solving the differential equation $(y''- 2y' - 3y = 2xe^{2x})$
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ok so i have this equation $y''- 2y' - 3y = 2xe^{2x}$. I have tried everything to find the right function to work with for example : i tried $Y(t) = Ax^3e^{2x}$ but it doesn't solve my equation tried with every power possible on $t$ . Am i missing a methodology or something ? can someone help me with this please ?
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ok so i have this equation $y''- 2y' - 3y = 2xe^{2x}$. I have tried everything to find the right function to work with for example : i tried $Y(t) = Ax^3e^{2x}$ but it doesn't solve my equation tried with every power possible on $t$ . Am i missing a methodology or something ? can someone help me with this please ?
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Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18
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ok so i have this equation $y''- 2y' - 3y = 2xe^{2x}$. I have tried everything to find the right function to work with for example : i tried $Y(t) = Ax^3e^{2x}$ but it doesn't solve my equation tried with every power possible on $t$ . Am i missing a methodology or something ? can someone help me with this please ?
differential
ok so i have this equation $y''- 2y' - 3y = 2xe^{2x}$. I have tried everything to find the right function to work with for example : i tried $Y(t) = Ax^3e^{2x}$ but it doesn't solve my equation tried with every power possible on $t$ . Am i missing a methodology or something ? can someone help me with this please ?
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Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18
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Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18
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Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18
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To eliminate the exponential term, Put $$y=ze^{2x}$$
then
$$y'=(z'+2z)e^{2x}$$
$$y''=(z''+4z'+4z)e^{2x}$$
the equation becomes
$$z''+2z'-3z=2x$$
without RHS, the solution is
$$z_h=Ae^x+Be^{-3x}$$
and the Polynomial particular solution $$z_p=-frac 23x-frac 49$$
The general solution is
$$y_G=(z_h+z_p)e^{2x}$$
Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
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Hint:
You have to
- find the general solution of the associated homogeneous equation $;y''-2y'-3y=0$.
- Find a particular solution a of the complete (non-homogeneous) equation, which will have the form
begin{cases}
(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}&text{if $2$ is not a root of the characteristic equation,} \
x(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a simple root of the characteristic equation,} \
x^2(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a double root of the characteristic equation.}
end{cases}
- Add this particular solution to the general solution of the homogeneous equation.
Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
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Here's a solution following the standard algorithm that Bernard suggests in his answer.
Solve the homogenous equation
$$y'' - 2y' - 3y = 0$$
to find $$y_H(x) = c_1e^{-x} + c_2e^{3x}.$$
Since $e^{2x}$ does not appear in the general solution, try $Y = (Ax+B)e^{2x}$, since it mimicks the form of the non-homogeneous term. Its derivatives are
$$Y' = Ae^{2x} + 2Y$$
$$Y'' = 2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'$$
Substitute into the differential equation to find
$$left(2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'right) - 2left(Ae^{2x} + 2Yright) -3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Y' - 7Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Ae^{2x} - 3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2A - 3(Ax+B) = 2x$$
$$(2+3A)x + (3B-2A) = 0$$
If this last equation is to hold for every $x$, then $2+3A=0$ and $3B-2A=0$. Thus $A=-2/3$ and $B = 2A/3 = -4/9$, so
$$Y(x) = -left(frac{2}{3}x + frac{4}{9}right)e^{2x}$$
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
0
down vote
accepted
hint
To eliminate the exponential term, Put $$y=ze^{2x}$$
then
$$y'=(z'+2z)e^{2x}$$
$$y''=(z''+4z'+4z)e^{2x}$$
the equation becomes
$$z''+2z'-3z=2x$$
without RHS, the solution is
$$z_h=Ae^x+Be^{-3x}$$
and the Polynomial particular solution $$z_p=-frac 23x-frac 49$$
The general solution is
$$y_G=(z_h+z_p)e^{2x}$$
Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
hint
To eliminate the exponential term, Put $$y=ze^{2x}$$
then
$$y'=(z'+2z)e^{2x}$$
$$y''=(z''+4z'+4z)e^{2x}$$
the equation becomes
$$z''+2z'-3z=2x$$
without RHS, the solution is
$$z_h=Ae^x+Be^{-3x}$$
and the Polynomial particular solution $$z_p=-frac 23x-frac 49$$
The general solution is
$$y_G=(z_h+z_p)e^{2x}$$
Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
add a comment |
up vote
0
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accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
hint
To eliminate the exponential term, Put $$y=ze^{2x}$$
then
$$y'=(z'+2z)e^{2x}$$
$$y''=(z''+4z'+4z)e^{2x}$$
the equation becomes
$$z''+2z'-3z=2x$$
without RHS, the solution is
$$z_h=Ae^x+Be^{-3x}$$
and the Polynomial particular solution $$z_p=-frac 23x-frac 49$$
The general solution is
$$y_G=(z_h+z_p)e^{2x}$$
hint
To eliminate the exponential term, Put $$y=ze^{2x}$$
then
$$y'=(z'+2z)e^{2x}$$
$$y''=(z''+4z'+4z)e^{2x}$$
the equation becomes
$$z''+2z'-3z=2x$$
without RHS, the solution is
$$z_h=Ae^x+Be^{-3x}$$
and the Polynomial particular solution $$z_p=-frac 23x-frac 49$$
The general solution is
$$y_G=(z_h+z_p)e^{2x}$$
edited Nov 23 at 17:37
answered Nov 23 at 17:27
hamam_Abdallah
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Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
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Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
Damn that's nice thinking ;o thanks alot man <3
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:34
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Hint:
You have to
- find the general solution of the associated homogeneous equation $;y''-2y'-3y=0$.
- Find a particular solution a of the complete (non-homogeneous) equation, which will have the form
begin{cases}
(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}&text{if $2$ is not a root of the characteristic equation,} \
x(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a simple root of the characteristic equation,} \
x^2(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a double root of the characteristic equation.}
end{cases}
- Add this particular solution to the general solution of the homogeneous equation.
Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Hint:
You have to
- find the general solution of the associated homogeneous equation $;y''-2y'-3y=0$.
- Find a particular solution a of the complete (non-homogeneous) equation, which will have the form
begin{cases}
(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}&text{if $2$ is not a root of the characteristic equation,} \
x(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a simple root of the characteristic equation,} \
x^2(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a double root of the characteristic equation.}
end{cases}
- Add this particular solution to the general solution of the homogeneous equation.
Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Hint:
You have to
- find the general solution of the associated homogeneous equation $;y''-2y'-3y=0$.
- Find a particular solution a of the complete (non-homogeneous) equation, which will have the form
begin{cases}
(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}&text{if $2$ is not a root of the characteristic equation,} \
x(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a simple root of the characteristic equation,} \
x^2(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a double root of the characteristic equation.}
end{cases}
- Add this particular solution to the general solution of the homogeneous equation.
Hint:
You have to
- find the general solution of the associated homogeneous equation $;y''-2y'-3y=0$.
- Find a particular solution a of the complete (non-homogeneous) equation, which will have the form
begin{cases}
(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}&text{if $2$ is not a root of the characteristic equation,} \
x(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a simple root of the characteristic equation,} \
x^2(ax+b)mathrm e^{2x}& text{if $2$ is a double root of the characteristic equation.}
end{cases}
- Add this particular solution to the general solution of the homogeneous equation.
answered Nov 23 at 17:33
Bernard
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Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
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Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
Thanks alot , tried stuff that lead to nowhere that;s pretty analytic ,thanks for the great response :) !
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:38
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Here's a solution following the standard algorithm that Bernard suggests in his answer.
Solve the homogenous equation
$$y'' - 2y' - 3y = 0$$
to find $$y_H(x) = c_1e^{-x} + c_2e^{3x}.$$
Since $e^{2x}$ does not appear in the general solution, try $Y = (Ax+B)e^{2x}$, since it mimicks the form of the non-homogeneous term. Its derivatives are
$$Y' = Ae^{2x} + 2Y$$
$$Y'' = 2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'$$
Substitute into the differential equation to find
$$left(2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'right) - 2left(Ae^{2x} + 2Yright) -3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Y' - 7Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Ae^{2x} - 3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2A - 3(Ax+B) = 2x$$
$$(2+3A)x + (3B-2A) = 0$$
If this last equation is to hold for every $x$, then $2+3A=0$ and $3B-2A=0$. Thus $A=-2/3$ and $B = 2A/3 = -4/9$, so
$$Y(x) = -left(frac{2}{3}x + frac{4}{9}right)e^{2x}$$
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up vote
0
down vote
Here's a solution following the standard algorithm that Bernard suggests in his answer.
Solve the homogenous equation
$$y'' - 2y' - 3y = 0$$
to find $$y_H(x) = c_1e^{-x} + c_2e^{3x}.$$
Since $e^{2x}$ does not appear in the general solution, try $Y = (Ax+B)e^{2x}$, since it mimicks the form of the non-homogeneous term. Its derivatives are
$$Y' = Ae^{2x} + 2Y$$
$$Y'' = 2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'$$
Substitute into the differential equation to find
$$left(2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'right) - 2left(Ae^{2x} + 2Yright) -3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Y' - 7Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Ae^{2x} - 3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2A - 3(Ax+B) = 2x$$
$$(2+3A)x + (3B-2A) = 0$$
If this last equation is to hold for every $x$, then $2+3A=0$ and $3B-2A=0$. Thus $A=-2/3$ and $B = 2A/3 = -4/9$, so
$$Y(x) = -left(frac{2}{3}x + frac{4}{9}right)e^{2x}$$
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up vote
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up vote
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down vote
Here's a solution following the standard algorithm that Bernard suggests in his answer.
Solve the homogenous equation
$$y'' - 2y' - 3y = 0$$
to find $$y_H(x) = c_1e^{-x} + c_2e^{3x}.$$
Since $e^{2x}$ does not appear in the general solution, try $Y = (Ax+B)e^{2x}$, since it mimicks the form of the non-homogeneous term. Its derivatives are
$$Y' = Ae^{2x} + 2Y$$
$$Y'' = 2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'$$
Substitute into the differential equation to find
$$left(2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'right) - 2left(Ae^{2x} + 2Yright) -3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Y' - 7Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Ae^{2x} - 3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2A - 3(Ax+B) = 2x$$
$$(2+3A)x + (3B-2A) = 0$$
If this last equation is to hold for every $x$, then $2+3A=0$ and $3B-2A=0$. Thus $A=-2/3$ and $B = 2A/3 = -4/9$, so
$$Y(x) = -left(frac{2}{3}x + frac{4}{9}right)e^{2x}$$
Here's a solution following the standard algorithm that Bernard suggests in his answer.
Solve the homogenous equation
$$y'' - 2y' - 3y = 0$$
to find $$y_H(x) = c_1e^{-x} + c_2e^{3x}.$$
Since $e^{2x}$ does not appear in the general solution, try $Y = (Ax+B)e^{2x}$, since it mimicks the form of the non-homogeneous term. Its derivatives are
$$Y' = Ae^{2x} + 2Y$$
$$Y'' = 2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'$$
Substitute into the differential equation to find
$$left(2Ae^{2x} + 2Y'right) - 2left(Ae^{2x} + 2Yright) -3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Y' - 7Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2Ae^{2x} - 3Y = 2xe^{2x}$$
$$2A - 3(Ax+B) = 2x$$
$$(2+3A)x + (3B-2A) = 0$$
If this last equation is to hold for every $x$, then $2+3A=0$ and $3B-2A=0$. Thus $A=-2/3$ and $B = 2A/3 = -4/9$, so
$$Y(x) = -left(frac{2}{3}x + frac{4}{9}right)e^{2x}$$
answered Nov 23 at 22:14
zahbaz
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Try $Y(x)=Axe^{2x}+Be^{2x}$
– Ben W
Nov 23 at 17:10
The ODE's on the title and body are different. Which one is correct?
– projectilemotion
Nov 23 at 17:13
sry i ll edit the tittle one is correct . Also tried that one ben i think that got it i found at the end $-3*A*x + 2*A - 3*B = 3*x $ so it was a system with the 1st $= 3*t$ and the second $= 0$
– Max
Nov 23 at 17:18