Who decides who can enter a jointly owned property?
My partner and I are going through an acrimonious separation. I was forced out of our jointly owned house but am about to return until such time as we can sell it. He wanted to buy me out but has been so vile that I've decided not allow him. My concern is that while we are co-habiting the house, I will be subject to visits from his family who were pivotal in the breakdown of our relationship. Can I block their access?
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My partner and I are going through an acrimonious separation. I was forced out of our jointly owned house but am about to return until such time as we can sell it. He wanted to buy me out but has been so vile that I've decided not allow him. My concern is that while we are co-habiting the house, I will be subject to visits from his family who were pivotal in the breakdown of our relationship. Can I block their access?
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Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
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Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30
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My partner and I are going through an acrimonious separation. I was forced out of our jointly owned house but am about to return until such time as we can sell it. He wanted to buy me out but has been so vile that I've decided not allow him. My concern is that while we are co-habiting the house, I will be subject to visits from his family who were pivotal in the breakdown of our relationship. Can I block their access?
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My partner and I are going through an acrimonious separation. I was forced out of our jointly owned house but am about to return until such time as we can sell it. He wanted to buy me out but has been so vile that I've decided not allow him. My concern is that while we are co-habiting the house, I will be subject to visits from his family who were pivotal in the breakdown of our relationship. Can I block their access?
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asked Dec 24 '18 at 20:38
Deborah CameronDeborah Cameron
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Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
3
Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30
add a comment |
6
Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
3
Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30
6
6
Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
3
3
Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30
Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30
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Joint tenancy means that you both have equal (full) rights to the entire property, so just as you don't his permission to live there or to invite guests, he doesn't either. Unless they threaten you in some way (and you get a court order barring them from entering), there is no legal means to deprive an owner of their property rights, while they are still an owner.
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Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
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@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
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@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
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@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
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Joint tenancy means that you both have equal (full) rights to the entire property, so just as you don't his permission to live there or to invite guests, he doesn't either. Unless they threaten you in some way (and you get a court order barring them from entering), there is no legal means to deprive an owner of their property rights, while they are still an owner.
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Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
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@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
2
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
3
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
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Joint tenancy means that you both have equal (full) rights to the entire property, so just as you don't his permission to live there or to invite guests, he doesn't either. Unless they threaten you in some way (and you get a court order barring them from entering), there is no legal means to deprive an owner of their property rights, while they are still an owner.
2
Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
8
@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
2
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
3
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
|
show 5 more comments
Joint tenancy means that you both have equal (full) rights to the entire property, so just as you don't his permission to live there or to invite guests, he doesn't either. Unless they threaten you in some way (and you get a court order barring them from entering), there is no legal means to deprive an owner of their property rights, while they are still an owner.
Joint tenancy means that you both have equal (full) rights to the entire property, so just as you don't his permission to live there or to invite guests, he doesn't either. Unless they threaten you in some way (and you get a court order barring them from entering), there is no legal means to deprive an owner of their property rights, while they are still an owner.
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Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
8
@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
2
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
3
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
|
show 5 more comments
2
Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
8
@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
2
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
3
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
2
2
Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
Why does the right to invite guests trump the right(?) to keep people off your property?
– pipe
Dec 25 '18 at 0:51
8
8
@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
@pipe: you forego that right when you entered a joint-ownership situation.
– whatsisname
Dec 25 '18 at 3:39
2
2
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
@pipe because in many states, if they allowed one owner to unilaterally eject people it would cause a grey area with trespassing laws, and by extension open up a huge can of worms when it comes to defense of the home.
– Logarr
Dec 25 '18 at 4:37
3
3
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
@DeborahCameron If they are your belongings and not shared belongings, you can move them to a safe place before that happens. You'll have to find such a place eventually, your current situation isn't going to hold by the sound of it.
– Mast
Dec 25 '18 at 11:54
2
2
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
If both people have "equal full rights", in the current acrimonious situation, what would be the legal position if for example the OP moved out and requested the utility companies to cut off all supplies, and paid any fees involved themselves? Could the other party compel the OP to pay part or all of the cost of reconnection and be jointly liable for any future bills?
– alephzero
Dec 25 '18 at 13:28
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Beware that you sound like you're trying to cut your nose off to spite your face.
– Loren Pechtel
Dec 25 '18 at 3:52
I offered him the opportunity to see if he could buy me out. He then got two way too low valuations done in my absence which would’ve seen me about £20k out of pocket.
– Deborah Cameron
Dec 25 '18 at 6:05
3
Since he''d be buying you out, it's your job to get the valuation. As things a now, you're simply throwing rocks at his valuation. As well you might, since he has a conflict of interest. When it's entirely your people working for you, then you can believe it.
– Harper
Dec 25 '18 at 9:30