Find a closed expression for $sum_{k=1}^nleft(sum_{l=1}^k l^2right)$. [closed]












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Find the close expression for :
$$sum_{k=1}^nleft(sum_{l=1}^k l^2right)$$



I have very less knowledge about nested sigma notations. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.










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  • At least can you express the inner summation ?
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  • @YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
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  • I changed to "express".
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  • @YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
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  • The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
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Find the close expression for :
$$sum_{k=1}^nleft(sum_{l=1}^k l^2right)$$



I have very less knowledge about nested sigma notations. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.










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  • At least can you express the inner summation ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:11












  • @YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • I changed to "express".
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • @YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:14










  • The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
    – amWhy
    Nov 29 at 17:15
















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Find the close expression for :
$$sum_{k=1}^nleft(sum_{l=1}^k l^2right)$$



I have very less knowledge about nested sigma notations. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.










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Find the close expression for :
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I have very less knowledge about nested sigma notations. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.







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  • At least can you express the inner summation ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:11












  • @YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • I changed to "express".
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • @YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:14










  • The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
    – amWhy
    Nov 29 at 17:15




















  • At least can you express the inner summation ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:11












  • @YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • I changed to "express".
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 29 at 17:13










  • @YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
    – 01110000_01110000
    Nov 29 at 17:14










  • The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
    – amWhy
    Nov 29 at 17:15


















At least can you express the inner summation ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 29 at 17:11






At least can you express the inner summation ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 29 at 17:11














@YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
– 01110000_01110000
Nov 29 at 17:13




@YvesDaoust By solve you mean expand?
– 01110000_01110000
Nov 29 at 17:13












I changed to "express".
– Yves Daoust
Nov 29 at 17:13




I changed to "express".
– Yves Daoust
Nov 29 at 17:13












@YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
– 01110000_01110000
Nov 29 at 17:14




@YvesDaoust No I do not. I am still unclear about what you are asking
– 01110000_01110000
Nov 29 at 17:14












The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
– amWhy
Nov 29 at 17:15






The inner summation yields $dfrac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}.$ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation).
– amWhy
Nov 29 at 17:15












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To evaluate this sum by hand efficiently, we can use something calling rising factorial.



For any $n > 0$, the rising factorial is a polynomial in $x$ defined by:



$$x^{(n)} = prodlimits_{k=0}^{n-1}(x+k)$$
One useful property of $x^{(n)}$ is it can be expressed as a difference of successive terms of $x^{(n+1)}$



$$begin{align}x^{(n)}
&= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)\ &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)frac{(x+n)-(x-1)}{n+1}\
&= frac{1}{n+1}left(x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)end{align}
$$

This means summation over $x^{(n)}$ is a telescoping one.
$$begin{align}sum_{x=1}^y (x)_n &= frac{1}{n+1}sum_{x=1}^yleft( x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)
= frac{1}{n+1}left( y^{(n+1)} - 0^{(n+1)}right)\
&= frac{1}{n+1} y^{(n+1)}end{align}$$



For the sum at hand, notice $ell^2 = ell(ell+1) - ell = ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}$, we have



$$begin{align}sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^k ell^2
&= sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^kleft( ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}right)
= sum_{k=1}^n left(frac13 k^{(3)} - frac12 k^{(2)}right)\
&= frac{1}{3cdot 4}n^{(4)} - frac{1}{2cdot 3} n^{(3)}
= frac{n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3 - 2)}{12}\
&= frac{n(n+1)^2(n+2)}{12}end{align}$$






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    A brute force way is as follows. The inner sum can be written as
    $$
    sum_{l=1}^k l^2=frac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}tag{1}
    $$

    To sum this over $k$ expand the LHS of $(1)$ and use the formulae
    $$
    sum_{j=1}^nj=frac{n(n+1)}{2}quad sum_{j=1}^nj^2=frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}.
    $$






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    • So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
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    Hint:



    A sum of $k^{th}$ powers can be expressed as a $k+1^{th}$ degree polynomial, quartic in your case. Furthermore, $P(0)=0$ because a void summation is zero, and



    $$S(n)=n(an^3+bn^2+cn+d)$$ or



    $$Q(n):=frac{P(n)}n=an^3+bn^2+cn+d$$ can be identified as the Lagrangian interpolation polynomial through the points $left(i,dfrac{S(i)}iright)$ for $i=1,2,3,4$.






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      To evaluate this sum by hand efficiently, we can use something calling rising factorial.



      For any $n > 0$, the rising factorial is a polynomial in $x$ defined by:



      $$x^{(n)} = prodlimits_{k=0}^{n-1}(x+k)$$
      One useful property of $x^{(n)}$ is it can be expressed as a difference of successive terms of $x^{(n+1)}$



      $$begin{align}x^{(n)}
      &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)\ &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)frac{(x+n)-(x-1)}{n+1}\
      &= frac{1}{n+1}left(x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)end{align}
      $$

      This means summation over $x^{(n)}$ is a telescoping one.
      $$begin{align}sum_{x=1}^y (x)_n &= frac{1}{n+1}sum_{x=1}^yleft( x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)
      = frac{1}{n+1}left( y^{(n+1)} - 0^{(n+1)}right)\
      &= frac{1}{n+1} y^{(n+1)}end{align}$$



      For the sum at hand, notice $ell^2 = ell(ell+1) - ell = ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}$, we have



      $$begin{align}sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^k ell^2
      &= sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^kleft( ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}right)
      = sum_{k=1}^n left(frac13 k^{(3)} - frac12 k^{(2)}right)\
      &= frac{1}{3cdot 4}n^{(4)} - frac{1}{2cdot 3} n^{(3)}
      = frac{n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3 - 2)}{12}\
      &= frac{n(n+1)^2(n+2)}{12}end{align}$$






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        To evaluate this sum by hand efficiently, we can use something calling rising factorial.



        For any $n > 0$, the rising factorial is a polynomial in $x$ defined by:



        $$x^{(n)} = prodlimits_{k=0}^{n-1}(x+k)$$
        One useful property of $x^{(n)}$ is it can be expressed as a difference of successive terms of $x^{(n+1)}$



        $$begin{align}x^{(n)}
        &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)\ &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)frac{(x+n)-(x-1)}{n+1}\
        &= frac{1}{n+1}left(x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)end{align}
        $$

        This means summation over $x^{(n)}$ is a telescoping one.
        $$begin{align}sum_{x=1}^y (x)_n &= frac{1}{n+1}sum_{x=1}^yleft( x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)
        = frac{1}{n+1}left( y^{(n+1)} - 0^{(n+1)}right)\
        &= frac{1}{n+1} y^{(n+1)}end{align}$$



        For the sum at hand, notice $ell^2 = ell(ell+1) - ell = ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}$, we have



        $$begin{align}sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^k ell^2
        &= sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^kleft( ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}right)
        = sum_{k=1}^n left(frac13 k^{(3)} - frac12 k^{(2)}right)\
        &= frac{1}{3cdot 4}n^{(4)} - frac{1}{2cdot 3} n^{(3)}
        = frac{n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3 - 2)}{12}\
        &= frac{n(n+1)^2(n+2)}{12}end{align}$$






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          To evaluate this sum by hand efficiently, we can use something calling rising factorial.



          For any $n > 0$, the rising factorial is a polynomial in $x$ defined by:



          $$x^{(n)} = prodlimits_{k=0}^{n-1}(x+k)$$
          One useful property of $x^{(n)}$ is it can be expressed as a difference of successive terms of $x^{(n+1)}$



          $$begin{align}x^{(n)}
          &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)\ &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)frac{(x+n)-(x-1)}{n+1}\
          &= frac{1}{n+1}left(x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)end{align}
          $$

          This means summation over $x^{(n)}$ is a telescoping one.
          $$begin{align}sum_{x=1}^y (x)_n &= frac{1}{n+1}sum_{x=1}^yleft( x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)
          = frac{1}{n+1}left( y^{(n+1)} - 0^{(n+1)}right)\
          &= frac{1}{n+1} y^{(n+1)}end{align}$$



          For the sum at hand, notice $ell^2 = ell(ell+1) - ell = ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}$, we have



          $$begin{align}sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^k ell^2
          &= sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^kleft( ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}right)
          = sum_{k=1}^n left(frac13 k^{(3)} - frac12 k^{(2)}right)\
          &= frac{1}{3cdot 4}n^{(4)} - frac{1}{2cdot 3} n^{(3)}
          = frac{n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3 - 2)}{12}\
          &= frac{n(n+1)^2(n+2)}{12}end{align}$$






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          To evaluate this sum by hand efficiently, we can use something calling rising factorial.



          For any $n > 0$, the rising factorial is a polynomial in $x$ defined by:



          $$x^{(n)} = prodlimits_{k=0}^{n-1}(x+k)$$
          One useful property of $x^{(n)}$ is it can be expressed as a difference of successive terms of $x^{(n+1)}$



          $$begin{align}x^{(n)}
          &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)\ &= x(x+1)cdots(x+n-1)frac{(x+n)-(x-1)}{n+1}\
          &= frac{1}{n+1}left(x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)end{align}
          $$

          This means summation over $x^{(n)}$ is a telescoping one.
          $$begin{align}sum_{x=1}^y (x)_n &= frac{1}{n+1}sum_{x=1}^yleft( x^{(n+1)} - (x-1)^{(n+1)}right)
          = frac{1}{n+1}left( y^{(n+1)} - 0^{(n+1)}right)\
          &= frac{1}{n+1} y^{(n+1)}end{align}$$



          For the sum at hand, notice $ell^2 = ell(ell+1) - ell = ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}$, we have



          $$begin{align}sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^k ell^2
          &= sum_{k=1}^n sum_{ell=1}^kleft( ell^{(2)} - ell^{(1)}right)
          = sum_{k=1}^n left(frac13 k^{(3)} - frac12 k^{(2)}right)\
          &= frac{1}{3cdot 4}n^{(4)} - frac{1}{2cdot 3} n^{(3)}
          = frac{n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3 - 2)}{12}\
          &= frac{n(n+1)^2(n+2)}{12}end{align}$$







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              A brute force way is as follows. The inner sum can be written as
              $$
              sum_{l=1}^k l^2=frac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}tag{1}
              $$

              To sum this over $k$ expand the LHS of $(1)$ and use the formulae
              $$
              sum_{j=1}^nj=frac{n(n+1)}{2}quad sum_{j=1}^nj^2=frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}.
              $$






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              • So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
                – 01110000_01110000
                Nov 29 at 17:19
















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              A brute force way is as follows. The inner sum can be written as
              $$
              sum_{l=1}^k l^2=frac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}tag{1}
              $$

              To sum this over $k$ expand the LHS of $(1)$ and use the formulae
              $$
              sum_{j=1}^nj=frac{n(n+1)}{2}quad sum_{j=1}^nj^2=frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}.
              $$






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              • So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
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                Nov 29 at 17:19














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              A brute force way is as follows. The inner sum can be written as
              $$
              sum_{l=1}^k l^2=frac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}tag{1}
              $$

              To sum this over $k$ expand the LHS of $(1)$ and use the formulae
              $$
              sum_{j=1}^nj=frac{n(n+1)}{2}quad sum_{j=1}^nj^2=frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}.
              $$






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              A brute force way is as follows. The inner sum can be written as
              $$
              sum_{l=1}^k l^2=frac{k(k+1)(2k+1)}{6}tag{1}
              $$

              To sum this over $k$ expand the LHS of $(1)$ and use the formulae
              $$
              sum_{j=1}^nj=frac{n(n+1)}{2}quad sum_{j=1}^nj^2=frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}.
              $$







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              • So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
                – 01110000_01110000
                Nov 29 at 17:19


















              • So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
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                Nov 29 at 17:19
















              So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
              – 01110000_01110000
              Nov 29 at 17:19




              So to get the answer would you replace n with k(k+1)(2k+1)/6 ?
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              Nov 29 at 17:19











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              Hint:



              A sum of $k^{th}$ powers can be expressed as a $k+1^{th}$ degree polynomial, quartic in your case. Furthermore, $P(0)=0$ because a void summation is zero, and



              $$S(n)=n(an^3+bn^2+cn+d)$$ or



              $$Q(n):=frac{P(n)}n=an^3+bn^2+cn+d$$ can be identified as the Lagrangian interpolation polynomial through the points $left(i,dfrac{S(i)}iright)$ for $i=1,2,3,4$.






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                Hint:



                A sum of $k^{th}$ powers can be expressed as a $k+1^{th}$ degree polynomial, quartic in your case. Furthermore, $P(0)=0$ because a void summation is zero, and



                $$S(n)=n(an^3+bn^2+cn+d)$$ or



                $$Q(n):=frac{P(n)}n=an^3+bn^2+cn+d$$ can be identified as the Lagrangian interpolation polynomial through the points $left(i,dfrac{S(i)}iright)$ for $i=1,2,3,4$.






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                  Hint:



                  A sum of $k^{th}$ powers can be expressed as a $k+1^{th}$ degree polynomial, quartic in your case. Furthermore, $P(0)=0$ because a void summation is zero, and



                  $$S(n)=n(an^3+bn^2+cn+d)$$ or



                  $$Q(n):=frac{P(n)}n=an^3+bn^2+cn+d$$ can be identified as the Lagrangian interpolation polynomial through the points $left(i,dfrac{S(i)}iright)$ for $i=1,2,3,4$.






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                  Hint:



                  A sum of $k^{th}$ powers can be expressed as a $k+1^{th}$ degree polynomial, quartic in your case. Furthermore, $P(0)=0$ because a void summation is zero, and



                  $$S(n)=n(an^3+bn^2+cn+d)$$ or



                  $$Q(n):=frac{P(n)}n=an^3+bn^2+cn+d$$ can be identified as the Lagrangian interpolation polynomial through the points $left(i,dfrac{S(i)}iright)$ for $i=1,2,3,4$.







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