure a disease, you do so instead of restoring hit points.
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
No, not in the ordinary sense of "alternatively"
The semantics of alternatively, from Princeton Univerity's WordNet (which lists synonym sets together) are:
alternatively: as an alternative, instead, or else (in place of, or as an alternative to; "Felix became a herpetologist instead"; "alternatively we could buy a used car")
So notice that "alternatively" is listed as synonymous with "instead" and "or else".
Thus I do not believe it really is vague. If you neutralize a poison or cure a disease, you do so instead of restoring hit points.
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
No, not in the ordinary sense of "alternatively"
The semantics of alternatively, from Princeton Univerity's WordNet (which lists synonym sets together) are:
alternatively: as an alternative, instead, or else (in place of, or as an alternative to; "Felix became a herpetologist instead"; "alternatively we could buy a used car")
So notice that "alternatively" is listed as synonymous with "instead" and "or else".
Thus I do not believe it really is vague. If you neutralize a poison or cure a disease, you do so instead of restoring hit points.
$endgroup$
No, not in the ordinary sense of "alternatively"
The semantics of alternatively, from Princeton Univerity's WordNet (which lists synonym sets together) are:
alternatively: as an alternative, instead, or else (in place of, or as an alternative to; "Felix became a herpetologist instead"; "alternatively we could buy a used car")
So notice that "alternatively" is listed as synonymous with "instead" and "or else".
Thus I do not believe it really is vague. If you neutralize a poison or cure a disease, you do so instead of restoring hit points.
edited Nov 26 '18 at 14:49
Tim Grant
19.2k749115
19.2k749115
answered Nov 26 '18 at 5:12
Valley LadValley Lad
3,3431239
3,3431239
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
2
2
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
$begingroup$
Crawford directly contradicts this answer in this ruling. Twitter user: "So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP and cure a disease in one action? I think yes." Crawford: "Yes."
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Dec 4 '18 at 7:46
1
1
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
$begingroup$
+1 @V2Blast for coming up with that reference. Crawford is only human, and this is an abuse of the word "alternatively". He should fix it in the errata next time around. It's RAI vs RAW.
$endgroup$
– Valley Lad
Dec 5 '18 at 7:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
According to Jeremy Crawford, yes, it can.
Official 5e rules designer Jeremy Crawford addresses this question quite simply here:
So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP *and* cure a disease in one action? I think yes.
Yes.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
According to Jeremy Crawford, yes, it can.
Official 5e rules designer Jeremy Crawford addresses this question quite simply here:
So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP *and* cure a disease in one action? I think yes.
Yes.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
According to Jeremy Crawford, yes, it can.
Official 5e rules designer Jeremy Crawford addresses this question quite simply here:
So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP *and* cure a disease in one action? I think yes.
Yes.
$endgroup$
According to Jeremy Crawford, yes, it can.
Official 5e rules designer Jeremy Crawford addresses this question quite simply here:
So yeah. Lay on Hands. Can you both heal HP *and* cure a disease in one action? I think yes.
Yes.
edited Dec 4 '18 at 8:00
Carcer
26.4k479140
26.4k479140
answered Dec 4 '18 at 7:45
V2BlastV2Blast
25.7k488158
25.7k488158
add a comment |
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can literally interpret the use of "alternatively" here in two ways, but in context only one of them makes any sense. You have, essentially, "As an action do a or do b". So it either is "(As an action do a) or (do b)", or "As an action (do a or do b)". If it's the first one, then that would suggest you could do b spontaneously without using an action, which I think in the context of the game and this ability doesn't make sense. So it would have to be the second one, which is as one action do one of two things.
Update:
Check out this answer: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/98393/50316. Notice where he quotes "you want to use a skill above-and-beyond passive use? You've got to devote some time and attention to it, as represented by your action." I'd say since Lay On Hands is clearly an active effort, not a passive effect, and would certainly take time and attention, it would definitely be an action.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can literally interpret the use of "alternatively" here in two ways, but in context only one of them makes any sense. You have, essentially, "As an action do a or do b". So it either is "(As an action do a) or (do b)", or "As an action (do a or do b)". If it's the first one, then that would suggest you could do b spontaneously without using an action, which I think in the context of the game and this ability doesn't make sense. So it would have to be the second one, which is as one action do one of two things.
Update:
Check out this answer: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/98393/50316. Notice where he quotes "you want to use a skill above-and-beyond passive use? You've got to devote some time and attention to it, as represented by your action." I'd say since Lay On Hands is clearly an active effort, not a passive effect, and would certainly take time and attention, it would definitely be an action.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can literally interpret the use of "alternatively" here in two ways, but in context only one of them makes any sense. You have, essentially, "As an action do a or do b". So it either is "(As an action do a) or (do b)", or "As an action (do a or do b)". If it's the first one, then that would suggest you could do b spontaneously without using an action, which I think in the context of the game and this ability doesn't make sense. So it would have to be the second one, which is as one action do one of two things.
Update:
Check out this answer: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/98393/50316. Notice where he quotes "you want to use a skill above-and-beyond passive use? You've got to devote some time and attention to it, as represented by your action." I'd say since Lay On Hands is clearly an active effort, not a passive effect, and would certainly take time and attention, it would definitely be an action.
$endgroup$
I think you can literally interpret the use of "alternatively" here in two ways, but in context only one of them makes any sense. You have, essentially, "As an action do a or do b". So it either is "(As an action do a) or (do b)", or "As an action (do a or do b)". If it's the first one, then that would suggest you could do b spontaneously without using an action, which I think in the context of the game and this ability doesn't make sense. So it would have to be the second one, which is as one action do one of two things.
Update:
Check out this answer: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/98393/50316. Notice where he quotes "you want to use a skill above-and-beyond passive use? You've got to devote some time and attention to it, as represented by your action." I'd say since Lay On Hands is clearly an active effort, not a passive effect, and would certainly take time and attention, it would definitely be an action.
answered Nov 27 '18 at 2:19
Dustin KaneDustin Kane
11
11
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to the RPG Stack! Unfortunately, this answer has already been provided. If you have something new to add, that the other answers haven't already covered, go for it!
$endgroup$
– Ben
Nov 27 '18 at 2:24
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to rpg.se!
$endgroup$
– UrhoKarila
Nov 27 '18 at 2:26
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already. Relevant meta: Don't signal your edits in text. Your answer should stand as if it were always the best version of itself.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Nov 27 '18 at 5:22
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f136225%2fcan-lay-on-hands-be-used-to-both-heal-hit-points-and-remove-diseases-poisons-wit%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown