Conditions for property of function $Bbb Z/mBbb Z to Bbb Z/nBbb Z$
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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The second two expressions
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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– Christoph
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The second two expressions
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@4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT, which book this question?
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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– Christoph
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The second two expressions
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@4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT, which book this question?
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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– Christoph
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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– Christoph
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The second two expressions
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
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The second two expressions
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
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@4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT, which book this question?
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– Mustafa
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The remainder when you divide $0$ by $n$ is $0$ so $varphi(0) = 0$. You know that $m equiv 0 mod m$ so $varphi(m)=0$. Now you just write $m$ as $1+_mldots+_m 1$ ($m$ times) so you have $varphi(1+_mldots+_m 1) = 0$. Assuming the homomorphism property you get $varphi(1) +_n ldots +_n varphi(1)=0$. Since dividing 1 by $n$ you always get a remainder of $1$ as long as $n>1$, $varphi(1) = 1$. That means that $1 +_n ldots +_n 1 = 0$. This sum is in the group $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ but we still have $m$ summands so this says that the $m equiv 0 mod n$ which means $m$ must be a multiple of $n$.
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Remember that in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$, $underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n}=0$. If you want $varphi(k+_m l)=varphi(k)+_nvarphi(l)$ (because you want a group homomorphism), in particular you need it for $k=l=1$. The reminder of devision of $1$ by any number greater than $1$ is again $1$, so that is where the equation
$$0=varphi(0)=varphi(underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n})=underbrace{1+_mcdots +_m1}_{n}$$
comes frome. Adding $1$'s in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ only sum up to $0$ if the times you add $1$ is a multiple of $n$. In this case, $m$ must be a multiple of $n$, which is the same as saying that $n$ must divide $m$.
Next, I'll show that this condition is sufficient. You can think of elements of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ as equivalence classes of integers with the same reminder on the division by $m$, so take $overline{k}=k+rm$ and $overline{l}=l+sm$. Since $m=hn$, we have $overline{k}=k+rhn$ and $overline{l}=l+shn$. The homomorphism $varphi$ is just sending each element of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ to itself modulo $n$. Hence, denoting equivalence classes by $_m$,
$varphi([overline{k}]_m+_m[overline{l}]_m)=varphi([overline{k}+overline{l}]_m)=[overline{k}+overline{l}]_n=[k+rhn+l+shn]_n=[k+l]_n=k+_n l$
I've used that the sum is not dependent on the representative of the equivalence, and the clear fact that taking the reminder of the division by $n$ doesn't depend on the representative.
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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The remainder when you divide $0$ by $n$ is $0$ so $varphi(0) = 0$. You know that $m equiv 0 mod m$ so $varphi(m)=0$. Now you just write $m$ as $1+_mldots+_m 1$ ($m$ times) so you have $varphi(1+_mldots+_m 1) = 0$. Assuming the homomorphism property you get $varphi(1) +_n ldots +_n varphi(1)=0$. Since dividing 1 by $n$ you always get a remainder of $1$ as long as $n>1$, $varphi(1) = 1$. That means that $1 +_n ldots +_n 1 = 0$. This sum is in the group $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ but we still have $m$ summands so this says that the $m equiv 0 mod n$ which means $m$ must be a multiple of $n$.
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The remainder when you divide $0$ by $n$ is $0$ so $varphi(0) = 0$. You know that $m equiv 0 mod m$ so $varphi(m)=0$. Now you just write $m$ as $1+_mldots+_m 1$ ($m$ times) so you have $varphi(1+_mldots+_m 1) = 0$. Assuming the homomorphism property you get $varphi(1) +_n ldots +_n varphi(1)=0$. Since dividing 1 by $n$ you always get a remainder of $1$ as long as $n>1$, $varphi(1) = 1$. That means that $1 +_n ldots +_n 1 = 0$. This sum is in the group $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ but we still have $m$ summands so this says that the $m equiv 0 mod n$ which means $m$ must be a multiple of $n$.
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The remainder when you divide $0$ by $n$ is $0$ so $varphi(0) = 0$. You know that $m equiv 0 mod m$ so $varphi(m)=0$. Now you just write $m$ as $1+_mldots+_m 1$ ($m$ times) so you have $varphi(1+_mldots+_m 1) = 0$. Assuming the homomorphism property you get $varphi(1) +_n ldots +_n varphi(1)=0$. Since dividing 1 by $n$ you always get a remainder of $1$ as long as $n>1$, $varphi(1) = 1$. That means that $1 +_n ldots +_n 1 = 0$. This sum is in the group $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ but we still have $m$ summands so this says that the $m equiv 0 mod n$ which means $m$ must be a multiple of $n$.
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The remainder when you divide $0$ by $n$ is $0$ so $varphi(0) = 0$. You know that $m equiv 0 mod m$ so $varphi(m)=0$. Now you just write $m$ as $1+_mldots+_m 1$ ($m$ times) so you have $varphi(1+_mldots+_m 1) = 0$. Assuming the homomorphism property you get $varphi(1) +_n ldots +_n varphi(1)=0$. Since dividing 1 by $n$ you always get a remainder of $1$ as long as $n>1$, $varphi(1) = 1$. That means that $1 +_n ldots +_n 1 = 0$. This sum is in the group $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ but we still have $m$ summands so this says that the $m equiv 0 mod n$ which means $m$ must be a multiple of $n$.
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Remember that in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$, $underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n}=0$. If you want $varphi(k+_m l)=varphi(k)+_nvarphi(l)$ (because you want a group homomorphism), in particular you need it for $k=l=1$. The reminder of devision of $1$ by any number greater than $1$ is again $1$, so that is where the equation
$$0=varphi(0)=varphi(underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n})=underbrace{1+_mcdots +_m1}_{n}$$
comes frome. Adding $1$'s in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ only sum up to $0$ if the times you add $1$ is a multiple of $n$. In this case, $m$ must be a multiple of $n$, which is the same as saying that $n$ must divide $m$.
Next, I'll show that this condition is sufficient. You can think of elements of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ as equivalence classes of integers with the same reminder on the division by $m$, so take $overline{k}=k+rm$ and $overline{l}=l+sm$. Since $m=hn$, we have $overline{k}=k+rhn$ and $overline{l}=l+shn$. The homomorphism $varphi$ is just sending each element of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ to itself modulo $n$. Hence, denoting equivalence classes by $_m$,
$varphi([overline{k}]_m+_m[overline{l}]_m)=varphi([overline{k}+overline{l}]_m)=[overline{k}+overline{l}]_n=[k+rhn+l+shn]_n=[k+l]_n=k+_n l$
I've used that the sum is not dependent on the representative of the equivalence, and the clear fact that taking the reminder of the division by $n$ doesn't depend on the representative.
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 19 '18 at 15:23
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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– Javi
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Remember that in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$, $underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n}=0$. If you want $varphi(k+_m l)=varphi(k)+_nvarphi(l)$ (because you want a group homomorphism), in particular you need it for $k=l=1$. The reminder of devision of $1$ by any number greater than $1$ is again $1$, so that is where the equation
$$0=varphi(0)=varphi(underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n})=underbrace{1+_mcdots +_m1}_{n}$$
comes frome. Adding $1$'s in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ only sum up to $0$ if the times you add $1$ is a multiple of $n$. In this case, $m$ must be a multiple of $n$, which is the same as saying that $n$ must divide $m$.
Next, I'll show that this condition is sufficient. You can think of elements of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ as equivalence classes of integers with the same reminder on the division by $m$, so take $overline{k}=k+rm$ and $overline{l}=l+sm$. Since $m=hn$, we have $overline{k}=k+rhn$ and $overline{l}=l+shn$. The homomorphism $varphi$ is just sending each element of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ to itself modulo $n$. Hence, denoting equivalence classes by $_m$,
$varphi([overline{k}]_m+_m[overline{l}]_m)=varphi([overline{k}+overline{l}]_m)=[overline{k}+overline{l}]_n=[k+rhn+l+shn]_n=[k+l]_n=k+_n l$
I've used that the sum is not dependent on the representative of the equivalence, and the clear fact that taking the reminder of the division by $n$ doesn't depend on the representative.
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 19 '18 at 15:23
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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– Javi
Dec 19 '18 at 17:00
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Remember that in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$, $underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n}=0$. If you want $varphi(k+_m l)=varphi(k)+_nvarphi(l)$ (because you want a group homomorphism), in particular you need it for $k=l=1$. The reminder of devision of $1$ by any number greater than $1$ is again $1$, so that is where the equation
$$0=varphi(0)=varphi(underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n})=underbrace{1+_mcdots +_m1}_{n}$$
comes frome. Adding $1$'s in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ only sum up to $0$ if the times you add $1$ is a multiple of $n$. In this case, $m$ must be a multiple of $n$, which is the same as saying that $n$ must divide $m$.
Next, I'll show that this condition is sufficient. You can think of elements of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ as equivalence classes of integers with the same reminder on the division by $m$, so take $overline{k}=k+rm$ and $overline{l}=l+sm$. Since $m=hn$, we have $overline{k}=k+rhn$ and $overline{l}=l+shn$. The homomorphism $varphi$ is just sending each element of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ to itself modulo $n$. Hence, denoting equivalence classes by $_m$,
$varphi([overline{k}]_m+_m[overline{l}]_m)=varphi([overline{k}+overline{l}]_m)=[overline{k}+overline{l}]_n=[k+rhn+l+shn]_n=[k+l]_n=k+_n l$
I've used that the sum is not dependent on the representative of the equivalence, and the clear fact that taking the reminder of the division by $n$ doesn't depend on the representative.
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Remember that in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$, $underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n}=0$. If you want $varphi(k+_m l)=varphi(k)+_nvarphi(l)$ (because you want a group homomorphism), in particular you need it for $k=l=1$. The reminder of devision of $1$ by any number greater than $1$ is again $1$, so that is where the equation
$$0=varphi(0)=varphi(underbrace{1+_ncdots +_n1}_{n})=underbrace{1+_mcdots +_m1}_{n}$$
comes frome. Adding $1$'s in $mathbb{Z}/nmathbb{Z}$ only sum up to $0$ if the times you add $1$ is a multiple of $n$. In this case, $m$ must be a multiple of $n$, which is the same as saying that $n$ must divide $m$.
Next, I'll show that this condition is sufficient. You can think of elements of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ as equivalence classes of integers with the same reminder on the division by $m$, so take $overline{k}=k+rm$ and $overline{l}=l+sm$. Since $m=hn$, we have $overline{k}=k+rhn$ and $overline{l}=l+shn$. The homomorphism $varphi$ is just sending each element of $mathbb{Z}/mmathbb{Z}$ to itself modulo $n$. Hence, denoting equivalence classes by $_m$,
$varphi([overline{k}]_m+_m[overline{l}]_m)=varphi([overline{k}+overline{l}]_m)=[overline{k}+overline{l}]_n=[k+rhn+l+shn]_n=[k+l]_n=k+_n l$
I've used that the sum is not dependent on the representative of the equivalence, and the clear fact that taking the reminder of the division by $n$ doesn't depend on the representative.
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answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:12
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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– Javi
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 19 '18 at 15:23
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How would i show that it is sufficient then?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 19 '18 at 15:23
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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– Javi
Dec 19 '18 at 17:00
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@4M4D3U5M0Z4RT I've added it to the answer
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There are three steps in the line you highlighted, which one is not clear to you?
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– Christoph
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The second two expressions
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