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If you develop a new mathematical expression for a function in an open usolved problem in mathematics, do you write a paper about it, or do you bring it into the mathematics community first? What about if someone else rips off the essential concepts and equations/expressions and write a paper about the findings before the original author does it? What would be your best advice to do in a situation like this? Since I feel the maths community is rather open and free I would think showing his or her work would not be an issue, but still I have not much knowledge about it.
Is it not best to keep the cards close to oneself before one actually reveals something that may do progress in some maths problem if someone elses rips it off like mentioned above? The person might not know what usage a mathematical expression might have or if it is not useful at all. For someone like myself writing a paper is alot of hard work because I need to learn math and terminology from scratch along the way. I do only know bits and pieces from different fields. Does math-people who write papers only write proofs in their papers or can one write about some particular mathematical expression one has derived from some other simple expression?
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If you develop a new mathematical expression for a function in an open usolved problem in mathematics, do you write a paper about it, or do you bring it into the mathematics community first? What about if someone else rips off the essential concepts and equations/expressions and write a paper about the findings before the original author does it? What would be your best advice to do in a situation like this? Since I feel the maths community is rather open and free I would think showing his or her work would not be an issue, but still I have not much knowledge about it.
Is it not best to keep the cards close to oneself before one actually reveals something that may do progress in some maths problem if someone elses rips it off like mentioned above? The person might not know what usage a mathematical expression might have or if it is not useful at all. For someone like myself writing a paper is alot of hard work because I need to learn math and terminology from scratch along the way. I do only know bits and pieces from different fields. Does math-people who write papers only write proofs in their papers or can one write about some particular mathematical expression one has derived from some other simple expression?
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How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
– rafa11111
Nov 24 at 0:53
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If you develop a new mathematical expression for a function in an open usolved problem in mathematics, do you write a paper about it, or do you bring it into the mathematics community first? What about if someone else rips off the essential concepts and equations/expressions and write a paper about the findings before the original author does it? What would be your best advice to do in a situation like this? Since I feel the maths community is rather open and free I would think showing his or her work would not be an issue, but still I have not much knowledge about it.
Is it not best to keep the cards close to oneself before one actually reveals something that may do progress in some maths problem if someone elses rips it off like mentioned above? The person might not know what usage a mathematical expression might have or if it is not useful at all. For someone like myself writing a paper is alot of hard work because I need to learn math and terminology from scratch along the way. I do only know bits and pieces from different fields. Does math-people who write papers only write proofs in their papers or can one write about some particular mathematical expression one has derived from some other simple expression?
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asked Nov 24 at 0:37
Natural Number Guy
450415
If you develop a new mathematical expression for a function in an open usolved problem in mathematics, do you write a paper about it, or do you bring it into the mathematics community first? What about if someone else rips off the essential concepts and equations/expressions and write a paper about the findings before the original author does it? What would be your best advice to do in a situation like this? Since I feel the maths community is rather open and free I would think showing his or her work would not be an issue, but still I have not much knowledge about it.
Is it not best to keep the cards close to oneself before one actually reveals something that may do progress in some maths problem if someone elses rips it off like mentioned above? The person might not know what usage a mathematical expression might have or if it is not useful at all. For someone like myself writing a paper is alot of hard work because I need to learn math and terminology from scratch along the way. I do only know bits and pieces from different fields. Does math-people who write papers only write proofs in their papers or can one write about some particular mathematical expression one has derived from some other simple expression?
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How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
– rafa11111
Nov 24 at 0:53
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How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
– rafa11111
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How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
– rafa11111
Nov 24 at 0:53
How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
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Write a paper, stick it on ArXiV. This is the way to introduce it to the mathematical community. It's open, and nobody will steal it, because in putting it there, there's a public record that it's yours. Besides which, unless you've produced a significant result on a major open problem (and, given that you're asking this question, you haven't) nobody will steal it anyway, because there every single mathematician that I know has a "interesting things to work on" list that's far too long for them to get through it in their entire career and getting longer all the time: bluntly, nobody has the time to "steal" your ideas.
As a side-note: whatever this "expression" is, it isn't publishable, and isn't worth anything at all. What can you prove with it? Why do I care? Nobody cares in the slightest about some meaningless symbol-manipulations.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
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I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
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1 Answer
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oldest
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active
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Write a paper, stick it on ArXiV. This is the way to introduce it to the mathematical community. It's open, and nobody will steal it, because in putting it there, there's a public record that it's yours. Besides which, unless you've produced a significant result on a major open problem (and, given that you're asking this question, you haven't) nobody will steal it anyway, because there every single mathematician that I know has a "interesting things to work on" list that's far too long for them to get through it in their entire career and getting longer all the time: bluntly, nobody has the time to "steal" your ideas.
As a side-note: whatever this "expression" is, it isn't publishable, and isn't worth anything at all. What can you prove with it? Why do I care? Nobody cares in the slightest about some meaningless symbol-manipulations.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
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up vote
1
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accepted
Write a paper, stick it on ArXiV. This is the way to introduce it to the mathematical community. It's open, and nobody will steal it, because in putting it there, there's a public record that it's yours. Besides which, unless you've produced a significant result on a major open problem (and, given that you're asking this question, you haven't) nobody will steal it anyway, because there every single mathematician that I know has a "interesting things to work on" list that's far too long for them to get through it in their entire career and getting longer all the time: bluntly, nobody has the time to "steal" your ideas.
As a side-note: whatever this "expression" is, it isn't publishable, and isn't worth anything at all. What can you prove with it? Why do I care? Nobody cares in the slightest about some meaningless symbol-manipulations.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Write a paper, stick it on ArXiV. This is the way to introduce it to the mathematical community. It's open, and nobody will steal it, because in putting it there, there's a public record that it's yours. Besides which, unless you've produced a significant result on a major open problem (and, given that you're asking this question, you haven't) nobody will steal it anyway, because there every single mathematician that I know has a "interesting things to work on" list that's far too long for them to get through it in their entire career and getting longer all the time: bluntly, nobody has the time to "steal" your ideas.
As a side-note: whatever this "expression" is, it isn't publishable, and isn't worth anything at all. What can you prove with it? Why do I care? Nobody cares in the slightest about some meaningless symbol-manipulations.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
Write a paper, stick it on ArXiV. This is the way to introduce it to the mathematical community. It's open, and nobody will steal it, because in putting it there, there's a public record that it's yours. Besides which, unless you've produced a significant result on a major open problem (and, given that you're asking this question, you haven't) nobody will steal it anyway, because there every single mathematician that I know has a "interesting things to work on" list that's far too long for them to get through it in their entire career and getting longer all the time: bluntly, nobody has the time to "steal" your ideas.
As a side-note: whatever this "expression" is, it isn't publishable, and isn't worth anything at all. What can you prove with it? Why do I care? Nobody cares in the slightest about some meaningless symbol-manipulations.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
user3482749
2,086414
2,086414
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
add a comment |
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
I would like to prove the Collatz with it. Which is wishful thinking I know. But maybe someone that is more drilled in math and smarter than me there can manipulate my expression and proof something?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:19
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
The expression I have does not look a tiddy bit similar like the original one. My function has a couple of numbers and it use a sigma discrete sum for each number. I have not seen a similar expression anywhere. I have derived it from an automaton I had made earlier that generate collatz sequences.
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:23
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
No part of that makes it interesting. What can you prove with it? Until you've proven something, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just meaningless symbols strung together into something that's still meaningless. It's like asking if the string ";asdoiadsifuasifusdar;oiuweard" has any value: of course it doesn't, because it doesn't mean anything. Prove something, then you might have something that somebody cares about (but probably not). Fiddling with some random symbols until it looks less simple than it started out is neither useful nor meaningful.
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 1:28
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
So, to publish a paper one has to have a proof of something or else it is meaningless?
– Natural Number Guy
Nov 24 at 1:31
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
Almost always, yes. There are occasional exceptions (papers bringing interesting open problems to the attention of the community, and making well-justified conjectures about them, being the only one that springs to mind).
– user3482749
Nov 24 at 12:25
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How would one bring some idea to the community without publishing a paper on it?
– rafa11111
Nov 24 at 0:53