LR-rule and Standard Young Tableau counting











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given that $s_lambda s_mu=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu s_nu$ with $vert lambdavert +vertmu vert=vert nuvert$, why does apparently also hold that $$h(lambda) h(mu) {vert nuvert choose vert lambda vert}=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu h(nu)$$ where $h(lambda)$ denotes the count of Standard Young Tableaux as given by the hooklength formula? A similar relation, but without the binomial factor, is well known for the semi-standard tableaux. This last one is easily understood by comparing monomials in the schur functions on both sides together with the relation between the weights of the monomials and semi-standard tableaux. For the relation above, I fail to grasp the link.

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    given that $s_lambda s_mu=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu s_nu$ with $vert lambdavert +vertmu vert=vert nuvert$, why does apparently also hold that $$h(lambda) h(mu) {vert nuvert choose vert lambda vert}=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu h(nu)$$ where $h(lambda)$ denotes the count of Standard Young Tableaux as given by the hooklength formula? A similar relation, but without the binomial factor, is well known for the semi-standard tableaux. This last one is easily understood by comparing monomials in the schur functions on both sides together with the relation between the weights of the monomials and semi-standard tableaux. For the relation above, I fail to grasp the link.

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      given that $s_lambda s_mu=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu s_nu$ with $vert lambdavert +vertmu vert=vert nuvert$, why does apparently also hold that $$h(lambda) h(mu) {vert nuvert choose vert lambda vert}=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu h(nu)$$ where $h(lambda)$ denotes the count of Standard Young Tableaux as given by the hooklength formula? A similar relation, but without the binomial factor, is well known for the semi-standard tableaux. This last one is easily understood by comparing monomials in the schur functions on both sides together with the relation between the weights of the monomials and semi-standard tableaux. For the relation above, I fail to grasp the link.

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      given that $s_lambda s_mu=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu s_nu$ with $vert lambdavert +vertmu vert=vert nuvert$, why does apparently also hold that $$h(lambda) h(mu) {vert nuvert choose vert lambda vert}=sum_{nu} C_{lambda mu}^nu h(nu)$$ where $h(lambda)$ denotes the count of Standard Young Tableaux as given by the hooklength formula? A similar relation, but without the binomial factor, is well known for the semi-standard tableaux. This last one is easily understood by comparing monomials in the schur functions on both sides together with the relation between the weights of the monomials and semi-standard tableaux. For the relation above, I fail to grasp the link.

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          Write $r=|lambda|$, $t=|mu|$. Then $|nu|=r+t$ for all the $nu$
          in the sum.



          Consider the relation
          $$s_lambda s_mu=sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu} s_nu.tag{1}$$
          Take the coefficient of $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$ in $(1)$.
          From the right-hand side, this coefficient is
          $$sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu}h(nu).$$
          But there are $binom{r+t}r$ pairs of monomials of degrees $r$ and $t$ that
          multiply to give $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$. As the Schur functions are symmetric
          the coefficient from the LHS is $binom{r+t}r$ times that coefficient
          of $x_1cdots x_r$ in $s_lambda$ times the coefficient of
          of $x_1cdots x_t$ in $s_mu$, that is
          $$binom{r+t}r h(lambda)h(mu).$$






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          • Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
            – Wouter M.
            Nov 27 at 15:51











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          Write $r=|lambda|$, $t=|mu|$. Then $|nu|=r+t$ for all the $nu$
          in the sum.



          Consider the relation
          $$s_lambda s_mu=sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu} s_nu.tag{1}$$
          Take the coefficient of $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$ in $(1)$.
          From the right-hand side, this coefficient is
          $$sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu}h(nu).$$
          But there are $binom{r+t}r$ pairs of monomials of degrees $r$ and $t$ that
          multiply to give $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$. As the Schur functions are symmetric
          the coefficient from the LHS is $binom{r+t}r$ times that coefficient
          of $x_1cdots x_r$ in $s_lambda$ times the coefficient of
          of $x_1cdots x_t$ in $s_mu$, that is
          $$binom{r+t}r h(lambda)h(mu).$$






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          • Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
            – Wouter M.
            Nov 27 at 15:51















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          Write $r=|lambda|$, $t=|mu|$. Then $|nu|=r+t$ for all the $nu$
          in the sum.



          Consider the relation
          $$s_lambda s_mu=sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu} s_nu.tag{1}$$
          Take the coefficient of $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$ in $(1)$.
          From the right-hand side, this coefficient is
          $$sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu}h(nu).$$
          But there are $binom{r+t}r$ pairs of monomials of degrees $r$ and $t$ that
          multiply to give $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$. As the Schur functions are symmetric
          the coefficient from the LHS is $binom{r+t}r$ times that coefficient
          of $x_1cdots x_r$ in $s_lambda$ times the coefficient of
          of $x_1cdots x_t$ in $s_mu$, that is
          $$binom{r+t}r h(lambda)h(mu).$$






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          • Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
            – Wouter M.
            Nov 27 at 15:51













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          Write $r=|lambda|$, $t=|mu|$. Then $|nu|=r+t$ for all the $nu$
          in the sum.



          Consider the relation
          $$s_lambda s_mu=sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu} s_nu.tag{1}$$
          Take the coefficient of $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$ in $(1)$.
          From the right-hand side, this coefficient is
          $$sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu}h(nu).$$
          But there are $binom{r+t}r$ pairs of monomials of degrees $r$ and $t$ that
          multiply to give $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$. As the Schur functions are symmetric
          the coefficient from the LHS is $binom{r+t}r$ times that coefficient
          of $x_1cdots x_r$ in $s_lambda$ times the coefficient of
          of $x_1cdots x_t$ in $s_mu$, that is
          $$binom{r+t}r h(lambda)h(mu).$$






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          Write $r=|lambda|$, $t=|mu|$. Then $|nu|=r+t$ for all the $nu$
          in the sum.



          Consider the relation
          $$s_lambda s_mu=sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu} s_nu.tag{1}$$
          Take the coefficient of $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$ in $(1)$.
          From the right-hand side, this coefficient is
          $$sum_nu C_{nu}^{lambdamu}h(nu).$$
          But there are $binom{r+t}r$ pairs of monomials of degrees $r$ and $t$ that
          multiply to give $x_1x_2cdots x_{r+t}$. As the Schur functions are symmetric
          the coefficient from the LHS is $binom{r+t}r$ times that coefficient
          of $x_1cdots x_r$ in $s_lambda$ times the coefficient of
          of $x_1cdots x_t$ in $s_mu$, that is
          $$binom{r+t}r h(lambda)h(mu).$$







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          • Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
            – Wouter M.
            Nov 27 at 15:51


















          • Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
            – Wouter M.
            Nov 27 at 15:51
















          Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
          – Wouter M.
          Nov 27 at 15:51




          Lesson taken away: SYT are just special cases of SSYT that have their weights all 1. Nice ...
          – Wouter M.
          Nov 27 at 15:51


















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