Solutions from $sqrt{z^2}=z$ [closed]
Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?
Can anyone help?
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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?
Can anyone help?
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closed as off-topic by Brahadeesh, Did, Alexander Gruber♦ Nov 30 at 3:09
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You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35
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Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?
Can anyone help?
complex-analysis
Let $sqrt{}:mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]rightarrowmathbb{C},sqrt{z}=exp(frac{1}{2}Log(z))$ be the main branch of the sqaure root and Log(z) the main branch of the logarithm. For which values $zinmathbb{C}$ applies $sqrt{z^2}=z$?
Can anyone help?
complex-analysis
complex-analysis
edited Nov 29 at 19:38
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You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35
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You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35
You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35
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Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then
$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.
Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:
First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)
Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.
Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.
Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.
Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.
Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.
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1 Answer
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Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then
$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.
Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:
First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)
Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.
Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.
Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.
Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.
Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.
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Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then
$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.
Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:
First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)
Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.
Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.
Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.
Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.
Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.
add a comment |
Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then
$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.
Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:
First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)
Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.
Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.
Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.
Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.
Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.
Hint: Show first that if $winBbb Csetminus (-infty,0]$ and $zinBbb C$ then
$sqrt w=z$ if and only if $z^2=w$ and $z$ has positive real part.
Since it's been suggested that there's some problem with this, here's a proof:
First note that by definition $sqrt w=sqrt re^{it/2}$ if $w=re^{it}$ with $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$. (The constraint on $t$ follows from the definition of the principal value (or "main branch" in the OP) logarithm.)
Suppose first that $w=z^2$ and $z$ has positive real part. Then $z=re^{it}$ where $r>0$ and $-pi/2<t<pi/2$. Now $w=r^2e^{2it}$, and since $-pi<2t<pi$ this shows that $sqrt{w}=re^{it}=z$.
Conversely, if $z=sqrt w$ then certainly $w=z^2$; also $z=sqrt re^{it/2}$, where $r>0$ and $-pi<t<pi$; hence $-pi/2<t/2<pi/2$, so $z$ has postive real part.
Cor. $sqrt{z^2}=z$ if and only if $Re z>0$.
Proof. Note first that if $Re z=0$ then $sqrt{z^2}$ is undefined. Assume $Re zne0$. Let $s=sqrt{z^2}$.
Now $s^2=z^2$, so $s=pm z$. Above we've shown that $Re s>0$, so if $s=z$ then $Re z>0$.
Conversely, if $Re z>0$ then $sne -z$ since $Re s>0$, hence $s=z$.
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answered Nov 29 at 17:40
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You have defined $sqrt z$ only for $z in mathbb{C}setminus(-infty,0]$, therefore $sqrt{z^2}$ is not defined for $z=i$ (or any purely imaginary number $z$).
– Martin R
Nov 29 at 17:32
Maybe you didn't notice - a second answer has appeared.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:06
@MartinR You posted a comment just now to g's answer. How'd you do that? I can't comment on that post since it's deleted (hence I can't comment that "the usual conventions" regarding $sqrt{}$ are irrelevant, since $sqrt{}$ was defined to be a certain (single-valued) function at the start of the question.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 29 at 19:35