Solve $x^2frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+frac{dy}{dx}+x^2y=0$
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Solve the differential equation $$x^2frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+frac{dy}{dx}+x^2y=0$$
My try:
$$x^2 frac{frac{d^2y}{dx^2}}{y}=-x^2-frac{frac{dy}{dx}}{y}$$
RHS is a perfect differential, but LHS is not
any clue?
calculus algebra-precalculus ordinary-differential-equations
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Solve the differential equation $$x^2frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+frac{dy}{dx}+x^2y=0$$
My try:
$$x^2 frac{frac{d^2y}{dx^2}}{y}=-x^2-frac{frac{dy}{dx}}{y}$$
RHS is a perfect differential, but LHS is not
any clue?
calculus algebra-precalculus ordinary-differential-equations
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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– John B
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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– gammatester
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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yes i edited accordingly
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– Umesh shankar
Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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– user120527
Dec 5 '18 at 15:20
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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Solve the differential equation $$x^2frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+frac{dy}{dx}+x^2y=0$$
My try:
$$x^2 frac{frac{d^2y}{dx^2}}{y}=-x^2-frac{frac{dy}{dx}}{y}$$
RHS is a perfect differential, but LHS is not
any clue?
calculus algebra-precalculus ordinary-differential-equations
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Solve the differential equation $$x^2frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+frac{dy}{dx}+x^2y=0$$
My try:
$$x^2 frac{frac{d^2y}{dx^2}}{y}=-x^2-frac{frac{dy}{dx}}{y}$$
RHS is a perfect differential, but LHS is not
any clue?
calculus algebra-precalculus ordinary-differential-equations
calculus algebra-precalculus ordinary-differential-equations
edited Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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– John B
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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– gammatester
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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yes i edited accordingly
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– Umesh shankar
Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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– user120527
Dec 5 '18 at 15:20
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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– LutzL
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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– John B
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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– gammatester
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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yes i edited accordingly
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– Umesh shankar
Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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– user120527
Dec 5 '18 at 15:20
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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– LutzL
Dec 5 '18 at 15:21
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1
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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– John B
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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– John B
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
1
1
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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– gammatester
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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– gammatester
Dec 5 '18 at 14:47
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yes i edited accordingly
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– Umesh shankar
Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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yes i edited accordingly
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– Umesh shankar
Dec 5 '18 at 15:03
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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– user120527
Dec 5 '18 at 15:20
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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– user120527
Dec 5 '18 at 15:20
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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– LutzL
Dec 5 '18 at 15:21
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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Hint:
Let $y=e^{ix}u$ ,
Then $dfrac{dy}{dx}=e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u$
$dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u$
$therefore x^2left(e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}uright)+e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u+x^2e^{ix}u=0$
$x^2left(dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2idfrac{du}{dx}-uright)+dfrac{du}{dx}+iu+x^2u=0$
$x^2dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+(2ix^2+1)dfrac{du}{dx}+iu=0$
Which relates to Heun's Doubly-Confluent Equation.
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It is a Sturm Liouville equation, write
$$frac{d}{dx}left(e^{-1/x}y'(x)right)+e^{-1/x}y(x)=0$$
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You are on right track, but some clarification could be good for the untrained student.
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Hint:
Let $y=e^{ix}u$ ,
Then $dfrac{dy}{dx}=e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u$
$dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u$
$therefore x^2left(e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}uright)+e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u+x^2e^{ix}u=0$
$x^2left(dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2idfrac{du}{dx}-uright)+dfrac{du}{dx}+iu+x^2u=0$
$x^2dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+(2ix^2+1)dfrac{du}{dx}+iu=0$
Which relates to Heun's Doubly-Confluent Equation.
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Hint:
Let $y=e^{ix}u$ ,
Then $dfrac{dy}{dx}=e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u$
$dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u$
$therefore x^2left(e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}uright)+e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u+x^2e^{ix}u=0$
$x^2left(dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2idfrac{du}{dx}-uright)+dfrac{du}{dx}+iu+x^2u=0$
$x^2dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+(2ix^2+1)dfrac{du}{dx}+iu=0$
Which relates to Heun's Doubly-Confluent Equation.
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Hint:
Let $y=e^{ix}u$ ,
Then $dfrac{dy}{dx}=e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u$
$dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u$
$therefore x^2left(e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}uright)+e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u+x^2e^{ix}u=0$
$x^2left(dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2idfrac{du}{dx}-uright)+dfrac{du}{dx}+iu+x^2u=0$
$x^2dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+(2ix^2+1)dfrac{du}{dx}+iu=0$
Which relates to Heun's Doubly-Confluent Equation.
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Hint:
Let $y=e^{ix}u$ ,
Then $dfrac{dy}{dx}=e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u$
$dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u=e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}u$
$therefore x^2left(e^{ix}dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2ie^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}-e^{ix}uright)+e^{ix}dfrac{du}{dx}+ie^{ix}u+x^2e^{ix}u=0$
$x^2left(dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+2idfrac{du}{dx}-uright)+dfrac{du}{dx}+iu+x^2u=0$
$x^2dfrac{d^2u}{dx^2}+(2ix^2+1)dfrac{du}{dx}+iu=0$
Which relates to Heun's Doubly-Confluent Equation.
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It is a Sturm Liouville equation, write
$$frac{d}{dx}left(e^{-1/x}y'(x)right)+e^{-1/x}y(x)=0$$
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You are on right track, but some clarification could be good for the untrained student.
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It is a Sturm Liouville equation, write
$$frac{d}{dx}left(e^{-1/x}y'(x)right)+e^{-1/x}y(x)=0$$
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You are on right track, but some clarification could be good for the untrained student.
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It is a Sturm Liouville equation, write
$$frac{d}{dx}left(e^{-1/x}y'(x)right)+e^{-1/x}y(x)=0$$
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It is a Sturm Liouville equation, write
$$frac{d}{dx}left(e^{-1/x}y'(x)right)+e^{-1/x}y(x)=0$$
answered Dec 5 '18 at 15:23
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You are on right track, but some clarification could be good for the untrained student.
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What are y, y_1, y_2? My guess: y a function from R to R, y_1 is its derivative, and y_2 is its second derivative.
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Do you mean $y_2=y''$ etc ?
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Why do you think this should have a closed form ?
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What exactly is here understood under "solution"? A power series, asymptotic behaviour? Reduction to a Bessel or similar equation?
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