Show that $lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto0}f(x^3)$ (Real Analysis)











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I'm trying to prove that $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto0}f(x^3)$$ (The domain is not specified and neither the continuity, so it really is only about the limit of an arbitrary function)..



I'm guessing I need to simply use the definition. However I'm not sure where to start.



Here is what I had in mind, however I feel like it's not at all how it should be proved.



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Let $lim_{xto0}f(x) = L$.



Then, we have that



$$ forall epsilon > 0, exists delta>0
text{ such that whenever } 0<|x|< delta Rightarrow |f(x) - L| < epsilon$$



Let $y = x^3$, then we want to show that $$|f(y) - L| < epsilon text{ whenever } 0<|x| = |y^{frac{1}{3}}| < delta$$



And here is where I get stuck. Is there any more efficient way to prove this?



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    I'm trying to prove that $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto0}f(x^3)$$ (The domain is not specified and neither the continuity, so it really is only about the limit of an arbitrary function)..



    I'm guessing I need to simply use the definition. However I'm not sure where to start.



    Here is what I had in mind, however I feel like it's not at all how it should be proved.



    Proof



    Let $lim_{xto0}f(x) = L$.



    Then, we have that



    $$ forall epsilon > 0, exists delta>0
    text{ such that whenever } 0<|x|< delta Rightarrow |f(x) - L| < epsilon$$



    Let $y = x^3$, then we want to show that $$|f(y) - L| < epsilon text{ whenever } 0<|x| = |y^{frac{1}{3}}| < delta$$



    And here is where I get stuck. Is there any more efficient way to prove this?



    Thank you!










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      I'm trying to prove that $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto0}f(x^3)$$ (The domain is not specified and neither the continuity, so it really is only about the limit of an arbitrary function)..



      I'm guessing I need to simply use the definition. However I'm not sure where to start.



      Here is what I had in mind, however I feel like it's not at all how it should be proved.



      Proof



      Let $lim_{xto0}f(x) = L$.



      Then, we have that



      $$ forall epsilon > 0, exists delta>0
      text{ such that whenever } 0<|x|< delta Rightarrow |f(x) - L| < epsilon$$



      Let $y = x^3$, then we want to show that $$|f(y) - L| < epsilon text{ whenever } 0<|x| = |y^{frac{1}{3}}| < delta$$



      And here is where I get stuck. Is there any more efficient way to prove this?



      Thank you!










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      I'm trying to prove that $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto0}f(x^3)$$ (The domain is not specified and neither the continuity, so it really is only about the limit of an arbitrary function)..



      I'm guessing I need to simply use the definition. However I'm not sure where to start.



      Here is what I had in mind, however I feel like it's not at all how it should be proved.



      Proof



      Let $lim_{xto0}f(x) = L$.



      Then, we have that



      $$ forall epsilon > 0, exists delta>0
      text{ such that whenever } 0<|x|< delta Rightarrow |f(x) - L| < epsilon$$



      Let $y = x^3$, then we want to show that $$|f(y) - L| < epsilon text{ whenever } 0<|x| = |y^{frac{1}{3}}| < delta$$



      And here is where I get stuck. Is there any more efficient way to prove this?



      Thank you!







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          Asserting that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ means, as you wrote, that$$(forallvarepsilon>0)(existsdelta>0):lvert xrvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$So, take $delta^star=sqrt[3]delta$ and then$$lvert xrvert<delta^starimplieslvert x^3rvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x^3)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$In other words, $lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$. Can you do it in the opposite direction now?






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            As an alternative we can proceed by composite function, assuming that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ it means that



            $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta>0quad |x|<deltaquad bigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



            Now consider $g(x)=x^3$ and we have that $lim_{xto0}g(x)=0$ that is



            $$forallepsilon_1>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quadbigllvert x^3bigrrvert<epsilon_1$$



            then if we assume $delta=epsilon_1$ we have that



            $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quad bigllvert f(g(x))-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



            that is



            $$lim_{xto0}f(g(x))=lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$$



            and similarly for the opposite direction.






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              Asserting that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ means, as you wrote, that$$(forallvarepsilon>0)(existsdelta>0):lvert xrvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$So, take $delta^star=sqrt[3]delta$ and then$$lvert xrvert<delta^starimplieslvert x^3rvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x^3)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$In other words, $lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$. Can you do it in the opposite direction now?






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                Asserting that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ means, as you wrote, that$$(forallvarepsilon>0)(existsdelta>0):lvert xrvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$So, take $delta^star=sqrt[3]delta$ and then$$lvert xrvert<delta^starimplieslvert x^3rvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x^3)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$In other words, $lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$. Can you do it in the opposite direction now?






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                  Asserting that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ means, as you wrote, that$$(forallvarepsilon>0)(existsdelta>0):lvert xrvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$So, take $delta^star=sqrt[3]delta$ and then$$lvert xrvert<delta^starimplieslvert x^3rvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x^3)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$In other words, $lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$. Can you do it in the opposite direction now?






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                  Asserting that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ means, as you wrote, that$$(forallvarepsilon>0)(existsdelta>0):lvert xrvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$So, take $delta^star=sqrt[3]delta$ and then$$lvert xrvert<delta^starimplieslvert x^3rvert<deltaimpliesbigllvert f(x^3)-Lbigrrvert<varepsilon.$$In other words, $lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$. Can you do it in the opposite direction now?







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                      As an alternative we can proceed by composite function, assuming that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ it means that



                      $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta>0quad |x|<deltaquad bigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                      Now consider $g(x)=x^3$ and we have that $lim_{xto0}g(x)=0$ that is



                      $$forallepsilon_1>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quadbigllvert x^3bigrrvert<epsilon_1$$



                      then if we assume $delta=epsilon_1$ we have that



                      $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quad bigllvert f(g(x))-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                      that is



                      $$lim_{xto0}f(g(x))=lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$$



                      and similarly for the opposite direction.






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                        As an alternative we can proceed by composite function, assuming that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ it means that



                        $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta>0quad |x|<deltaquad bigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                        Now consider $g(x)=x^3$ and we have that $lim_{xto0}g(x)=0$ that is



                        $$forallepsilon_1>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quadbigllvert x^3bigrrvert<epsilon_1$$



                        then if we assume $delta=epsilon_1$ we have that



                        $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quad bigllvert f(g(x))-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                        that is



                        $$lim_{xto0}f(g(x))=lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$$



                        and similarly for the opposite direction.






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                          As an alternative we can proceed by composite function, assuming that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ it means that



                          $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta>0quad |x|<deltaquad bigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                          Now consider $g(x)=x^3$ and we have that $lim_{xto0}g(x)=0$ that is



                          $$forallepsilon_1>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quadbigllvert x^3bigrrvert<epsilon_1$$



                          then if we assume $delta=epsilon_1$ we have that



                          $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quad bigllvert f(g(x))-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                          that is



                          $$lim_{xto0}f(g(x))=lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$$



                          and similarly for the opposite direction.






                          share|cite|improve this answer












                          As an alternative we can proceed by composite function, assuming that $lim_{xto0}f(x)=L$ it means that



                          $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta>0quad |x|<deltaquad bigllvert f(x)-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                          Now consider $g(x)=x^3$ and we have that $lim_{xto0}g(x)=0$ that is



                          $$forallepsilon_1>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quadbigllvert x^3bigrrvert<epsilon_1$$



                          then if we assume $delta=epsilon_1$ we have that



                          $$forallepsilon>0quad existsdelta_1>0quad |x|<delta_1quad bigllvert f(g(x))-Lbigrrvert<epsilon$$



                          that is



                          $$lim_{xto0}f(g(x))=lim_{xto0}f(x^3)=L$$



                          and similarly for the opposite direction.







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