Substitution to get rid of cubic terms in a two-variable expression











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Consider the quadratic form



$$Q(u,v) = au^4 + bu^3v+cuv^3+du^2v^2+ev^4$$



If $a,b,c,d = 1$ then we can get rid of the cubic terms by substituting $u:=x-y, v:=x+y$. But what would be the general substitution for any value of $a,b,c,d$ to get rid of the cubic terms? I've experimented with $u:=x-frac{lambda}{x}$, $v:=y-frac{lambda}{y}$ (with $lambda$ to be determined later) but that dind't give me much result.










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    The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
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Consider the quadratic form



$$Q(u,v) = au^4 + bu^3v+cuv^3+du^2v^2+ev^4$$



If $a,b,c,d = 1$ then we can get rid of the cubic terms by substituting $u:=x-y, v:=x+y$. But what would be the general substitution for any value of $a,b,c,d$ to get rid of the cubic terms? I've experimented with $u:=x-frac{lambda}{x}$, $v:=y-frac{lambda}{y}$ (with $lambda$ to be determined later) but that dind't give me much result.










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    The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
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    Nov 23 at 14:02















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Consider the quadratic form



$$Q(u,v) = au^4 + bu^3v+cuv^3+du^2v^2+ev^4$$



If $a,b,c,d = 1$ then we can get rid of the cubic terms by substituting $u:=x-y, v:=x+y$. But what would be the general substitution for any value of $a,b,c,d$ to get rid of the cubic terms? I've experimented with $u:=x-frac{lambda}{x}$, $v:=y-frac{lambda}{y}$ (with $lambda$ to be determined later) but that dind't give me much result.










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Consider the quadratic form



$$Q(u,v) = au^4 + bu^3v+cuv^3+du^2v^2+ev^4$$



If $a,b,c,d = 1$ then we can get rid of the cubic terms by substituting $u:=x-y, v:=x+y$. But what would be the general substitution for any value of $a,b,c,d$ to get rid of the cubic terms? I've experimented with $u:=x-frac{lambda}{x}$, $v:=y-frac{lambda}{y}$ (with $lambda$ to be determined later) but that dind't give me much result.







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    The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
    – Paul Sinclair
    Nov 23 at 14:02
















  • 1




    The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
    – Paul Sinclair
    Nov 23 at 14:02










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The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
– Paul Sinclair
Nov 23 at 14:02






The trick that worked for $a,b,c,d=1$ was linear combinations of $x$ and $y$. Have you tried setting $u = Ax +By, v = Cx + Dy$, summing up the various expressions, and setting the coefficients of the cubic terms to $0$ to solve for $A, B, C, D$ in terms of $a,b,c,d,e$? With 2 equations in 4 unknowns, you should have infinitely many solutions, unless the 2 equations are contradictory.
– Paul Sinclair
Nov 23 at 14:02

















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