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Let $p>3$ is prime number. Prove that number $4p^2+1$ can show as sum of squares of three different numbers.



Only what I know that every prime number $p>3$ can show as $p=6k+1$ or $p=6k-1$, such that $k in mathbb Z$.



If I put $p=6k+1$, then $4(6k+1)^2+1=(12k)^2+(24k+3)^2-(24k+2)^2$, here I did not show what they want in task.



For $p=6k-1$ things do not change, do you have some idea?










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  • Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
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    It is possible to ignore $0$, as I did in my answer @Snookie .
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  • no you can not include 0
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Let $p>3$ is prime number. Prove that number $4p^2+1$ can show as sum of squares of three different numbers.



Only what I know that every prime number $p>3$ can show as $p=6k+1$ or $p=6k-1$, such that $k in mathbb Z$.



If I put $p=6k+1$, then $4(6k+1)^2+1=(12k)^2+(24k+3)^2-(24k+2)^2$, here I did not show what they want in task.



For $p=6k-1$ things do not change, do you have some idea?










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  • Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
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Let $p>3$ is prime number. Prove that number $4p^2+1$ can show as sum of squares of three different numbers.



Only what I know that every prime number $p>3$ can show as $p=6k+1$ or $p=6k-1$, such that $k in mathbb Z$.



If I put $p=6k+1$, then $4(6k+1)^2+1=(12k)^2+(24k+3)^2-(24k+2)^2$, here I did not show what they want in task.



For $p=6k-1$ things do not change, do you have some idea?










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Let $p>3$ is prime number. Prove that number $4p^2+1$ can show as sum of squares of three different numbers.



Only what I know that every prime number $p>3$ can show as $p=6k+1$ or $p=6k-1$, such that $k in mathbb Z$.



If I put $p=6k+1$, then $4(6k+1)^2+1=(12k)^2+(24k+3)^2-(24k+2)^2$, here I did not show what they want in task.



For $p=6k-1$ things do not change, do you have some idea?





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  • Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
    – Snookie
    Nov 21 at 16:42








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    It is possible to ignore $0$, as I did in my answer @Snookie .
    – Raptor
    Nov 21 at 16:46










  • no you can not include 0
    – Marko Škorić
    Nov 21 at 16:48




















  • Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
    – Snookie
    Nov 21 at 16:42








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    It is possible to ignore $0$, as I did in my answer @Snookie .
    – Raptor
    Nov 21 at 16:46










  • no you can not include 0
    – Marko Škorić
    Nov 21 at 16:48


















Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
– Snookie
Nov 21 at 16:42






Does $0$ count as a square here? I mean $4cdot 7^2+1 = 0^2+1^2+14^2$, and $0,1,14$ are distinct. If yes, this is quite trivial: $4p^2+1=0^2+1^2+(2p)^2$ for any integer $pneq 0$.
– Snookie
Nov 21 at 16:42






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It is possible to ignore $0$, as I did in my answer @Snookie .
– Raptor
Nov 21 at 16:46




It is possible to ignore $0$, as I did in my answer @Snookie .
– Raptor
Nov 21 at 16:46












no you can not include 0
– Marko Škorić
Nov 21 at 16:48






no you can not include 0
– Marko Škorić
Nov 21 at 16:48












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Notice that $5=1^2+2^2,$ so:
$4(6k+1)^2+1=144k^2+48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk+1)^2+(ck+2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2+(2b+4c)k+5$
$therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad 2b+4c=48$



By trial and error, I found that $a=4, b=8, c=8$.

So $4(6k+1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k+1)^2+(8k+2)^2$



Now for $p=6k-1,$
$4(6k-1)^2+1=144k^2-48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk-1)^2+(ck-2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2-(2b+4c)k+5$
$therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad -48=-(2b+4c)$



So, $4(6k-1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k-1)^2+(8k-2)^2$






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    Notice that $5=1^2+2^2,$ so:
    $4(6k+1)^2+1=144k^2+48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk+1)^2+(ck+2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2+(2b+4c)k+5$
    $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad 2b+4c=48$



    By trial and error, I found that $a=4, b=8, c=8$.

    So $4(6k+1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k+1)^2+(8k+2)^2$



    Now for $p=6k-1,$
    $4(6k-1)^2+1=144k^2-48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk-1)^2+(ck-2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2-(2b+4c)k+5$
    $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad -48=-(2b+4c)$



    So, $4(6k-1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k-1)^2+(8k-2)^2$






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      Notice that $5=1^2+2^2,$ so:
      $4(6k+1)^2+1=144k^2+48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk+1)^2+(ck+2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2+(2b+4c)k+5$
      $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad 2b+4c=48$



      By trial and error, I found that $a=4, b=8, c=8$.

      So $4(6k+1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k+1)^2+(8k+2)^2$



      Now for $p=6k-1,$
      $4(6k-1)^2+1=144k^2-48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk-1)^2+(ck-2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2-(2b+4c)k+5$
      $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad -48=-(2b+4c)$



      So, $4(6k-1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k-1)^2+(8k-2)^2$






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        Notice that $5=1^2+2^2,$ so:
        $4(6k+1)^2+1=144k^2+48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk+1)^2+(ck+2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2+(2b+4c)k+5$
        $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad 2b+4c=48$



        By trial and error, I found that $a=4, b=8, c=8$.

        So $4(6k+1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k+1)^2+(8k+2)^2$



        Now for $p=6k-1,$
        $4(6k-1)^2+1=144k^2-48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk-1)^2+(ck-2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2-(2b+4c)k+5$
        $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad -48=-(2b+4c)$



        So, $4(6k-1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k-1)^2+(8k-2)^2$






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        Notice that $5=1^2+2^2,$ so:
        $4(6k+1)^2+1=144k^2+48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk+1)^2+(ck+2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2+(2b+4c)k+5$
        $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad 2b+4c=48$



        By trial and error, I found that $a=4, b=8, c=8$.

        So $4(6k+1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k+1)^2+(8k+2)^2$



        Now for $p=6k-1,$
        $4(6k-1)^2+1=144k^2-48k+5=(ak)^2+(bk-1)^2+(ck-2)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)k^2-(2b+4c)k+5$
        $therefore 144=a^2+b^2+c^2 qquad$ and $qquad -48=-(2b+4c)$



        So, $4(6k-1)^2+1=(4k)^2+(8k-1)^2+(8k-2)^2$







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