Affine plane curves with constant curvature
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I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.
$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$
Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.
Thanks in advance.
Summary
I considered again the results found in
Affine arc length
I started studying some specials curves:
$omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & b \
0 & c & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & b \
0 & 0 & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & 0 \
x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & costheta & sintheta \
0 & -sintheta & costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$
and for $xy=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1/a \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.
ordinary-differential-equations differential-geometry curves algebraic-curves plane-curves
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Question
I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.
$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$
Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.
Thanks in advance.
Summary
I considered again the results found in
Affine arc length
I started studying some specials curves:
$omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & b \
0 & c & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & b \
0 & 0 & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & 0 \
x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & costheta & sintheta \
0 & -sintheta & costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$
and for $xy=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1/a \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.
ordinary-differential-equations differential-geometry curves algebraic-curves plane-curves
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The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
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– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09
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I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
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– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
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$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
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– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
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Question
I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.
$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$
Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.
Thanks in advance.
Summary
I considered again the results found in
Affine arc length
I started studying some specials curves:
$omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & b \
0 & c & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & b \
0 & 0 & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & 0 \
x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & costheta & sintheta \
0 & -sintheta & costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$
and for $xy=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1/a \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.
ordinary-differential-equations differential-geometry curves algebraic-curves plane-curves
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Question
I want to solve this differential equation for $P : mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, a plane affine curve.
$ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$
Someone recognize this equation? Is a famous curve? Is algebraic? I think it will be a curve invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group.
Thanks in advance.
Summary
I considered again the results found in
Affine arc length
I started studying some specials curves:
$omega^1 = 0$. These are points and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & b \
0 & c & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_1^2 = 0$. These are straight lines and are invariant under the action of a 4-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = 0$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & b \
0 & 0 & d \
end{bmatrix}
$$$omega_2^1 = 0$. These are parabolas and are invariant under the action of a 2-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $y = x^2$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
x & a & 0 \
x^2 & 2ax & a^2 \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = 0$. These are ellipses and hyperbolas and are invariant under the action of a 1-parameter subgroup of the affine group. For example for $x^2+y^2=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & costheta & sintheta \
0 & -sintheta & costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$
and for $xy=1$
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & a & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1/a \
end{bmatrix}
$$$k = K$. I got the differential equation $ P'''(t) = frac{P'(t)}{t^2}$, but I don't know if it is a well-known curve and especially if it is still algebraic.
ordinary-differential-equations differential-geometry curves algebraic-curves plane-curves
ordinary-differential-equations differential-geometry curves algebraic-curves plane-curves
edited Dec 16 '18 at 10:17
Marco All-in Nervo
asked Dec 16 '18 at 0:57
Marco All-in NervoMarco All-in Nervo
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The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
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– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09
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I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
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– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
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$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
add a comment |
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The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
$endgroup$
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09
$begingroup$
I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
$endgroup$
– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
$begingroup$
$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
$begingroup$
The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
$endgroup$
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09
$begingroup$
The differential equation is not for $P$ "a plane curve" but for $P=P(t)$?
$endgroup$
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 16 '18 at 1:09
$begingroup$
I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
$endgroup$
– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
$begingroup$
I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
$endgroup$
– Marco All-in Nervo
Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
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$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
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$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57
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I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.
I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:
$dsigma^2 = 1$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$dsigma^2 = -1$
$P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$
$P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$
So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of
$P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)
$P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)
$P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)
$P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)
The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)
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I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.
I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:
$dsigma^2 = 1$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$dsigma^2 = -1$
$P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$
$P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$
So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of
$P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)
$P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)
$P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)
$P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)
The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)
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I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.
I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:
$dsigma^2 = 1$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$dsigma^2 = -1$
$P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$
$P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$
So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of
$P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)
$P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)
$P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)
$P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)
The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.
I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:
$dsigma^2 = 1$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$dsigma^2 = -1$
$P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$
$P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$
So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of
$P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)
$P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)
$P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)
$P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)
The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)
$endgroup$
I relaxed a bit the conditions about the parametrization.
I searched for P such that $P''' = alpha P'' + beta P'$ with $alpha, beta$ constant. So $lambda^{-1} = sqrt{alpha + frac{2}{9}beta^2}$. In particular I can choose $lambda = 1, i$. For example, if I choose $lambda =1$, I get $alpha = 1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2$ and $kappa = frac{beta}{3}$ and the equation $P''' - beta P'' - (1 - frac{2}{9}beta^2)P' = 0$ and that's easy to solve. So I have found:
$dsigma^2 = 1$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2+4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| neq frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$P = (t, e^{pmfrac{3}{sqrt{2}}t})$ for $|k| = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$
$dsigma^2 = -1$
$P = (e^{frac{3}{2}kt}cos{sqrt{4-k^2}t}, e^{frac{3}{2}kt}sin{sqrt{4-k^2}t}$) for $|k| < 2$
$P = (e^{pm3t}, te^{pm3t})$ for $|k| = 2$
$P = (e^{frac{3k-sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t}, e^{frac{3k+sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}t})$ for $|k| > 2$
So every curve with constant affine curvature is congruent to one of
$P = (t, t^{mu})$ with $mu ne frac{1}{2}, 2$ (from 1.1 and 2.3)
$P = (t, e^{pm t})$ (from 1.2)
$P = (e^t, pm te^t)$ (from 2.2)
$P = (e^{lambda t}cos t, e^{lambda t}sin t) $ (from 2.1)
The algebraic one are only of type 1 with $mu in mathbb{Q}$ (or type 4 with $lambda = 0$)
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I mean that I want to solve for $P$, where $P: mathbb{R} to mathbb{A}^2$, i.e. $P'''(t) = frac{P(t)}{t^2}$ with P vector-valued. I'll edit.
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Dec 16 '18 at 8:52
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$t^2P'''-P'=0$ is Euler-Cauchy for $P'$ with basis solutions $t^r$ where $0=r^2-r-1=(r-0.5)^2-1.25implies r=0.5(1pmsqrt5)$.
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– LutzL
Dec 18 '18 at 18:57