Why is every prime except 2 and 5 a divisor of some 99…99?
I already know one answer to the question (which is why the question occurred to me). Here it is:
If $p$ is a prime not equal to $2$ or $5$, then $frac1p$ has a repeating decimal expression:
$$0.d_1d_2cdots d_koverline{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}$$
where the $d$'s and the $e$'s are digits. Standard techniques (e.g. geometric series) show that
$$frac1p=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_k}{10^k}+frac{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_kcdot(10^ell-1)+e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}$$
(Here $d_1d_2cdots d_k$ and $e_1e_2cdots e_ell$ are not products but decimal expansions of integers.)
We can reduce this complicated fraction to $frac1p$, so the denominator is a multiple of $p$. But $p$ isn't $2$ or $5$, so $10^ell-1$ is a multiple of $p$.
I have not thought about number theory much, but I imagine this follows from some standard undergraduate number-theorem. Does anyone know one? And does anyone know the history of the proof above? Surely, lots of people teaching Calculus (like me, right now) have noticed this in the course of making tests. Or have I made some mistake?
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I already know one answer to the question (which is why the question occurred to me). Here it is:
If $p$ is a prime not equal to $2$ or $5$, then $frac1p$ has a repeating decimal expression:
$$0.d_1d_2cdots d_koverline{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}$$
where the $d$'s and the $e$'s are digits. Standard techniques (e.g. geometric series) show that
$$frac1p=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_k}{10^k}+frac{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_kcdot(10^ell-1)+e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}$$
(Here $d_1d_2cdots d_k$ and $e_1e_2cdots e_ell$ are not products but decimal expansions of integers.)
We can reduce this complicated fraction to $frac1p$, so the denominator is a multiple of $p$. But $p$ isn't $2$ or $5$, so $10^ell-1$ is a multiple of $p$.
I have not thought about number theory much, but I imagine this follows from some standard undergraduate number-theorem. Does anyone know one? And does anyone know the history of the proof above? Surely, lots of people teaching Calculus (like me, right now) have noticed this in the course of making tests. Or have I made some mistake?
elementary-number-theory
1
Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14
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I already know one answer to the question (which is why the question occurred to me). Here it is:
If $p$ is a prime not equal to $2$ or $5$, then $frac1p$ has a repeating decimal expression:
$$0.d_1d_2cdots d_koverline{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}$$
where the $d$'s and the $e$'s are digits. Standard techniques (e.g. geometric series) show that
$$frac1p=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_k}{10^k}+frac{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_kcdot(10^ell-1)+e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}$$
(Here $d_1d_2cdots d_k$ and $e_1e_2cdots e_ell$ are not products but decimal expansions of integers.)
We can reduce this complicated fraction to $frac1p$, so the denominator is a multiple of $p$. But $p$ isn't $2$ or $5$, so $10^ell-1$ is a multiple of $p$.
I have not thought about number theory much, but I imagine this follows from some standard undergraduate number-theorem. Does anyone know one? And does anyone know the history of the proof above? Surely, lots of people teaching Calculus (like me, right now) have noticed this in the course of making tests. Or have I made some mistake?
elementary-number-theory
I already know one answer to the question (which is why the question occurred to me). Here it is:
If $p$ is a prime not equal to $2$ or $5$, then $frac1p$ has a repeating decimal expression:
$$0.d_1d_2cdots d_koverline{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}$$
where the $d$'s and the $e$'s are digits. Standard techniques (e.g. geometric series) show that
$$frac1p=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_k}{10^k}+frac{e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}=frac{d_1d_2cdots d_kcdot(10^ell-1)+e_1e_2cdots e_ell}{10^k(10^ell-1)}$$
(Here $d_1d_2cdots d_k$ and $e_1e_2cdots e_ell$ are not products but decimal expansions of integers.)
We can reduce this complicated fraction to $frac1p$, so the denominator is a multiple of $p$. But $p$ isn't $2$ or $5$, so $10^ell-1$ is a multiple of $p$.
I have not thought about number theory much, but I imagine this follows from some standard undergraduate number-theorem. Does anyone know one? And does anyone know the history of the proof above? Surely, lots of people teaching Calculus (like me, right now) have noticed this in the course of making tests. Or have I made some mistake?
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Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14
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1
Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14
1
1
Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14
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Your title is actually backwards, what you showed is that there exists $ell$ such that $pmid 10^ell -1$ when $pne 2,5$. This is $10^ell-1$ being divisible by the prime not the prime being divisible by $10^ell-1$.
Nonetheless, this is true, and you gave an interesting argument for it. In general, this follows from a result known as Fermat's little theorem, which says that if $pnmid a$,
then $pmid a^{p-1}-1$.
Note on notation: $amid b$ is read as $a$ divides $b$ and means that $frac{b}{a}$ is an integer.
I can't say I'm familiar with the proof you gave or its history though.
Thanks, I fixed the title.
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:45
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You can go a little further.
Theorem 1: For any number, prime or not, $k$ then if $m=gcd(k,10)$ then there is $99999....9999= 10^l$ so that $m$ divides into $10^l -1$
Pf: You gave it. Well, for a full proof we have to prove all decimals of rational numbers repeat infinitely. That's easy to show as there are only $m$ possible remainders and once a remainder comes up the second time you are in an infinite loop to repeat yourself.
Corrolaries: If $gcd(k, 3) = 1$ then there is a $111111.....l$ that $m$ divides into. If $gcd(k,9) = 3$ then there is a $333333.....3$ that $m$ divides into.
But here's a powerful second theorem.
Th 2: If $p$ is a prime, then $p$ divides into $frac {10^{p-1}-1}9= underbrace{1111....111}_{p-1text{ times}}$.
This is a direct result of Fermat's Little theorem that for any prime $p$ and and any $a;gcd(a,p)=1$ that $a^{p-1} equiv 1 pmod p$ or in other words that $p$ divides into $a^{p-1}$.
I'm not going to prove FLT but, now that I think of it, it's a rather sophisticated variation of your argument.
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
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Your title is actually backwards, what you showed is that there exists $ell$ such that $pmid 10^ell -1$ when $pne 2,5$. This is $10^ell-1$ being divisible by the prime not the prime being divisible by $10^ell-1$.
Nonetheless, this is true, and you gave an interesting argument for it. In general, this follows from a result known as Fermat's little theorem, which says that if $pnmid a$,
then $pmid a^{p-1}-1$.
Note on notation: $amid b$ is read as $a$ divides $b$ and means that $frac{b}{a}$ is an integer.
I can't say I'm familiar with the proof you gave or its history though.
Thanks, I fixed the title.
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:45
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Your title is actually backwards, what you showed is that there exists $ell$ such that $pmid 10^ell -1$ when $pne 2,5$. This is $10^ell-1$ being divisible by the prime not the prime being divisible by $10^ell-1$.
Nonetheless, this is true, and you gave an interesting argument for it. In general, this follows from a result known as Fermat's little theorem, which says that if $pnmid a$,
then $pmid a^{p-1}-1$.
Note on notation: $amid b$ is read as $a$ divides $b$ and means that $frac{b}{a}$ is an integer.
I can't say I'm familiar with the proof you gave or its history though.
Thanks, I fixed the title.
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:45
add a comment |
Your title is actually backwards, what you showed is that there exists $ell$ such that $pmid 10^ell -1$ when $pne 2,5$. This is $10^ell-1$ being divisible by the prime not the prime being divisible by $10^ell-1$.
Nonetheless, this is true, and you gave an interesting argument for it. In general, this follows from a result known as Fermat's little theorem, which says that if $pnmid a$,
then $pmid a^{p-1}-1$.
Note on notation: $amid b$ is read as $a$ divides $b$ and means that $frac{b}{a}$ is an integer.
I can't say I'm familiar with the proof you gave or its history though.
Your title is actually backwards, what you showed is that there exists $ell$ such that $pmid 10^ell -1$ when $pne 2,5$. This is $10^ell-1$ being divisible by the prime not the prime being divisible by $10^ell-1$.
Nonetheless, this is true, and you gave an interesting argument for it. In general, this follows from a result known as Fermat's little theorem, which says that if $pnmid a$,
then $pmid a^{p-1}-1$.
Note on notation: $amid b$ is read as $a$ divides $b$ and means that $frac{b}{a}$ is an integer.
I can't say I'm familiar with the proof you gave or its history though.
answered Nov 29 at 16:28
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Thanks, I fixed the title.
– Nathan Reading
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Thanks, I fixed the title.
– Nathan Reading
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Thanks, I fixed the title.
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Thanks, I fixed the title.
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You can go a little further.
Theorem 1: For any number, prime or not, $k$ then if $m=gcd(k,10)$ then there is $99999....9999= 10^l$ so that $m$ divides into $10^l -1$
Pf: You gave it. Well, for a full proof we have to prove all decimals of rational numbers repeat infinitely. That's easy to show as there are only $m$ possible remainders and once a remainder comes up the second time you are in an infinite loop to repeat yourself.
Corrolaries: If $gcd(k, 3) = 1$ then there is a $111111.....l$ that $m$ divides into. If $gcd(k,9) = 3$ then there is a $333333.....3$ that $m$ divides into.
But here's a powerful second theorem.
Th 2: If $p$ is a prime, then $p$ divides into $frac {10^{p-1}-1}9= underbrace{1111....111}_{p-1text{ times}}$.
This is a direct result of Fermat's Little theorem that for any prime $p$ and and any $a;gcd(a,p)=1$ that $a^{p-1} equiv 1 pmod p$ or in other words that $p$ divides into $a^{p-1}$.
I'm not going to prove FLT but, now that I think of it, it's a rather sophisticated variation of your argument.
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
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You can go a little further.
Theorem 1: For any number, prime or not, $k$ then if $m=gcd(k,10)$ then there is $99999....9999= 10^l$ so that $m$ divides into $10^l -1$
Pf: You gave it. Well, for a full proof we have to prove all decimals of rational numbers repeat infinitely. That's easy to show as there are only $m$ possible remainders and once a remainder comes up the second time you are in an infinite loop to repeat yourself.
Corrolaries: If $gcd(k, 3) = 1$ then there is a $111111.....l$ that $m$ divides into. If $gcd(k,9) = 3$ then there is a $333333.....3$ that $m$ divides into.
But here's a powerful second theorem.
Th 2: If $p$ is a prime, then $p$ divides into $frac {10^{p-1}-1}9= underbrace{1111....111}_{p-1text{ times}}$.
This is a direct result of Fermat's Little theorem that for any prime $p$ and and any $a;gcd(a,p)=1$ that $a^{p-1} equiv 1 pmod p$ or in other words that $p$ divides into $a^{p-1}$.
I'm not going to prove FLT but, now that I think of it, it's a rather sophisticated variation of your argument.
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
|
show 2 more comments
You can go a little further.
Theorem 1: For any number, prime or not, $k$ then if $m=gcd(k,10)$ then there is $99999....9999= 10^l$ so that $m$ divides into $10^l -1$
Pf: You gave it. Well, for a full proof we have to prove all decimals of rational numbers repeat infinitely. That's easy to show as there are only $m$ possible remainders and once a remainder comes up the second time you are in an infinite loop to repeat yourself.
Corrolaries: If $gcd(k, 3) = 1$ then there is a $111111.....l$ that $m$ divides into. If $gcd(k,9) = 3$ then there is a $333333.....3$ that $m$ divides into.
But here's a powerful second theorem.
Th 2: If $p$ is a prime, then $p$ divides into $frac {10^{p-1}-1}9= underbrace{1111....111}_{p-1text{ times}}$.
This is a direct result of Fermat's Little theorem that for any prime $p$ and and any $a;gcd(a,p)=1$ that $a^{p-1} equiv 1 pmod p$ or in other words that $p$ divides into $a^{p-1}$.
I'm not going to prove FLT but, now that I think of it, it's a rather sophisticated variation of your argument.
You can go a little further.
Theorem 1: For any number, prime or not, $k$ then if $m=gcd(k,10)$ then there is $99999....9999= 10^l$ so that $m$ divides into $10^l -1$
Pf: You gave it. Well, for a full proof we have to prove all decimals of rational numbers repeat infinitely. That's easy to show as there are only $m$ possible remainders and once a remainder comes up the second time you are in an infinite loop to repeat yourself.
Corrolaries: If $gcd(k, 3) = 1$ then there is a $111111.....l$ that $m$ divides into. If $gcd(k,9) = 3$ then there is a $333333.....3$ that $m$ divides into.
But here's a powerful second theorem.
Th 2: If $p$ is a prime, then $p$ divides into $frac {10^{p-1}-1}9= underbrace{1111....111}_{p-1text{ times}}$.
This is a direct result of Fermat's Little theorem that for any prime $p$ and and any $a;gcd(a,p)=1$ that $a^{p-1} equiv 1 pmod p$ or in other words that $p$ divides into $a^{p-1}$.
I'm not going to prove FLT but, now that I think of it, it's a rather sophisticated variation of your argument.
answered Nov 29 at 17:05
fleablood
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Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
|
show 2 more comments
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
Yes, your Theorem 2 is even cooler, in that it captures the full statement of Fermat's Little Theorem in a "high school arithmetic" context (as in my question).
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:47
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
By the way, FLT is almost universally "Fermat's Last Theorem". Maybe the little one should be FLiT? :)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 30 at 18:48
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
No. FLT is almost universally Faster Than Light.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:13
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Ancd CRT universally means Cathode Ray Tube.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:17
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
Fermat's Last Theorem may be better known to the world in general but on these boards Fermat's Little Theorem is a lot more used and applicable. I've never seen Fermat's Last Theorem referred to as FLT. On these boards I've found FLT almost always means Fermat's Little Theorem (I can't think of an instance when it meant any thing else). However I don't think we should use the abreviation without explanation first and on the whole must here don't.
– fleablood
Nov 30 at 19:18
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Fermat's little theorem
– achille hui
Nov 29 at 16:27
@achillehui: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! (And now, some undergrad number theory is coming back to me, after many years.)
– Nathan Reading
Nov 29 at 16:37
It was a well known method of grade school that to as method to covert repeating decimals to fractions we let $N= a.bcd..foverline{jklm...}$. $10^l N =abcdf..... jklm...overline{jklm...}$ so $10^lN - N = integer$ so $N = frac {integer}{99999...}$ which meant that all fractions $frac ab$ can be converted to $frac {m}{99999....90000...}$ which struck me as an amazing coincidence.
– fleablood
Nov 29 at 17:14