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I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.




$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$




Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.



Thanks in advance.



Summary



I considered again the results found in



Affine arc length



I started studying some specials curves:




  1. $omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & b \
    0 & c & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  2. $omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & b \
    0 & 0 & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  3. $omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & 0 \
    x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  4. $k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & costheta & sintheta \
    0 & -sintheta & costheta \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    and for $xy=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & 0 \
    0 & 0 & 1/a \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  5. $k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.











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    The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
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    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 16 '18 at 1:09










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    I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
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    – Marco All-in Nervo
    Dec 16 '18 at 8:52










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    $t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
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$begingroup$


Question



I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.




$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$




Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.



Thanks in advance.



Summary



I considered again the results found in



Affine arc length



I started studying some specials curves:




  1. $omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & b \
    0 & c & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  2. $omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & b \
    0 & 0 & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  3. $omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & 0 \
    x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  4. $k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & costheta & sintheta \
    0 & -sintheta & costheta \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    and for $xy=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & 0 \
    0 & 0 & 1/a \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  5. $k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.











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  • $begingroup$
    The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 16 '18 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
    $endgroup$
    – Marco All-in Nervo
    Dec 16 '18 at 8:52










  • $begingroup$
    $t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Dec 18 '18 at 18:57














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$begingroup$


Question



I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.




$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$




Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.



Thanks in advance.



Summary



I considered again the results found in



Affine arc length



I started studying some specials curves:




  1. $omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & b \
    0 & c & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  2. $omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & b \
    0 & 0 & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  3. $omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & 0 \
    x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  4. $k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & costheta & sintheta \
    0 & -sintheta & costheta \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    and for $xy=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & 0 \
    0 & 0 & 1/a \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  5. $k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.











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Question



I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.




$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$




Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.



Thanks in advance.



Summary



I considered again the results found in



Affine arc length



I started studying some specials curves:




  1. $omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & b \
    0 & c & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  2. $omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & b \
    0 & 0 & d \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  3. $omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    x & a & 0 \
    x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  4. $k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & costheta & sintheta \
    0 & -sintheta & costheta \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    and for $xy=1$
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 0 & 0 \
    0 & a & 0 \
    0 & 0 & 1/a \
    end{bmatrix}
    $$


  5. $k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.








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    The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 16 '18 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
    $endgroup$
    – Marco All-in Nervo
    Dec 16 '18 at 8:52










  • $begingroup$
    $t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Dec 18 '18 at 18:57


















  • $begingroup$
    The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 16 '18 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
    $endgroup$
    – Marco All-in Nervo
    Dec 16 '18 at 8:52










  • $begingroup$
    $t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
















$begingroup$
The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
$endgroup$
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09




$begingroup$
The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
$endgroup$
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09












$begingroup$
I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
$endgroup$
– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52




$begingroup$
I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
$endgroup$
– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52












$begingroup$
$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57




$begingroup$
$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
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I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.



I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:





  1. $dsigma^2 = 1$





    • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$


    • $P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$




  2. $dsigma^2 = -1$





    • $P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$


    • $P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$


    • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$




So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of





  1. $P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)


  2. $P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)


  3. $P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)


  4. $P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)


The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)






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    I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.



    I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:





    1. $dsigma^2 = 1$





      • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$


      • $P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$




    2. $dsigma^2 = -1$





      • $P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$


      • $P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$


      • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$




    So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of





    1. $P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)


    2. $P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)


    3. $P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)


    4. $P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)


    The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)






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      I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.



      I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:





      1. $dsigma^2 = 1$





        • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$


        • $P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$




      2. $dsigma^2 = -1$





        • $P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$


        • $P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$


        • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$




      So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of





      1. $P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)


      2. $P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)


      3. $P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)


      4. $P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)


      The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)






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        $begingroup$

        I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.



        I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:





        1. $dsigma^2 = 1$





          • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$


          • $P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$




        2. $dsigma^2 = -1$





          • $P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$


          • $P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$


          • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$




        So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of





        1. $P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)


        2. $P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)


        3. $P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)


        4. $P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)


        The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)






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        I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.



        I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:





        1. $dsigma^2 = 1$





          • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$


          • $P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$




        2. $dsigma^2 = -1$





          • $P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$


          • $P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$


          • $P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$




        So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of





        1. $P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)


        2. $P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)


        3. $P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)


        4. $P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)


        The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)







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