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prove $$sum_{n=2}^{infty} frac{1}{n log n}$$ diverge. I have done this problem using cauchy integral test and condensation test. But i want to do it by comparison test or by limit comparison test . any hint about that .



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          Why you would like to do this by comparison test (comparing with a series)? Note that the "condensation test" is in some sense also a comparison test.



          One straightforward way to do this, is to use the integral comparison test: The function $$f(x):= frac{1}{xlog(x)}$$
          is for $x > 2$ decreasing. Thus we get
          $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} ge int_{3}^{m} frac{1}{x log(x)} , d x = log log m - log log (3)$$
          The same argument can be used to find an upper bound. This gives the asymptotic formula
          $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} sim log log m.$$






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            I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
            – openspace
            Nov 20 at 10:59










          • In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
            – robjohn
            Nov 20 at 11:06






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            I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
            – DonAntonio
            Nov 20 at 11:07










          • Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
            – p4sch
            Nov 20 at 11:09










          • @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
            – Szeto
            Nov 20 at 13:28


















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          Define $a_n=(1/(nlog n)$ and $b_n=a_{2^m}$ where $2^m$ is the smallest power of $2$ greater than or equal to $n$. The number of $b_n$ terms having a given value of $m$ is then $2^{m-1}$ and the sum of those terms is



          $$(2^{m-1})dfrac{1}{2^mlog(2^m)}=dfrac{1}{2mlog 2}.$$



          Repeated over all values of $mge 1$ this gives a constant times the divergent harmonic series for the $b_n$ series. Since the latter diverges and $a_nge b_n>0$ by construction, the $a_n$ series also diverges.



          This form of comparison test is called the Cauchy Condensation Test. Valid for any monotonically decreasing series of positive terms, the test can be used to establish either convergence or divergence. It is best known for proving the divergence if the harmonic series itself.






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            Why you would like to do this by comparison test (comparing with a series)? Note that the "condensation test" is in some sense also a comparison test.



            One straightforward way to do this, is to use the integral comparison test: The function $$f(x):= frac{1}{xlog(x)}$$
            is for $x > 2$ decreasing. Thus we get
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} ge int_{3}^{m} frac{1}{x log(x)} , d x = log log m - log log (3)$$
            The same argument can be used to find an upper bound. This gives the asymptotic formula
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} sim log log m.$$






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            • 1




              I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
              – openspace
              Nov 20 at 10:59










            • In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
              – robjohn
              Nov 20 at 11:06






            • 1




              I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
              – DonAntonio
              Nov 20 at 11:07










            • Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
              – p4sch
              Nov 20 at 11:09










            • @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
              – Szeto
              Nov 20 at 13:28















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            Why you would like to do this by comparison test (comparing with a series)? Note that the "condensation test" is in some sense also a comparison test.



            One straightforward way to do this, is to use the integral comparison test: The function $$f(x):= frac{1}{xlog(x)}$$
            is for $x > 2$ decreasing. Thus we get
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} ge int_{3}^{m} frac{1}{x log(x)} , d x = log log m - log log (3)$$
            The same argument can be used to find an upper bound. This gives the asymptotic formula
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} sim log log m.$$






            share|cite|improve this answer



















            • 1




              I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
              – openspace
              Nov 20 at 10:59










            • In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
              – robjohn
              Nov 20 at 11:06






            • 1




              I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
              – DonAntonio
              Nov 20 at 11:07










            • Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
              – p4sch
              Nov 20 at 11:09










            • @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
              – Szeto
              Nov 20 at 13:28













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            Why you would like to do this by comparison test (comparing with a series)? Note that the "condensation test" is in some sense also a comparison test.



            One straightforward way to do this, is to use the integral comparison test: The function $$f(x):= frac{1}{xlog(x)}$$
            is for $x > 2$ decreasing. Thus we get
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} ge int_{3}^{m} frac{1}{x log(x)} , d x = log log m - log log (3)$$
            The same argument can be used to find an upper bound. This gives the asymptotic formula
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} sim log log m.$$






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Why you would like to do this by comparison test (comparing with a series)? Note that the "condensation test" is in some sense also a comparison test.



            One straightforward way to do this, is to use the integral comparison test: The function $$f(x):= frac{1}{xlog(x)}$$
            is for $x > 2$ decreasing. Thus we get
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} ge int_{3}^{m} frac{1}{x log(x)} , d x = log log m - log log (3)$$
            The same argument can be used to find an upper bound. This gives the asymptotic formula
            $$sum_{n=2}^m frac{1}{n log(n)} sim log log m.$$







            share|cite|improve this answer














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            answered Nov 20 at 10:52









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            • 1




              I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
              – openspace
              Nov 20 at 10:59










            • In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
              – robjohn
              Nov 20 at 11:06






            • 1




              I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
              – DonAntonio
              Nov 20 at 11:07










            • Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
              – p4sch
              Nov 20 at 11:09










            • @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
              – Szeto
              Nov 20 at 13:28














            • 1




              I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
              – openspace
              Nov 20 at 10:59










            • In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
              – robjohn
              Nov 20 at 11:06






            • 1




              I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
              – DonAntonio
              Nov 20 at 11:07










            • Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
              – p4sch
              Nov 20 at 11:09










            • @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
              – Szeto
              Nov 20 at 13:28








            1




            1




            I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
            – openspace
            Nov 20 at 10:59




            I guess the author made a condensation test using integral mentioned above.
            – openspace
            Nov 20 at 10:59












            In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
            – robjohn
            Nov 20 at 11:06




            In fact $$ lim_{ntoinfty}left(sum_{k=2}^nfrac1{klog(k)}-log(log(n))right)=0.794678645452899402203897962 $$
            – robjohn
            Nov 20 at 11:06




            1




            1




            I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
            – DonAntonio
            Nov 20 at 11:07




            I think you may have meant to define $;f;$ otherwise...
            – DonAntonio
            Nov 20 at 11:07












            Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
            – p4sch
            Nov 20 at 11:09




            Of course! Typo corrected. :-)
            – p4sch
            Nov 20 at 11:09












            @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
            – Szeto
            Nov 20 at 13:28




            @robjohn Any closed form for this constant?
            – Szeto
            Nov 20 at 13:28










            up vote
            1
            down vote













            Define $a_n=(1/(nlog n)$ and $b_n=a_{2^m}$ where $2^m$ is the smallest power of $2$ greater than or equal to $n$. The number of $b_n$ terms having a given value of $m$ is then $2^{m-1}$ and the sum of those terms is



            $$(2^{m-1})dfrac{1}{2^mlog(2^m)}=dfrac{1}{2mlog 2}.$$



            Repeated over all values of $mge 1$ this gives a constant times the divergent harmonic series for the $b_n$ series. Since the latter diverges and $a_nge b_n>0$ by construction, the $a_n$ series also diverges.



            This form of comparison test is called the Cauchy Condensation Test. Valid for any monotonically decreasing series of positive terms, the test can be used to establish either convergence or divergence. It is best known for proving the divergence if the harmonic series itself.






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              Define $a_n=(1/(nlog n)$ and $b_n=a_{2^m}$ where $2^m$ is the smallest power of $2$ greater than or equal to $n$. The number of $b_n$ terms having a given value of $m$ is then $2^{m-1}$ and the sum of those terms is



              $$(2^{m-1})dfrac{1}{2^mlog(2^m)}=dfrac{1}{2mlog 2}.$$



              Repeated over all values of $mge 1$ this gives a constant times the divergent harmonic series for the $b_n$ series. Since the latter diverges and $a_nge b_n>0$ by construction, the $a_n$ series also diverges.



              This form of comparison test is called the Cauchy Condensation Test. Valid for any monotonically decreasing series of positive terms, the test can be used to establish either convergence or divergence. It is best known for proving the divergence if the harmonic series itself.






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                Define $a_n=(1/(nlog n)$ and $b_n=a_{2^m}$ where $2^m$ is the smallest power of $2$ greater than or equal to $n$. The number of $b_n$ terms having a given value of $m$ is then $2^{m-1}$ and the sum of those terms is



                $$(2^{m-1})dfrac{1}{2^mlog(2^m)}=dfrac{1}{2mlog 2}.$$



                Repeated over all values of $mge 1$ this gives a constant times the divergent harmonic series for the $b_n$ series. Since the latter diverges and $a_nge b_n>0$ by construction, the $a_n$ series also diverges.



                This form of comparison test is called the Cauchy Condensation Test. Valid for any monotonically decreasing series of positive terms, the test can be used to establish either convergence or divergence. It is best known for proving the divergence if the harmonic series itself.






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                Define $a_n=(1/(nlog n)$ and $b_n=a_{2^m}$ where $2^m$ is the smallest power of $2$ greater than or equal to $n$. The number of $b_n$ terms having a given value of $m$ is then $2^{m-1}$ and the sum of those terms is



                $$(2^{m-1})dfrac{1}{2^mlog(2^m)}=dfrac{1}{2mlog 2}.$$



                Repeated over all values of $mge 1$ this gives a constant times the divergent harmonic series for the $b_n$ series. Since the latter diverges and $a_nge b_n>0$ by construction, the $a_n$ series also diverges.



                This form of comparison test is called the Cauchy Condensation Test. Valid for any monotonically decreasing series of positive terms, the test can be used to establish either convergence or divergence. It is best known for proving the divergence if the harmonic series itself.







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