Proving $int_{-1}^1 frac{(f(x))^2}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx gt 0$












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I was supposed to show that $$langle f,g rangle = int_{-1}^1 frac{f(x)g(x)}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx$$ is an inner product. The question basically said to prove symmetry, bilinearity, and that $langle f,f rangle gt 0$ where $f ne 0$.



Now, I have already shown symmetry and bilinearity. However, I am stuck with the last part. I would have to prove that $$int_{-1}^1 frac{(f(x))^2}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx gt 0$$ but I have no clue how to do that. Could someone explain where should I start? Thanks.






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  • Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
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I was supposed to show that $$langle f,g rangle = int_{-1}^1 frac{f(x)g(x)}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx$$ is an inner product. The question basically said to prove symmetry, bilinearity, and that $langle f,f rangle gt 0$ where $f ne 0$.



Now, I have already shown symmetry and bilinearity. However, I am stuck with the last part. I would have to prove that $$int_{-1}^1 frac{(f(x))^2}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx gt 0$$ but I have no clue how to do that. Could someone explain where should I start? Thanks.






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  • Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
    – Dzoooks
    Nov 30 at 4:43














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I was supposed to show that $$langle f,g rangle = int_{-1}^1 frac{f(x)g(x)}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx$$ is an inner product. The question basically said to prove symmetry, bilinearity, and that $langle f,f rangle gt 0$ where $f ne 0$.



Now, I have already shown symmetry and bilinearity. However, I am stuck with the last part. I would have to prove that $$int_{-1}^1 frac{(f(x))^2}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx gt 0$$ but I have no clue how to do that. Could someone explain where should I start? Thanks.






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I was supposed to show that $$langle f,g rangle = int_{-1}^1 frac{f(x)g(x)}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx$$ is an inner product. The question basically said to prove symmetry, bilinearity, and that $langle f,f rangle gt 0$ where $f ne 0$.



Now, I have already shown symmetry and bilinearity. However, I am stuck with the last part. I would have to prove that $$int_{-1}^1 frac{(f(x))^2}{sqrt{(1-x^2)}} dx gt 0$$ but I have no clue how to do that. Could someone explain where should I start? Thanks.






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  • Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
    – Dzoooks
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  • Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
    – Dzoooks
    Nov 30 at 4:43
















Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
– Dzoooks
Nov 30 at 4:43




Note that the integrand is positive. When it exists, the Riemann integral is positive definite.
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You're overthinking! If we assume the integral exists, then $f^2(x)geq0$ and $sqrt{1-x^2}geq0$ for all $xin[-1,1]$. Since we assume that $f$ is not identically $0$, then this integral is of a positive function and the integral is positive.






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    Hint: The integral of a positive function is positive.






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      I am curious why there is a downvote?
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    Assume that $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere and $E$ is a set of positive measure, that is, $m(E) > 0$. Suppose, by way of contradiction, that $int_E g(x) dx leq 0$. Let $E_n = {x in E: g(x) > 1/n }$. Then $E = cup_{k=1}^infty E_k$ and since $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere, there exists an $n$ such that $m(E_n)>0$. Hence,



    $int_E g(x) dx geq int_{E_n} g(x) dx > frac{1}{n} m(E_n) > 0 $ ,



    a contradiction.






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      You're overthinking! If we assume the integral exists, then $f^2(x)geq0$ and $sqrt{1-x^2}geq0$ for all $xin[-1,1]$. Since we assume that $f$ is not identically $0$, then this integral is of a positive function and the integral is positive.






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        You're overthinking! If we assume the integral exists, then $f^2(x)geq0$ and $sqrt{1-x^2}geq0$ for all $xin[-1,1]$. Since we assume that $f$ is not identically $0$, then this integral is of a positive function and the integral is positive.






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          You're overthinking! If we assume the integral exists, then $f^2(x)geq0$ and $sqrt{1-x^2}geq0$ for all $xin[-1,1]$. Since we assume that $f$ is not identically $0$, then this integral is of a positive function and the integral is positive.






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          You're overthinking! If we assume the integral exists, then $f^2(x)geq0$ and $sqrt{1-x^2}geq0$ for all $xin[-1,1]$. Since we assume that $f$ is not identically $0$, then this integral is of a positive function and the integral is positive.







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              Hint: The integral of a positive function is positive.






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                I am curious why there is a downvote?
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              Hint: The integral of a positive function is positive.






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              Hint: The integral of a positive function is positive.






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              Hint: The integral of a positive function is positive.







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                I am curious why there is a downvote?
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                I am curious why there is a downvote?
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              I am curious why there is a downvote?
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              I am curious why there is a downvote?
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              Assume that $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere and $E$ is a set of positive measure, that is, $m(E) > 0$. Suppose, by way of contradiction, that $int_E g(x) dx leq 0$. Let $E_n = {x in E: g(x) > 1/n }$. Then $E = cup_{k=1}^infty E_k$ and since $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere, there exists an $n$ such that $m(E_n)>0$. Hence,



              $int_E g(x) dx geq int_{E_n} g(x) dx > frac{1}{n} m(E_n) > 0 $ ,



              a contradiction.






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                Assume that $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere and $E$ is a set of positive measure, that is, $m(E) > 0$. Suppose, by way of contradiction, that $int_E g(x) dx leq 0$. Let $E_n = {x in E: g(x) > 1/n }$. Then $E = cup_{k=1}^infty E_k$ and since $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere, there exists an $n$ such that $m(E_n)>0$. Hence,



                $int_E g(x) dx geq int_{E_n} g(x) dx > frac{1}{n} m(E_n) > 0 $ ,



                a contradiction.






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                  Assume that $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere and $E$ is a set of positive measure, that is, $m(E) > 0$. Suppose, by way of contradiction, that $int_E g(x) dx leq 0$. Let $E_n = {x in E: g(x) > 1/n }$. Then $E = cup_{k=1}^infty E_k$ and since $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere, there exists an $n$ such that $m(E_n)>0$. Hence,



                  $int_E g(x) dx geq int_{E_n} g(x) dx > frac{1}{n} m(E_n) > 0 $ ,



                  a contradiction.






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                  Assume that $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere and $E$ is a set of positive measure, that is, $m(E) > 0$. Suppose, by way of contradiction, that $int_E g(x) dx leq 0$. Let $E_n = {x in E: g(x) > 1/n }$. Then $E = cup_{k=1}^infty E_k$ and since $g(x) > 0$ almost everywhere, there exists an $n$ such that $m(E_n)>0$. Hence,



                  $int_E g(x) dx geq int_{E_n} g(x) dx > frac{1}{n} m(E_n) > 0 $ ,



                  a contradiction.







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