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Let $T(x,y)=(x,3x-y)$ be a linear operator on $R^2$ and let $f(x)=x^2-4$. Find $f(T)$



I'm very new to this and I'm stuck on what it's asking for. I'm guessing I make a matrix from the transformation and then use $rref$. I'm not sure where to go from there. Any guidance is appreciated.



I took matrix A and squared it and it returned the identity matrix. I then subtracted 4 times the identity matrix and got just (-3x, -3y). Can someone clarify what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks










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Let $T(x,y)=(x,3x-y)$ be a linear operator on $R^2$ and let $f(x)=x^2-4$. Find $f(T)$



I'm very new to this and I'm stuck on what it's asking for. I'm guessing I make a matrix from the transformation and then use $rref$. I'm not sure where to go from there. Any guidance is appreciated.



I took matrix A and squared it and it returned the identity matrix. I then subtracted 4 times the identity matrix and got just (-3x, -3y). Can someone clarify what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks










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Let $T(x,y)=(x,3x-y)$ be a linear operator on $R^2$ and let $f(x)=x^2-4$. Find $f(T)$



I'm very new to this and I'm stuck on what it's asking for. I'm guessing I make a matrix from the transformation and then use $rref$. I'm not sure where to go from there. Any guidance is appreciated.



I took matrix A and squared it and it returned the identity matrix. I then subtracted 4 times the identity matrix and got just (-3x, -3y). Can someone clarify what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks










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Let $T(x,y)=(x,3x-y)$ be a linear operator on $R^2$ and let $f(x)=x^2-4$. Find $f(T)$



I'm very new to this and I'm stuck on what it's asking for. I'm guessing I make a matrix from the transformation and then use $rref$. I'm not sure where to go from there. Any guidance is appreciated.



I took matrix A and squared it and it returned the identity matrix. I then subtracted 4 times the identity matrix and got just (-3x, -3y). Can someone clarify what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks







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$T$ is realized by the matrix



$M =begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ 3 & -1 \ end{bmatrix}$.



Then compute $M^2-4I$. Can you proceed ?






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    Thanks. I"m getting (-3x, -3y) by doing this but above says it should be (-3x, 6x-5y) . What am i missing?
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Alternatively, since $f(x)= x^2- 4$, $f(T)(vec{x})= T^2(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$ where $T^2$ is the composition of T with itself: $f(t)= T(T(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$. $T(vec{x})= T(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x- yend{bmatrix}$ so $T^2(vec{x})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x+ (3x- y)end{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}$.



So $fleft(Tleft(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix}right)right)= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}- begin{bmatrix}4x \ 4yend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}-3x \ 6x- 5yend{bmatrix}$.






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    Then compute $M^2-4I$. Can you proceed ?






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    $T$ is realized by the matrix



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    Then compute $M^2-4I$. Can you proceed ?






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    Alternatively, since $f(x)= x^2- 4$, $f(T)(vec{x})= T^2(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$ where $T^2$ is the composition of T with itself: $f(t)= T(T(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$. $T(vec{x})= T(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x- yend{bmatrix}$ so $T^2(vec{x})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x+ (3x- y)end{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}$.



    So $fleft(Tleft(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix}right)right)= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}- begin{bmatrix}4x \ 4yend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}-3x \ 6x- 5yend{bmatrix}$.






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      Alternatively, since $f(x)= x^2- 4$, $f(T)(vec{x})= T^2(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$ where $T^2$ is the composition of T with itself: $f(t)= T(T(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$. $T(vec{x})= T(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x- yend{bmatrix}$ so $T^2(vec{x})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x+ (3x- y)end{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}$.



      So $fleft(Tleft(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix}right)right)= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}- begin{bmatrix}4x \ 4yend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}-3x \ 6x- 5yend{bmatrix}$.






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        Alternatively, since $f(x)= x^2- 4$, $f(T)(vec{x})= T^2(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$ where $T^2$ is the composition of T with itself: $f(t)= T(T(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$. $T(vec{x})= T(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x- yend{bmatrix}$ so $T^2(vec{x})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x+ (3x- y)end{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}$.



        So $fleft(Tleft(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix}right)right)= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}- begin{bmatrix}4x \ 4yend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}-3x \ 6x- 5yend{bmatrix}$.






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        Alternatively, since $f(x)= x^2- 4$, $f(T)(vec{x})= T^2(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$ where $T^2$ is the composition of T with itself: $f(t)= T(T(vec{x})+ 4vec{x}$. $T(vec{x})= T(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x- yend{bmatrix}$ so $T^2(vec{x})= begin{bmatrix}x \ 3x+ (3x- y)end{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}$.



        So $fleft(Tleft(begin{bmatrix}x \ y end{bmatrix}right)right)= begin{bmatrix}x \ 6x- yend{bmatrix}- begin{bmatrix}4x \ 4yend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}-3x \ 6x- 5yend{bmatrix}$.







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