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How can I find, partial derivative of $P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial P}{partial T}bigg)_q$$
given that I know, partial derivative of $ln P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}bigg)_q$$



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  • Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
    – Decaf-Math
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  • no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
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How can I find, partial derivative of $P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial P}{partial T}bigg)_q$$
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$$bigg(frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}bigg)_q$$



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  • Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
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  • no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
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given that I know, partial derivative of $ln P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}bigg)_q$$



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How can I find, partial derivative of $P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial P}{partial T}bigg)_q$$
given that I know, partial derivative of $ln P$ with respect to $T$ at a given $q$
$$bigg(frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}bigg)_q$$



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  • Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
    – Decaf-Math
    Nov 20 at 19:49










  • no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
    – Karthik
    Nov 20 at 19:53


















  • Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
    – Decaf-Math
    Nov 20 at 19:49










  • no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
    – Karthik
    Nov 20 at 19:53
















Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
– Decaf-Math
Nov 20 at 19:49




Does $(f)_q$ represent the partial derivative of $f$ with respect to $q$?
– Decaf-Math
Nov 20 at 19:49












no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
– Karthik
Nov 20 at 19:53




no it represents partial derivative of f at constant q. $(partial f/ partial t)_q$ represents partial derivative of f with respect to t at constant q.
– Karthik
Nov 20 at 19:53










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For a smooth function $f$ you have:
$$
frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}=frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} Rightarrow f'(x)=f(x) frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}
$$

With you notation this gives:
$$
left(frac{partial P}{partial T}right)_q=P(T,q)left(frac{partial log{P}}{partial T}right)_q
$$






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    Notice that:



    $$frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T} = frac{1}{P}frac{partial P }{partial T},$$



    or equivalently:
    $$frac{partial P }{partial T} = P frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}.$$



    Moreover, notice that you don't need to care about $q$ since it is assumed constant in both the expressions.






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      For a smooth function $f$ you have:
      $$
      frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}=frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} Rightarrow f'(x)=f(x) frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}
      $$

      With you notation this gives:
      $$
      left(frac{partial P}{partial T}right)_q=P(T,q)left(frac{partial log{P}}{partial T}right)_q
      $$






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        For a smooth function $f$ you have:
        $$
        frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}=frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} Rightarrow f'(x)=f(x) frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}
        $$

        With you notation this gives:
        $$
        left(frac{partial P}{partial T}right)_q=P(T,q)left(frac{partial log{P}}{partial T}right)_q
        $$






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          For a smooth function $f$ you have:
          $$
          frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}=frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} Rightarrow f'(x)=f(x) frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}
          $$

          With you notation this gives:
          $$
          left(frac{partial P}{partial T}right)_q=P(T,q)left(frac{partial log{P}}{partial T}right)_q
          $$






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          For a smooth function $f$ you have:
          $$
          frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}=frac{f'(x)}{f(x)} Rightarrow f'(x)=f(x) frac{dlog{f(x)}}{dx}
          $$

          With you notation this gives:
          $$
          left(frac{partial P}{partial T}right)_q=P(T,q)left(frac{partial log{P}}{partial T}right)_q
          $$







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              Notice that:



              $$frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T} = frac{1}{P}frac{partial P }{partial T},$$



              or equivalently:
              $$frac{partial P }{partial T} = P frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}.$$



              Moreover, notice that you don't need to care about $q$ since it is assumed constant in both the expressions.






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                Notice that:



                $$frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T} = frac{1}{P}frac{partial P }{partial T},$$



                or equivalently:
                $$frac{partial P }{partial T} = P frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}.$$



                Moreover, notice that you don't need to care about $q$ since it is assumed constant in both the expressions.






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                  Notice that:



                  $$frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T} = frac{1}{P}frac{partial P }{partial T},$$



                  or equivalently:
                  $$frac{partial P }{partial T} = P frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}.$$



                  Moreover, notice that you don't need to care about $q$ since it is assumed constant in both the expressions.






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                  Notice that:



                  $$frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T} = frac{1}{P}frac{partial P }{partial T},$$



                  or equivalently:
                  $$frac{partial P }{partial T} = P frac{partial big(ln (P) big)}{partial T}.$$



                  Moreover, notice that you don't need to care about $q$ since it is assumed constant in both the expressions.







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