The $n$-th root of $2$ is irrational for $n>1$, and $lim_{ntoinfty}sqrt[n]{2}=1$. Is the latter fact a...












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So I was looking at a theorem that popped up into my head:




The $n$-th root of $2$ always being irrational if $n$ is greater than $1$.




I also noticed that




The limit of the $n$-th root of $2$, as $n$ approaches infinity, is $1$.




Is there a connection between this "$n$-th root of $2$ Theorem" and the limit I mentioned?




Can I consider that limit a corollary to the theorem?











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    Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
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  • If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
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So I was looking at a theorem that popped up into my head:




The $n$-th root of $2$ always being irrational if $n$ is greater than $1$.




I also noticed that




The limit of the $n$-th root of $2$, as $n$ approaches infinity, is $1$.




Is there a connection between this "$n$-th root of $2$ Theorem" and the limit I mentioned?




Can I consider that limit a corollary to the theorem?











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    Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
    – T. Bongers
    Nov 28 at 23:35










  • If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
    – kingW3
    Nov 28 at 23:40












  • Just so I know, how do I keep the revisions? It sounds stupid, but it wouldn't let me keep the revisions that were made.
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:18










  • Also, how do you make the formulas?
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:19










  • We use MathJax to typeset formulas. A tutorial is here. To see the edit history you can click on the "edited xxx ago" in the center bottom of the post.
    – Ross Millikan
    Nov 29 at 0:39














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So I was looking at a theorem that popped up into my head:




The $n$-th root of $2$ always being irrational if $n$ is greater than $1$.




I also noticed that




The limit of the $n$-th root of $2$, as $n$ approaches infinity, is $1$.




Is there a connection between this "$n$-th root of $2$ Theorem" and the limit I mentioned?




Can I consider that limit a corollary to the theorem?











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So I was looking at a theorem that popped up into my head:




The $n$-th root of $2$ always being irrational if $n$ is greater than $1$.




I also noticed that




The limit of the $n$-th root of $2$, as $n$ approaches infinity, is $1$.




Is there a connection between this "$n$-th root of $2$ Theorem" and the limit I mentioned?




Can I consider that limit a corollary to the theorem?








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    Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
    – T. Bongers
    Nov 28 at 23:35










  • If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
    – kingW3
    Nov 28 at 23:40












  • Just so I know, how do I keep the revisions? It sounds stupid, but it wouldn't let me keep the revisions that were made.
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:18










  • Also, how do you make the formulas?
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:19










  • We use MathJax to typeset formulas. A tutorial is here. To see the edit history you can click on the "edited xxx ago" in the center bottom of the post.
    – Ross Millikan
    Nov 29 at 0:39














  • 3




    Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
    – T. Bongers
    Nov 28 at 23:35










  • If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
    – kingW3
    Nov 28 at 23:40












  • Just so I know, how do I keep the revisions? It sounds stupid, but it wouldn't let me keep the revisions that were made.
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:18










  • Also, how do you make the formulas?
    – Xavier Stanton
    Nov 29 at 0:19










  • We use MathJax to typeset formulas. A tutorial is here. To see the edit history you can click on the "edited xxx ago" in the center bottom of the post.
    – Ross Millikan
    Nov 29 at 0:39








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Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
– T. Bongers
Nov 28 at 23:35




Not really, no. Irrationality doesn't tend to interact well with limits; perhaps there' something more specific you have in mind.
– T. Bongers
Nov 28 at 23:35












If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
– kingW3
Nov 28 at 23:40






If $n$ is irrational then the nth root of $2$ can be rational.
– kingW3
Nov 28 at 23:40














Just so I know, how do I keep the revisions? It sounds stupid, but it wouldn't let me keep the revisions that were made.
– Xavier Stanton
Nov 29 at 0:18




Just so I know, how do I keep the revisions? It sounds stupid, but it wouldn't let me keep the revisions that were made.
– Xavier Stanton
Nov 29 at 0:18












Also, how do you make the formulas?
– Xavier Stanton
Nov 29 at 0:19




Also, how do you make the formulas?
– Xavier Stanton
Nov 29 at 0:19












We use MathJax to typeset formulas. A tutorial is here. To see the edit history you can click on the "edited xxx ago" in the center bottom of the post.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 29 at 0:39




We use MathJax to typeset formulas. A tutorial is here. To see the edit history you can click on the "edited xxx ago" in the center bottom of the post.
– Ross Millikan
Nov 29 at 0:39










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As far as I understand your question, no. The sequence



$$2sqrt{2},2root3of2,2root4of2,cdots$$



(multiplying every term of your nth-root-of-$2$ sequence by $2$) contains only irrational terms and tends to $2$, while the sequence



$$1+1,1+frac{1}{2},1+frac{1}{3},cdots$$



contains only rational terms and tends to $1$. The two properties (containing irrational terms and tending to 1) have nothing to do with one another.






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    The two things are not related, for the limit indeed we have that



    $$sqrt[n] 2=e^{frac{log 2}n}to 1$$



    since $frac{log 2}nto 0$, and the result is not related to any hypotesis about the irrationality of $sqrt[n] 2$.






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      The $n^{th}$ root of any positive number tends toward $1$ as $n to infty$. This is regardless of whether the roots are rational or irrational. For any given positive number there will only be a finite number of rational roots, but it can be arbitrarily large. Find some $k$ with many factors, like one of the highly composite numbers. Now form $1.01^k$. That will have as many rational roots as $k$ has factors.






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      As far as I understand your question, no. The sequence



      $$2sqrt{2},2root3of2,2root4of2,cdots$$



      (multiplying every term of your nth-root-of-$2$ sequence by $2$) contains only irrational terms and tends to $2$, while the sequence



      $$1+1,1+frac{1}{2},1+frac{1}{3},cdots$$



      contains only rational terms and tends to $1$. The two properties (containing irrational terms and tending to 1) have nothing to do with one another.






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        As far as I understand your question, no. The sequence



        $$2sqrt{2},2root3of2,2root4of2,cdots$$



        (multiplying every term of your nth-root-of-$2$ sequence by $2$) contains only irrational terms and tends to $2$, while the sequence



        $$1+1,1+frac{1}{2},1+frac{1}{3},cdots$$



        contains only rational terms and tends to $1$. The two properties (containing irrational terms and tending to 1) have nothing to do with one another.






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          As far as I understand your question, no. The sequence



          $$2sqrt{2},2root3of2,2root4of2,cdots$$



          (multiplying every term of your nth-root-of-$2$ sequence by $2$) contains only irrational terms and tends to $2$, while the sequence



          $$1+1,1+frac{1}{2},1+frac{1}{3},cdots$$



          contains only rational terms and tends to $1$. The two properties (containing irrational terms and tending to 1) have nothing to do with one another.






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          As far as I understand your question, no. The sequence



          $$2sqrt{2},2root3of2,2root4of2,cdots$$



          (multiplying every term of your nth-root-of-$2$ sequence by $2$) contains only irrational terms and tends to $2$, while the sequence



          $$1+1,1+frac{1}{2},1+frac{1}{3},cdots$$



          contains only rational terms and tends to $1$. The two properties (containing irrational terms and tending to 1) have nothing to do with one another.







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              The two things are not related, for the limit indeed we have that



              $$sqrt[n] 2=e^{frac{log 2}n}to 1$$



              since $frac{log 2}nto 0$, and the result is not related to any hypotesis about the irrationality of $sqrt[n] 2$.






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                The two things are not related, for the limit indeed we have that



                $$sqrt[n] 2=e^{frac{log 2}n}to 1$$



                since $frac{log 2}nto 0$, and the result is not related to any hypotesis about the irrationality of $sqrt[n] 2$.






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                  The two things are not related, for the limit indeed we have that



                  $$sqrt[n] 2=e^{frac{log 2}n}to 1$$



                  since $frac{log 2}nto 0$, and the result is not related to any hypotesis about the irrationality of $sqrt[n] 2$.






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                  The two things are not related, for the limit indeed we have that



                  $$sqrt[n] 2=e^{frac{log 2}n}to 1$$



                  since $frac{log 2}nto 0$, and the result is not related to any hypotesis about the irrationality of $sqrt[n] 2$.







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                      The $n^{th}$ root of any positive number tends toward $1$ as $n to infty$. This is regardless of whether the roots are rational or irrational. For any given positive number there will only be a finite number of rational roots, but it can be arbitrarily large. Find some $k$ with many factors, like one of the highly composite numbers. Now form $1.01^k$. That will have as many rational roots as $k$ has factors.






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                      The $n^{th}$ root of any positive number tends toward $1$ as $n to infty$. This is regardless of whether the roots are rational or irrational. For any given positive number there will only be a finite number of rational roots, but it can be arbitrarily large. Find some $k$ with many factors, like one of the highly composite numbers. Now form $1.01^k$. That will have as many rational roots as $k$ has factors.






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                      The $n^{th}$ root of any positive number tends toward $1$ as $n to infty$. This is regardless of whether the roots are rational or irrational. For any given positive number there will only be a finite number of rational roots, but it can be arbitrarily large. Find some $k$ with many factors, like one of the highly composite numbers. Now form $1.01^k$. That will have as many rational roots as $k$ has factors.






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                      The $n^{th}$ root of any positive number tends toward $1$ as $n to infty$. This is regardless of whether the roots are rational or irrational. For any given positive number there will only be a finite number of rational roots, but it can be arbitrarily large. Find some $k$ with many factors, like one of the highly composite numbers. Now form $1.01^k$. That will have as many rational roots as $k$ has factors.







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