Epsilon-Delta Proof of Limits Being Equal
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How would I go about proving that two limits are equal to each other using the Epsilon-Delta definition?
Moreover how can I prove that: $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto a}f(x-a)$$ using the Epsilon-Delta definition? The intuition for this seem clear. However, I have do not know how a formal proof can be developed.
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Moreover how can I prove that: $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto a}f(x-a)$$ using the Epsilon-Delta definition? The intuition for this seem clear. However, I have do not know how a formal proof can be developed.
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If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
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Nov 23 at 17:31
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How would I go about proving that two limits are equal to each other using the Epsilon-Delta definition?
Moreover how can I prove that: $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto a}f(x-a)$$ using the Epsilon-Delta definition? The intuition for this seem clear. However, I have do not know how a formal proof can be developed.
calculus real-analysis limits
How would I go about proving that two limits are equal to each other using the Epsilon-Delta definition?
Moreover how can I prove that: $$lim_{xto0}f(x) = lim_{xto a}f(x-a)$$ using the Epsilon-Delta definition? The intuition for this seem clear. However, I have do not know how a formal proof can be developed.
calculus real-analysis limits
calculus real-analysis limits
asked Oct 9 '17 at 2:53
Michael Connor
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If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 23 at 17:31
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If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 23 at 17:31
If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 23 at 17:31
If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 23 at 17:31
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To show at least the second problem, assume that $lim_{xto 0} f(x) = L$. We will prove that $lim_{x to a}f(x-a) = L$.
By definition, we are to show : for all $epsilon > 0$, there exists $delta > 0$ such that
begin{equation}
|y - a |< delta implies |f(y-a) - L| < epsilon tag{1}
end{equation}
Fix one such $epsilon$, say $epsilon_0$.
We know that $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = L$. This means, that for the above $epsilon_0$, there exists some $delta_0 > 0$ such that begin{equation}|x - 0|( = |x|) < delta_0 implies |f(x) - L| < epsilon_0 tag{2}end{equation}
By taking $delta = delta_0$, we see that substituting $y-a = x$ in $(2)$ gives:
begin{equation}
|y-a| < delta_0
implies |f(y-a) - L |< epsilon_0 end{equation}
which is seen to be equivalent to statement $(1)$. Hence, $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x-a)$ is true.
I urge you to prove that if one of these limits does not exist, then the other also doesn't. This involves negation of the definition of limit i.e. what does it mean for $lim_{x to a} f(x) neq L$ for some constant $L$.
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
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express the first limit by the $epsilon/delta$ definition.
formally replace every occurrence of $x$ by $x-a$.
now you have the proof of the second limit.
I.e. rewrite
$$lim_{xto 0}f(x)=L
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x|<deltaimplies|f(x)-L|<epsilon
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x-a|<deltaimplies|f(x-a)-L|<epsilon
\iff\lim_{x-ato 0}f(x-a)=L.
$$
The argument holds because $x$ and $x-a$ cover the same set of values, and $lim_{x-ato0}$ is also $lim_{xto a}$.
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2 Answers
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To show at least the second problem, assume that $lim_{xto 0} f(x) = L$. We will prove that $lim_{x to a}f(x-a) = L$.
By definition, we are to show : for all $epsilon > 0$, there exists $delta > 0$ such that
begin{equation}
|y - a |< delta implies |f(y-a) - L| < epsilon tag{1}
end{equation}
Fix one such $epsilon$, say $epsilon_0$.
We know that $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = L$. This means, that for the above $epsilon_0$, there exists some $delta_0 > 0$ such that begin{equation}|x - 0|( = |x|) < delta_0 implies |f(x) - L| < epsilon_0 tag{2}end{equation}
By taking $delta = delta_0$, we see that substituting $y-a = x$ in $(2)$ gives:
begin{equation}
|y-a| < delta_0
implies |f(y-a) - L |< epsilon_0 end{equation}
which is seen to be equivalent to statement $(1)$. Hence, $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x-a)$ is true.
I urge you to prove that if one of these limits does not exist, then the other also doesn't. This involves negation of the definition of limit i.e. what does it mean for $lim_{x to a} f(x) neq L$ for some constant $L$.
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
add a comment |
up vote
1
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accepted
To show at least the second problem, assume that $lim_{xto 0} f(x) = L$. We will prove that $lim_{x to a}f(x-a) = L$.
By definition, we are to show : for all $epsilon > 0$, there exists $delta > 0$ such that
begin{equation}
|y - a |< delta implies |f(y-a) - L| < epsilon tag{1}
end{equation}
Fix one such $epsilon$, say $epsilon_0$.
We know that $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = L$. This means, that for the above $epsilon_0$, there exists some $delta_0 > 0$ such that begin{equation}|x - 0|( = |x|) < delta_0 implies |f(x) - L| < epsilon_0 tag{2}end{equation}
By taking $delta = delta_0$, we see that substituting $y-a = x$ in $(2)$ gives:
begin{equation}
|y-a| < delta_0
implies |f(y-a) - L |< epsilon_0 end{equation}
which is seen to be equivalent to statement $(1)$. Hence, $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x-a)$ is true.
I urge you to prove that if one of these limits does not exist, then the other also doesn't. This involves negation of the definition of limit i.e. what does it mean for $lim_{x to a} f(x) neq L$ for some constant $L$.
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
add a comment |
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To show at least the second problem, assume that $lim_{xto 0} f(x) = L$. We will prove that $lim_{x to a}f(x-a) = L$.
By definition, we are to show : for all $epsilon > 0$, there exists $delta > 0$ such that
begin{equation}
|y - a |< delta implies |f(y-a) - L| < epsilon tag{1}
end{equation}
Fix one such $epsilon$, say $epsilon_0$.
We know that $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = L$. This means, that for the above $epsilon_0$, there exists some $delta_0 > 0$ such that begin{equation}|x - 0|( = |x|) < delta_0 implies |f(x) - L| < epsilon_0 tag{2}end{equation}
By taking $delta = delta_0$, we see that substituting $y-a = x$ in $(2)$ gives:
begin{equation}
|y-a| < delta_0
implies |f(y-a) - L |< epsilon_0 end{equation}
which is seen to be equivalent to statement $(1)$. Hence, $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x-a)$ is true.
I urge you to prove that if one of these limits does not exist, then the other also doesn't. This involves negation of the definition of limit i.e. what does it mean for $lim_{x to a} f(x) neq L$ for some constant $L$.
To show at least the second problem, assume that $lim_{xto 0} f(x) = L$. We will prove that $lim_{x to a}f(x-a) = L$.
By definition, we are to show : for all $epsilon > 0$, there exists $delta > 0$ such that
begin{equation}
|y - a |< delta implies |f(y-a) - L| < epsilon tag{1}
end{equation}
Fix one such $epsilon$, say $epsilon_0$.
We know that $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = L$. This means, that for the above $epsilon_0$, there exists some $delta_0 > 0$ such that begin{equation}|x - 0|( = |x|) < delta_0 implies |f(x) - L| < epsilon_0 tag{2}end{equation}
By taking $delta = delta_0$, we see that substituting $y-a = x$ in $(2)$ gives:
begin{equation}
|y-a| < delta_0
implies |f(y-a) - L |< epsilon_0 end{equation}
which is seen to be equivalent to statement $(1)$. Hence, $lim_{x to 0} f(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x-a)$ is true.
I urge you to prove that if one of these limits does not exist, then the other also doesn't. This involves negation of the definition of limit i.e. what does it mean for $lim_{x to a} f(x) neq L$ for some constant $L$.
edited Oct 9 '17 at 3:35
answered Oct 9 '17 at 3:22
астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
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Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
add a comment |
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
Thank you! This was very clear and complete.
– Michael Connor
Oct 9 '17 at 13:43
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
You are welcome!
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Oct 9 '17 at 22:56
add a comment |
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express the first limit by the $epsilon/delta$ definition.
formally replace every occurrence of $x$ by $x-a$.
now you have the proof of the second limit.
I.e. rewrite
$$lim_{xto 0}f(x)=L
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x|<deltaimplies|f(x)-L|<epsilon
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x-a|<deltaimplies|f(x-a)-L|<epsilon
\iff\lim_{x-ato 0}f(x-a)=L.
$$
The argument holds because $x$ and $x-a$ cover the same set of values, and $lim_{x-ato0}$ is also $lim_{xto a}$.
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
express the first limit by the $epsilon/delta$ definition.
formally replace every occurrence of $x$ by $x-a$.
now you have the proof of the second limit.
I.e. rewrite
$$lim_{xto 0}f(x)=L
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x|<deltaimplies|f(x)-L|<epsilon
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x-a|<deltaimplies|f(x-a)-L|<epsilon
\iff\lim_{x-ato 0}f(x-a)=L.
$$
The argument holds because $x$ and $x-a$ cover the same set of values, and $lim_{x-ato0}$ is also $lim_{xto a}$.
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
express the first limit by the $epsilon/delta$ definition.
formally replace every occurrence of $x$ by $x-a$.
now you have the proof of the second limit.
I.e. rewrite
$$lim_{xto 0}f(x)=L
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x|<deltaimplies|f(x)-L|<epsilon
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x-a|<deltaimplies|f(x-a)-L|<epsilon
\iff\lim_{x-ato 0}f(x-a)=L.
$$
The argument holds because $x$ and $x-a$ cover the same set of values, and $lim_{x-ato0}$ is also $lim_{xto a}$.
express the first limit by the $epsilon/delta$ definition.
formally replace every occurrence of $x$ by $x-a$.
now you have the proof of the second limit.
I.e. rewrite
$$lim_{xto 0}f(x)=L
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x|<deltaimplies|f(x)-L|<epsilon
\iff
\forallepsilon>0:existsdelta>0:|x-a|<deltaimplies|f(x-a)-L|<epsilon
\iff\lim_{x-ato 0}f(x-a)=L.
$$
The argument holds because $x$ and $x-a$ cover the same set of values, and $lim_{x-ato0}$ is also $lim_{xto a}$.
answered Nov 23 at 17:41
Yves Daoust
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If the two limits are unrelated, you have no other option than computing them (by the $epsilon/delta$ definition) and comparing the values.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 23 at 17:31