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How would one prove that the function $f(p)=p[(1+i)^p-1]$ is strictly decreasing? Here $i>-1$.



I've tried the usual approach, i.e. finding the derivative of $f$ and got a pretty terrible expression $$f'(p)=(1+i)^{1/p}(1-frac 1p log(1+i))-1$$ and I cannot find where the derivative is positive and where it's negative?



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      I've tried the usual approach, i.e. finding the derivative of $f$ and got a pretty terrible expression $$f'(p)=(1+i)^{1/p}(1-frac 1p log(1+i))-1$$ and I cannot find where the derivative is positive and where it's negative?



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      How would one prove that the function $f(p)=p[(1+i)^p-1]$ is strictly decreasing? Here $i>-1$.



      I've tried the usual approach, i.e. finding the derivative of $f$ and got a pretty terrible expression $$f'(p)=(1+i)^{1/p}(1-frac 1p log(1+i))-1$$ and I cannot find where the derivative is positive and where it's negative?



      Any help would be appreciated.







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          If $h$ is increasing and $g$ is increasing, then $hcdot g$ is increasing if for all $x$, $h(x),g(x)> 0$. Indeed, if $x> y$, we have $h(x)cdot g(x)>h(y)cdot g(y)$ by the increasing properties.

          Similarly, if $h$ is increasing and positive and $g$ is decreasing and negative, then $hcdot g$ is decreasing by looking at it as $-(hcdot -g)$ since $-g$ would be positive and increasing.



          Assume now for the moment that we are working on the domains $(0,infty)$ and take $h(p) = p$ and $g(p) = (1+i)^p - 1$.



          If $i>0$, $g$ is increasing and positive. Thus $hcdot g$ will be increasing. If $-1>i>0$, $g$ is decreasing and negative and thus $hcdot g$ will be decreasing. If $i=0$, $g$ is zero and thus $hcdot g$ will be zero.






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            If $h$ is increasing and $g$ is increasing, then $hcdot g$ is increasing if for all $x$, $h(x),g(x)> 0$. Indeed, if $x> y$, we have $h(x)cdot g(x)>h(y)cdot g(y)$ by the increasing properties.

            Similarly, if $h$ is increasing and positive and $g$ is decreasing and negative, then $hcdot g$ is decreasing by looking at it as $-(hcdot -g)$ since $-g$ would be positive and increasing.



            Assume now for the moment that we are working on the domains $(0,infty)$ and take $h(p) = p$ and $g(p) = (1+i)^p - 1$.



            If $i>0$, $g$ is increasing and positive. Thus $hcdot g$ will be increasing. If $-1>i>0$, $g$ is decreasing and negative and thus $hcdot g$ will be decreasing. If $i=0$, $g$ is zero and thus $hcdot g$ will be zero.






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              If $h$ is increasing and $g$ is increasing, then $hcdot g$ is increasing if for all $x$, $h(x),g(x)> 0$. Indeed, if $x> y$, we have $h(x)cdot g(x)>h(y)cdot g(y)$ by the increasing properties.

              Similarly, if $h$ is increasing and positive and $g$ is decreasing and negative, then $hcdot g$ is decreasing by looking at it as $-(hcdot -g)$ since $-g$ would be positive and increasing.



              Assume now for the moment that we are working on the domains $(0,infty)$ and take $h(p) = p$ and $g(p) = (1+i)^p - 1$.



              If $i>0$, $g$ is increasing and positive. Thus $hcdot g$ will be increasing. If $-1>i>0$, $g$ is decreasing and negative and thus $hcdot g$ will be decreasing. If $i=0$, $g$ is zero and thus $hcdot g$ will be zero.






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                If $h$ is increasing and $g$ is increasing, then $hcdot g$ is increasing if for all $x$, $h(x),g(x)> 0$. Indeed, if $x> y$, we have $h(x)cdot g(x)>h(y)cdot g(y)$ by the increasing properties.

                Similarly, if $h$ is increasing and positive and $g$ is decreasing and negative, then $hcdot g$ is decreasing by looking at it as $-(hcdot -g)$ since $-g$ would be positive and increasing.



                Assume now for the moment that we are working on the domains $(0,infty)$ and take $h(p) = p$ and $g(p) = (1+i)^p - 1$.



                If $i>0$, $g$ is increasing and positive. Thus $hcdot g$ will be increasing. If $-1>i>0$, $g$ is decreasing and negative and thus $hcdot g$ will be decreasing. If $i=0$, $g$ is zero and thus $hcdot g$ will be zero.






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                If $h$ is increasing and $g$ is increasing, then $hcdot g$ is increasing if for all $x$, $h(x),g(x)> 0$. Indeed, if $x> y$, we have $h(x)cdot g(x)>h(y)cdot g(y)$ by the increasing properties.

                Similarly, if $h$ is increasing and positive and $g$ is decreasing and negative, then $hcdot g$ is decreasing by looking at it as $-(hcdot -g)$ since $-g$ would be positive and increasing.



                Assume now for the moment that we are working on the domains $(0,infty)$ and take $h(p) = p$ and $g(p) = (1+i)^p - 1$.



                If $i>0$, $g$ is increasing and positive. Thus $hcdot g$ will be increasing. If $-1>i>0$, $g$ is decreasing and negative and thus $hcdot g$ will be decreasing. If $i=0$, $g$ is zero and thus $hcdot g$ will be zero.







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