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I encountered in a text the unsupported assertion that the series expansion of



$$(1-w)^{y_1/y_2+1} + left(frac{x}{y_2z_2}right)(1-w)^{y_1/y_2} = 1$$



is



$$w = left(frac{1}{y}right)left(frac{1}{z_2}right)x
- left(frac{1}{2y^2z}right)x^2 - left(frac{1}{3y^3z^2}right)left(z_1-z_2right)x^3 - left(frac{1}{8y^4z^3}right)left(2z_1^2 - 5z_1z_2 + 2z_2^2right)x^4 + ldots
$$



for $0 le frac{x}{y_2z_2} le 1$ and given that ${ y_1, y_2, z_1, z_2 } in mathbb{N}$, $y=y_1+y_2$, $z=z_1cdot{}z_2$, $y_1z_1=y_2z_2$, and $1-w ge 0$.



The series appears to have the basic form



$$w = -sum_{i=1}^infty left(frac{x^i}{i!! cdot{} y^i z^{i-1}}right) left(??right)$$



where the term indicated by question marks lacks a recognizable pattern (${-1/z_2, 1, z_1-z_2, (2z_1-z_2)(z_1-2z_2), ldots }$).



By what approach can this series expansion be derived?










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  • In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
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I encountered in a text the unsupported assertion that the series expansion of



$$(1-w)^{y_1/y_2+1} + left(frac{x}{y_2z_2}right)(1-w)^{y_1/y_2} = 1$$



is



$$w = left(frac{1}{y}right)left(frac{1}{z_2}right)x
- left(frac{1}{2y^2z}right)x^2 - left(frac{1}{3y^3z^2}right)left(z_1-z_2right)x^3 - left(frac{1}{8y^4z^3}right)left(2z_1^2 - 5z_1z_2 + 2z_2^2right)x^4 + ldots
$$



for $0 le frac{x}{y_2z_2} le 1$ and given that ${ y_1, y_2, z_1, z_2 } in mathbb{N}$, $y=y_1+y_2$, $z=z_1cdot{}z_2$, $y_1z_1=y_2z_2$, and $1-w ge 0$.



The series appears to have the basic form



$$w = -sum_{i=1}^infty left(frac{x^i}{i!! cdot{} y^i z^{i-1}}right) left(??right)$$



where the term indicated by question marks lacks a recognizable pattern (${-1/z_2, 1, z_1-z_2, (2z_1-z_2)(z_1-2z_2), ldots }$).



By what approach can this series expansion be derived?










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  • In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 16:55













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I encountered in a text the unsupported assertion that the series expansion of



$$(1-w)^{y_1/y_2+1} + left(frac{x}{y_2z_2}right)(1-w)^{y_1/y_2} = 1$$



is



$$w = left(frac{1}{y}right)left(frac{1}{z_2}right)x
- left(frac{1}{2y^2z}right)x^2 - left(frac{1}{3y^3z^2}right)left(z_1-z_2right)x^3 - left(frac{1}{8y^4z^3}right)left(2z_1^2 - 5z_1z_2 + 2z_2^2right)x^4 + ldots
$$



for $0 le frac{x}{y_2z_2} le 1$ and given that ${ y_1, y_2, z_1, z_2 } in mathbb{N}$, $y=y_1+y_2$, $z=z_1cdot{}z_2$, $y_1z_1=y_2z_2$, and $1-w ge 0$.



The series appears to have the basic form



$$w = -sum_{i=1}^infty left(frac{x^i}{i!! cdot{} y^i z^{i-1}}right) left(??right)$$



where the term indicated by question marks lacks a recognizable pattern (${-1/z_2, 1, z_1-z_2, (2z_1-z_2)(z_1-2z_2), ldots }$).



By what approach can this series expansion be derived?










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I encountered in a text the unsupported assertion that the series expansion of



$$(1-w)^{y_1/y_2+1} + left(frac{x}{y_2z_2}right)(1-w)^{y_1/y_2} = 1$$



is



$$w = left(frac{1}{y}right)left(frac{1}{z_2}right)x
- left(frac{1}{2y^2z}right)x^2 - left(frac{1}{3y^3z^2}right)left(z_1-z_2right)x^3 - left(frac{1}{8y^4z^3}right)left(2z_1^2 - 5z_1z_2 + 2z_2^2right)x^4 + ldots
$$



for $0 le frac{x}{y_2z_2} le 1$ and given that ${ y_1, y_2, z_1, z_2 } in mathbb{N}$, $y=y_1+y_2$, $z=z_1cdot{}z_2$, $y_1z_1=y_2z_2$, and $1-w ge 0$.



The series appears to have the basic form



$$w = -sum_{i=1}^infty left(frac{x^i}{i!! cdot{} y^i z^{i-1}}right) left(??right)$$



where the term indicated by question marks lacks a recognizable pattern (${-1/z_2, 1, z_1-z_2, (2z_1-z_2)(z_1-2z_2), ldots }$).



By what approach can this series expansion be derived?







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  • In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 16:55


















  • In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 16:55
















In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
– Claude Leibovici
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In my second answer, notice that $frac k{a+1}=frac 1{z_2(y_1+y_2)}$
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The idea seems to be to write (I changed notations to make my life easier)
$$w=sum_{k=1}^n c_k,x^k$$ and to expand
$$(1-w)^{a/b+1} + left(frac{x}{bz}right)(1-w)^{a/b} -1$$ as a Taylor series around $x=0$. Cancelling the coefficients leads to the expressions dor the $c_k$'s.



Doing it, we get
$$ 0=left(-frac{a c_1}{b}-c_1+frac{1}{b z}right)x+frac{ left((a+b) left(a
c_1^2-2 c_2 bright)-frac{2 a c_1}{z}right)}{2 b^2}x^2-frac{ left(6 c_3
b^2 z (a+b)-6 a c_2 b (c_1 z (a+b)-1)+a c_1^2 (a-b) (c_1 z
(a+b)-3)right)}{6 b^3 z}x^3+Oleft(x^4right)$$
from which, using more terms, gives the following
$$left(
begin{array}{cc}
k & c_k \
1 & frac{1}{(a+b) z} \
2 & -frac{a}{2 b (a+b)^2 z^2} \
3 & frac{a (a-b)}{3 b^2 (a+b)^3 z^3} \
4 & -frac{a (a-2 b) (2 a-b)}{8 b^3 (a+b)^4 z^4} \
5 & frac{a (a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b)}{15 b^4 (a+b)^5 z^5} \
6 & -frac{a (a-4 b) (2 a-3 b) (3 a-2 b) (4 a-b)}{144 b^5 (a+b)^6 z^6} \
7 & frac{a (a-5 b) (a-2 b) (a-b) (2 a-b) (5 a-b)}{70 b^6 (a+b)^7 z^7} \
8 & -frac{a (a-6 b) (2 a-5 b) (3 a-4 b) (4 a-3 b) (5 a-2 b) (6 a-b)}{5760 b^7
(a+b)^8 z^8} \
9 & frac{a (a-7 b) (3 a-5 b) (a-3 b) (5 a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b) (7 a-b)}{2835 b^8
(a+b)^9 z^9} \
10 & -frac{a (a-8 b) (2 a-7 b) (4 a-5 b) (5 a-4 b) (a-2 b) (7 a-2 b) (2 a-b) (8
a-b)}{44800 b^9 (a+b)^{10} z^{10}}
end{array}
right)$$






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  • Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 8:24












  • @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 8:29










  • When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 9:20












  • @user001. This is the way !
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    Nov 24 at 9:22


















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I prefer to add another answer since changing quite many things.



Let first $$a=frac {y_1}{y_2}qquad k=frac 1 {y_2,z_2}qquad text{and define} qquad
w=asum_{i=1}^n (-1)^{i-1}, c_i, left(frac{k}{a+1}right)^i x^i $$
Now, much clearer (I think) that in my previous answer, the coefficients are
$$left(
begin{array}{cc}
i & text{coefficient } c_i \
1 & frac{1}{a} \
2 & frac{1}{2} \
3 & frac{1}{3}(a-1) \
4 & frac{1}{8} (a-2) (2 a-1) \
5 & frac{1}{15} (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-1) \
6 & frac{1}{144} (a-4) (2 a-3) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) \
7 & frac{1}{70} (a-5) (a-2) (a-1) (2 a-1) (5 a-1) \
8 & frac{1}{5760} (a-6) (2 a-5) (3 a-4) (4 a-3) (5 a-2) (6 a-1)\
9 & frac{1}{2835}(a-7) (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-5) (3 a-1) (5 a-3) (7 a-1) \
10 & frac{1}{44800}(a-8) (a-2) (2 a-7) (2 a-1) (4 a-5) (5 a-4) (7 a-2) (8 a-1) \
11 &frac{1}{49896}(a-9) (a-4) (a-1) (2 a-3) (3 a-7) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) (7 a-3) (9 a-1)
end{array}
right)$$



Unfortunately, the sequence ${2,3,8,15,144,70,5760,2835,44800,49896}$ or its subsequences do not appear in $OEIS$.



You can notice two different patterns depending on the parity of $i$.






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    The idea seems to be to write (I changed notations to make my life easier)
    $$w=sum_{k=1}^n c_k,x^k$$ and to expand
    $$(1-w)^{a/b+1} + left(frac{x}{bz}right)(1-w)^{a/b} -1$$ as a Taylor series around $x=0$. Cancelling the coefficients leads to the expressions dor the $c_k$'s.



    Doing it, we get
    $$ 0=left(-frac{a c_1}{b}-c_1+frac{1}{b z}right)x+frac{ left((a+b) left(a
    c_1^2-2 c_2 bright)-frac{2 a c_1}{z}right)}{2 b^2}x^2-frac{ left(6 c_3
    b^2 z (a+b)-6 a c_2 b (c_1 z (a+b)-1)+a c_1^2 (a-b) (c_1 z
    (a+b)-3)right)}{6 b^3 z}x^3+Oleft(x^4right)$$
    from which, using more terms, gives the following
    $$left(
    begin{array}{cc}
    k & c_k \
    1 & frac{1}{(a+b) z} \
    2 & -frac{a}{2 b (a+b)^2 z^2} \
    3 & frac{a (a-b)}{3 b^2 (a+b)^3 z^3} \
    4 & -frac{a (a-2 b) (2 a-b)}{8 b^3 (a+b)^4 z^4} \
    5 & frac{a (a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b)}{15 b^4 (a+b)^5 z^5} \
    6 & -frac{a (a-4 b) (2 a-3 b) (3 a-2 b) (4 a-b)}{144 b^5 (a+b)^6 z^6} \
    7 & frac{a (a-5 b) (a-2 b) (a-b) (2 a-b) (5 a-b)}{70 b^6 (a+b)^7 z^7} \
    8 & -frac{a (a-6 b) (2 a-5 b) (3 a-4 b) (4 a-3 b) (5 a-2 b) (6 a-b)}{5760 b^7
    (a+b)^8 z^8} \
    9 & frac{a (a-7 b) (3 a-5 b) (a-3 b) (5 a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b) (7 a-b)}{2835 b^8
    (a+b)^9 z^9} \
    10 & -frac{a (a-8 b) (2 a-7 b) (4 a-5 b) (5 a-4 b) (a-2 b) (7 a-2 b) (2 a-b) (8
    a-b)}{44800 b^9 (a+b)^{10} z^{10}}
    end{array}
    right)$$






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    • Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 8:24












    • @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 8:29










    • When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 9:20












    • @user001. This is the way !
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 9:22















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    The idea seems to be to write (I changed notations to make my life easier)
    $$w=sum_{k=1}^n c_k,x^k$$ and to expand
    $$(1-w)^{a/b+1} + left(frac{x}{bz}right)(1-w)^{a/b} -1$$ as a Taylor series around $x=0$. Cancelling the coefficients leads to the expressions dor the $c_k$'s.



    Doing it, we get
    $$ 0=left(-frac{a c_1}{b}-c_1+frac{1}{b z}right)x+frac{ left((a+b) left(a
    c_1^2-2 c_2 bright)-frac{2 a c_1}{z}right)}{2 b^2}x^2-frac{ left(6 c_3
    b^2 z (a+b)-6 a c_2 b (c_1 z (a+b)-1)+a c_1^2 (a-b) (c_1 z
    (a+b)-3)right)}{6 b^3 z}x^3+Oleft(x^4right)$$
    from which, using more terms, gives the following
    $$left(
    begin{array}{cc}
    k & c_k \
    1 & frac{1}{(a+b) z} \
    2 & -frac{a}{2 b (a+b)^2 z^2} \
    3 & frac{a (a-b)}{3 b^2 (a+b)^3 z^3} \
    4 & -frac{a (a-2 b) (2 a-b)}{8 b^3 (a+b)^4 z^4} \
    5 & frac{a (a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b)}{15 b^4 (a+b)^5 z^5} \
    6 & -frac{a (a-4 b) (2 a-3 b) (3 a-2 b) (4 a-b)}{144 b^5 (a+b)^6 z^6} \
    7 & frac{a (a-5 b) (a-2 b) (a-b) (2 a-b) (5 a-b)}{70 b^6 (a+b)^7 z^7} \
    8 & -frac{a (a-6 b) (2 a-5 b) (3 a-4 b) (4 a-3 b) (5 a-2 b) (6 a-b)}{5760 b^7
    (a+b)^8 z^8} \
    9 & frac{a (a-7 b) (3 a-5 b) (a-3 b) (5 a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b) (7 a-b)}{2835 b^8
    (a+b)^9 z^9} \
    10 & -frac{a (a-8 b) (2 a-7 b) (4 a-5 b) (5 a-4 b) (a-2 b) (7 a-2 b) (2 a-b) (8
    a-b)}{44800 b^9 (a+b)^{10} z^{10}}
    end{array}
    right)$$






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    • Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 8:24












    • @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 8:29










    • When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 9:20












    • @user001. This is the way !
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 9:22













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    The idea seems to be to write (I changed notations to make my life easier)
    $$w=sum_{k=1}^n c_k,x^k$$ and to expand
    $$(1-w)^{a/b+1} + left(frac{x}{bz}right)(1-w)^{a/b} -1$$ as a Taylor series around $x=0$. Cancelling the coefficients leads to the expressions dor the $c_k$'s.



    Doing it, we get
    $$ 0=left(-frac{a c_1}{b}-c_1+frac{1}{b z}right)x+frac{ left((a+b) left(a
    c_1^2-2 c_2 bright)-frac{2 a c_1}{z}right)}{2 b^2}x^2-frac{ left(6 c_3
    b^2 z (a+b)-6 a c_2 b (c_1 z (a+b)-1)+a c_1^2 (a-b) (c_1 z
    (a+b)-3)right)}{6 b^3 z}x^3+Oleft(x^4right)$$
    from which, using more terms, gives the following
    $$left(
    begin{array}{cc}
    k & c_k \
    1 & frac{1}{(a+b) z} \
    2 & -frac{a}{2 b (a+b)^2 z^2} \
    3 & frac{a (a-b)}{3 b^2 (a+b)^3 z^3} \
    4 & -frac{a (a-2 b) (2 a-b)}{8 b^3 (a+b)^4 z^4} \
    5 & frac{a (a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b)}{15 b^4 (a+b)^5 z^5} \
    6 & -frac{a (a-4 b) (2 a-3 b) (3 a-2 b) (4 a-b)}{144 b^5 (a+b)^6 z^6} \
    7 & frac{a (a-5 b) (a-2 b) (a-b) (2 a-b) (5 a-b)}{70 b^6 (a+b)^7 z^7} \
    8 & -frac{a (a-6 b) (2 a-5 b) (3 a-4 b) (4 a-3 b) (5 a-2 b) (6 a-b)}{5760 b^7
    (a+b)^8 z^8} \
    9 & frac{a (a-7 b) (3 a-5 b) (a-3 b) (5 a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b) (7 a-b)}{2835 b^8
    (a+b)^9 z^9} \
    10 & -frac{a (a-8 b) (2 a-7 b) (4 a-5 b) (5 a-4 b) (a-2 b) (7 a-2 b) (2 a-b) (8
    a-b)}{44800 b^9 (a+b)^{10} z^{10}}
    end{array}
    right)$$






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    The idea seems to be to write (I changed notations to make my life easier)
    $$w=sum_{k=1}^n c_k,x^k$$ and to expand
    $$(1-w)^{a/b+1} + left(frac{x}{bz}right)(1-w)^{a/b} -1$$ as a Taylor series around $x=0$. Cancelling the coefficients leads to the expressions dor the $c_k$'s.



    Doing it, we get
    $$ 0=left(-frac{a c_1}{b}-c_1+frac{1}{b z}right)x+frac{ left((a+b) left(a
    c_1^2-2 c_2 bright)-frac{2 a c_1}{z}right)}{2 b^2}x^2-frac{ left(6 c_3
    b^2 z (a+b)-6 a c_2 b (c_1 z (a+b)-1)+a c_1^2 (a-b) (c_1 z
    (a+b)-3)right)}{6 b^3 z}x^3+Oleft(x^4right)$$
    from which, using more terms, gives the following
    $$left(
    begin{array}{cc}
    k & c_k \
    1 & frac{1}{(a+b) z} \
    2 & -frac{a}{2 b (a+b)^2 z^2} \
    3 & frac{a (a-b)}{3 b^2 (a+b)^3 z^3} \
    4 & -frac{a (a-2 b) (2 a-b)}{8 b^3 (a+b)^4 z^4} \
    5 & frac{a (a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b)}{15 b^4 (a+b)^5 z^5} \
    6 & -frac{a (a-4 b) (2 a-3 b) (3 a-2 b) (4 a-b)}{144 b^5 (a+b)^6 z^6} \
    7 & frac{a (a-5 b) (a-2 b) (a-b) (2 a-b) (5 a-b)}{70 b^6 (a+b)^7 z^7} \
    8 & -frac{a (a-6 b) (2 a-5 b) (3 a-4 b) (4 a-3 b) (5 a-2 b) (6 a-b)}{5760 b^7
    (a+b)^8 z^8} \
    9 & frac{a (a-7 b) (3 a-5 b) (a-3 b) (5 a-3 b) (a-b) (3 a-b) (7 a-b)}{2835 b^8
    (a+b)^9 z^9} \
    10 & -frac{a (a-8 b) (2 a-7 b) (4 a-5 b) (5 a-4 b) (a-2 b) (7 a-2 b) (2 a-b) (8
    a-b)}{44800 b^9 (a+b)^{10} z^{10}}
    end{array}
    right)$$







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    • Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 8:24












    • @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 8:29










    • When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 9:20












    • @user001. This is the way !
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 9:22


















    • Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 8:24












    • @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 8:29










    • When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
      – user001
      Nov 24 at 9:20












    • @user001. This is the way !
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 24 at 9:22
















    Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 8:24






    Impressive. I'm not sure that I completely follow your logic, so I proceeded by considering the $1-w$ equation as an implicit function of $x$ such that $w=f(x)$. I then began to construct a Taylor series by implicit differentiation about the point $x=0$. Doing so gave for the $k=1$ term $frac{f^{(1)}(0)}{1!}x = 1/(z(a+b))$, which matches your $c_1$ term; $f^{(1)}(x)=df/dx$ was found to be $frac{1}{bz*(a/b + 1 + ax/(b^2z(1-w)))}$. I was not able to relate this directly to your expression $-ac_1/b - c_1 +1/(bz)$. Would you care to elaborate on how you obtained that intermediate? Many thanks.
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 8:24














    @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 8:29




    @user001. Just replace $w$ by the series and use the binomial expansion. By the way, you are very welcome ! Cheers.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 8:29












    When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 9:20






    When you say to replace $w$ by the series and then to use the binomial expansion, do you mean to apply the generalized binomial expansion ($(1+x)^{alpha} = sum_{k=0}^infty {alpha choose k} x^k$) to $(1 - sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b+1} + frac{x}{bz}(1-sum_{k=1}^n c_k x^k)^{a/b} - 1 = 0$? Merci beaucoup!
    – user001
    Nov 24 at 9:20














    @user001. This is the way !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 9:22




    @user001. This is the way !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Nov 24 at 9:22










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    I prefer to add another answer since changing quite many things.



    Let first $$a=frac {y_1}{y_2}qquad k=frac 1 {y_2,z_2}qquad text{and define} qquad
    w=asum_{i=1}^n (-1)^{i-1}, c_i, left(frac{k}{a+1}right)^i x^i $$
    Now, much clearer (I think) that in my previous answer, the coefficients are
    $$left(
    begin{array}{cc}
    i & text{coefficient } c_i \
    1 & frac{1}{a} \
    2 & frac{1}{2} \
    3 & frac{1}{3}(a-1) \
    4 & frac{1}{8} (a-2) (2 a-1) \
    5 & frac{1}{15} (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-1) \
    6 & frac{1}{144} (a-4) (2 a-3) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) \
    7 & frac{1}{70} (a-5) (a-2) (a-1) (2 a-1) (5 a-1) \
    8 & frac{1}{5760} (a-6) (2 a-5) (3 a-4) (4 a-3) (5 a-2) (6 a-1)\
    9 & frac{1}{2835}(a-7) (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-5) (3 a-1) (5 a-3) (7 a-1) \
    10 & frac{1}{44800}(a-8) (a-2) (2 a-7) (2 a-1) (4 a-5) (5 a-4) (7 a-2) (8 a-1) \
    11 &frac{1}{49896}(a-9) (a-4) (a-1) (2 a-3) (3 a-7) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) (7 a-3) (9 a-1)
    end{array}
    right)$$



    Unfortunately, the sequence ${2,3,8,15,144,70,5760,2835,44800,49896}$ or its subsequences do not appear in $OEIS$.



    You can notice two different patterns depending on the parity of $i$.






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      I prefer to add another answer since changing quite many things.



      Let first $$a=frac {y_1}{y_2}qquad k=frac 1 {y_2,z_2}qquad text{and define} qquad
      w=asum_{i=1}^n (-1)^{i-1}, c_i, left(frac{k}{a+1}right)^i x^i $$
      Now, much clearer (I think) that in my previous answer, the coefficients are
      $$left(
      begin{array}{cc}
      i & text{coefficient } c_i \
      1 & frac{1}{a} \
      2 & frac{1}{2} \
      3 & frac{1}{3}(a-1) \
      4 & frac{1}{8} (a-2) (2 a-1) \
      5 & frac{1}{15} (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-1) \
      6 & frac{1}{144} (a-4) (2 a-3) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) \
      7 & frac{1}{70} (a-5) (a-2) (a-1) (2 a-1) (5 a-1) \
      8 & frac{1}{5760} (a-6) (2 a-5) (3 a-4) (4 a-3) (5 a-2) (6 a-1)\
      9 & frac{1}{2835}(a-7) (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-5) (3 a-1) (5 a-3) (7 a-1) \
      10 & frac{1}{44800}(a-8) (a-2) (2 a-7) (2 a-1) (4 a-5) (5 a-4) (7 a-2) (8 a-1) \
      11 &frac{1}{49896}(a-9) (a-4) (a-1) (2 a-3) (3 a-7) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) (7 a-3) (9 a-1)
      end{array}
      right)$$



      Unfortunately, the sequence ${2,3,8,15,144,70,5760,2835,44800,49896}$ or its subsequences do not appear in $OEIS$.



      You can notice two different patterns depending on the parity of $i$.






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        up vote
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        down vote









        I prefer to add another answer since changing quite many things.



        Let first $$a=frac {y_1}{y_2}qquad k=frac 1 {y_2,z_2}qquad text{and define} qquad
        w=asum_{i=1}^n (-1)^{i-1}, c_i, left(frac{k}{a+1}right)^i x^i $$
        Now, much clearer (I think) that in my previous answer, the coefficients are
        $$left(
        begin{array}{cc}
        i & text{coefficient } c_i \
        1 & frac{1}{a} \
        2 & frac{1}{2} \
        3 & frac{1}{3}(a-1) \
        4 & frac{1}{8} (a-2) (2 a-1) \
        5 & frac{1}{15} (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-1) \
        6 & frac{1}{144} (a-4) (2 a-3) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) \
        7 & frac{1}{70} (a-5) (a-2) (a-1) (2 a-1) (5 a-1) \
        8 & frac{1}{5760} (a-6) (2 a-5) (3 a-4) (4 a-3) (5 a-2) (6 a-1)\
        9 & frac{1}{2835}(a-7) (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-5) (3 a-1) (5 a-3) (7 a-1) \
        10 & frac{1}{44800}(a-8) (a-2) (2 a-7) (2 a-1) (4 a-5) (5 a-4) (7 a-2) (8 a-1) \
        11 &frac{1}{49896}(a-9) (a-4) (a-1) (2 a-3) (3 a-7) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) (7 a-3) (9 a-1)
        end{array}
        right)$$



        Unfortunately, the sequence ${2,3,8,15,144,70,5760,2835,44800,49896}$ or its subsequences do not appear in $OEIS$.



        You can notice two different patterns depending on the parity of $i$.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        I prefer to add another answer since changing quite many things.



        Let first $$a=frac {y_1}{y_2}qquad k=frac 1 {y_2,z_2}qquad text{and define} qquad
        w=asum_{i=1}^n (-1)^{i-1}, c_i, left(frac{k}{a+1}right)^i x^i $$
        Now, much clearer (I think) that in my previous answer, the coefficients are
        $$left(
        begin{array}{cc}
        i & text{coefficient } c_i \
        1 & frac{1}{a} \
        2 & frac{1}{2} \
        3 & frac{1}{3}(a-1) \
        4 & frac{1}{8} (a-2) (2 a-1) \
        5 & frac{1}{15} (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-1) \
        6 & frac{1}{144} (a-4) (2 a-3) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) \
        7 & frac{1}{70} (a-5) (a-2) (a-1) (2 a-1) (5 a-1) \
        8 & frac{1}{5760} (a-6) (2 a-5) (3 a-4) (4 a-3) (5 a-2) (6 a-1)\
        9 & frac{1}{2835}(a-7) (a-3) (a-1) (3 a-5) (3 a-1) (5 a-3) (7 a-1) \
        10 & frac{1}{44800}(a-8) (a-2) (2 a-7) (2 a-1) (4 a-5) (5 a-4) (7 a-2) (8 a-1) \
        11 &frac{1}{49896}(a-9) (a-4) (a-1) (2 a-3) (3 a-7) (3 a-2) (4 a-1) (7 a-3) (9 a-1)
        end{array}
        right)$$



        Unfortunately, the sequence ${2,3,8,15,144,70,5760,2835,44800,49896}$ or its subsequences do not appear in $OEIS$.



        You can notice two different patterns depending on the parity of $i$.







        share|cite|improve this answer














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        answered Nov 24 at 15:12









        Claude Leibovici

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