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I understand most of the concept for set and subsets however, I do not understand the logic here.



Question : Consider the set S = {a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j}. How many 4-element subsets of S contain neither a nor b?



Solution: 4 elements to choose out of 8 = 70



I don't know where does the 4 comes from...










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    $4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
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  • Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
    – Laura1999
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  • Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
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I understand most of the concept for set and subsets however, I do not understand the logic here.



Question : Consider the set S = {a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j}. How many 4-element subsets of S contain neither a nor b?



Solution: 4 elements to choose out of 8 = 70



I don't know where does the 4 comes from...










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    $4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
    – G Cab
    Nov 28 at 23:31












  • Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
    – Laura1999
    Nov 28 at 23:39










  • Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
    – N. F. Taussig
    Nov 28 at 23:47














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I understand most of the concept for set and subsets however, I do not understand the logic here.



Question : Consider the set S = {a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j}. How many 4-element subsets of S contain neither a nor b?



Solution: 4 elements to choose out of 8 = 70



I don't know where does the 4 comes from...










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I understand most of the concept for set and subsets however, I do not understand the logic here.



Question : Consider the set S = {a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j}. How many 4-element subsets of S contain neither a nor b?



Solution: 4 elements to choose out of 8 = 70



I don't know where does the 4 comes from...







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  • 4




    $4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
    – G Cab
    Nov 28 at 23:31












  • Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
    – Laura1999
    Nov 28 at 23:39










  • Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
    – N. F. Taussig
    Nov 28 at 23:47














  • 4




    $4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
    – G Cab
    Nov 28 at 23:31












  • Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
    – Laura1999
    Nov 28 at 23:39










  • Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
    – N. F. Taussig
    Nov 28 at 23:47








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$4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
– G Cab
Nov 28 at 23:31






$4$ comes from the "..4-element subset .." and $8$ from $10$ elements ninus the $2$ excluded
– G Cab
Nov 28 at 23:31














Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
– Laura1999
Nov 28 at 23:39




Ho yeah sorry it's my mistake!
– Laura1999
Nov 28 at 23:39












Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 28 at 23:47




Enumeration problems should be tagged combinatorics rather than probability.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 28 at 23:47










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Combination formula
$$C_{p}^{n} = frac{A_{p}^{n}}{p!} = frac{n!}{p!(n-p)!}$$
In your situation $p$ is the $4$ element subset, you replace each unknown in the general formula by its value and you get $70$ as an answer.






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    Combination formula
    $$C_{p}^{n} = frac{A_{p}^{n}}{p!} = frac{n!}{p!(n-p)!}$$
    In your situation $p$ is the $4$ element subset, you replace each unknown in the general formula by its value and you get $70$ as an answer.






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      Combination formula
      $$C_{p}^{n} = frac{A_{p}^{n}}{p!} = frac{n!}{p!(n-p)!}$$
      In your situation $p$ is the $4$ element subset, you replace each unknown in the general formula by its value and you get $70$ as an answer.






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        Combination formula
        $$C_{p}^{n} = frac{A_{p}^{n}}{p!} = frac{n!}{p!(n-p)!}$$
        In your situation $p$ is the $4$ element subset, you replace each unknown in the general formula by its value and you get $70$ as an answer.






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        Combination formula
        $$C_{p}^{n} = frac{A_{p}^{n}}{p!} = frac{n!}{p!(n-p)!}$$
        In your situation $p$ is the $4$ element subset, you replace each unknown in the general formula by its value and you get $70$ as an answer.







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