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Math question:An open-top box with a square base is to have a volume of 4 cubic ft. Find the dimensions of the box that can be be made with the smallest amount of material.



This is the only thing I got: $V=x^2y=4$










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    Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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Math question:An open-top box with a square base is to have a volume of 4 cubic ft. Find the dimensions of the box that can be be made with the smallest amount of material.



This is the only thing I got: $V=x^2y=4$










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    Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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Math question:An open-top box with a square base is to have a volume of 4 cubic ft. Find the dimensions of the box that can be be made with the smallest amount of material.



This is the only thing I got: $V=x^2y=4$










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This is the only thing I got: $V=x^2y=4$







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    $begingroup$
    Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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    – Simon S
    Apr 17 '15 at 23:11














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    $begingroup$
    Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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    – Simon S
    Apr 17 '15 at 23:11








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$begingroup$
Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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– Simon S
Apr 17 '15 at 23:11




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Ok, so the equation for $V$ is a constraint on your length variables. Now write down an expression for surface area in terms of $x$ and $y$.
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So you have $V=xcdot x cdot y=4, $ i.e. your volume is $4$ and this equation has two variables. We need a second equation that way we will have $2$ equations with $2$ variables right?



So whats the surface area of an open top box? In general the it will be (using $w$=width for base, $l$=length for base, and $h$=height)
$S=wcdot l+2 cdot w cdot h+2cdot lcdot h $ (only one $w cdot l$ because its open top). Based on your question it looks like $y$ is the height and $w=l=x$.



Solve $V$ for one variable say $y=frac{4}{x^2}$. Put that into $S$ and calculate $frac{dS}{dy}=0$. Find the $y$ works and if there's only one its probably the min. If there's more than one you have to check to the right and left to see if its a min or max.






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    So you have $V=xcdot x cdot y=4, $ i.e. your volume is $4$ and this equation has two variables. We need a second equation that way we will have $2$ equations with $2$ variables right?



    So whats the surface area of an open top box? In general the it will be (using $w$=width for base, $l$=length for base, and $h$=height)
    $S=wcdot l+2 cdot w cdot h+2cdot lcdot h $ (only one $w cdot l$ because its open top). Based on your question it looks like $y$ is the height and $w=l=x$.



    Solve $V$ for one variable say $y=frac{4}{x^2}$. Put that into $S$ and calculate $frac{dS}{dy}=0$. Find the $y$ works and if there's only one its probably the min. If there's more than one you have to check to the right and left to see if its a min or max.






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      So you have $V=xcdot x cdot y=4, $ i.e. your volume is $4$ and this equation has two variables. We need a second equation that way we will have $2$ equations with $2$ variables right?



      So whats the surface area of an open top box? In general the it will be (using $w$=width for base, $l$=length for base, and $h$=height)
      $S=wcdot l+2 cdot w cdot h+2cdot lcdot h $ (only one $w cdot l$ because its open top). Based on your question it looks like $y$ is the height and $w=l=x$.



      Solve $V$ for one variable say $y=frac{4}{x^2}$. Put that into $S$ and calculate $frac{dS}{dy}=0$. Find the $y$ works and if there's only one its probably the min. If there's more than one you have to check to the right and left to see if its a min or max.






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        So you have $V=xcdot x cdot y=4, $ i.e. your volume is $4$ and this equation has two variables. We need a second equation that way we will have $2$ equations with $2$ variables right?



        So whats the surface area of an open top box? In general the it will be (using $w$=width for base, $l$=length for base, and $h$=height)
        $S=wcdot l+2 cdot w cdot h+2cdot lcdot h $ (only one $w cdot l$ because its open top). Based on your question it looks like $y$ is the height and $w=l=x$.



        Solve $V$ for one variable say $y=frac{4}{x^2}$. Put that into $S$ and calculate $frac{dS}{dy}=0$. Find the $y$ works and if there's only one its probably the min. If there's more than one you have to check to the right and left to see if its a min or max.






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        So you have $V=xcdot x cdot y=4, $ i.e. your volume is $4$ and this equation has two variables. We need a second equation that way we will have $2$ equations with $2$ variables right?



        So whats the surface area of an open top box? In general the it will be (using $w$=width for base, $l$=length for base, and $h$=height)
        $S=wcdot l+2 cdot w cdot h+2cdot lcdot h $ (only one $w cdot l$ because its open top). Based on your question it looks like $y$ is the height and $w=l=x$.



        Solve $V$ for one variable say $y=frac{4}{x^2}$. Put that into $S$ and calculate $frac{dS}{dy}=0$. Find the $y$ works and if there's only one its probably the min. If there's more than one you have to check to the right and left to see if its a min or max.







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