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Does Macaulay2 compute contractions of ideals under ring homomorphisms. Specifically, if $Rsubseteq S$ is a ring extension (say polynomial rings over $mathbb{Q}$ which can be specified in M2) and $I$ is an ideal in $S$ given by generators, is there a command to compute $Icap R$?



EDIT: The eliminate command is supposed to do what I want, except when I use it the output is an ideal in the original ring.










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      EDIT: The eliminate command is supposed to do what I want, except when I use it the output is an ideal in the original ring.










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      Does Macaulay2 compute contractions of ideals under ring homomorphisms. Specifically, if $Rsubseteq S$ is a ring extension (say polynomial rings over $mathbb{Q}$ which can be specified in M2) and $I$ is an ideal in $S$ given by generators, is there a command to compute $Icap R$?



      EDIT: The eliminate command is supposed to do what I want, except when I use it the output is an ideal in the original ring.







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          You could set f=map(S/I,R) and obtain the intersection as ker(f).






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