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Problem Given: Twelve years ago the age of $A$ was the double of age of $B$ and in the next twelve years, the age of $A$ would be $68$ years less than triple of $B$. Find the current ages.




What I've done is set up the equations



$$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$



where $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'



But the answer doesn't match with the solution on the book $A=52$ and $B=32$.



Could someone tell how to solve?










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    Problem Given: Twelve years ago the age of $A$ was the double of age of $B$ and in the next twelve years, the age of $A$ would be $68$ years less than triple of $B$. Find the current ages.




    What I've done is set up the equations



    $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$



    where $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'



    But the answer doesn't match with the solution on the book $A=52$ and $B=32$.



    Could someone tell how to solve?










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      Problem Given: Twelve years ago the age of $A$ was the double of age of $B$ and in the next twelve years, the age of $A$ would be $68$ years less than triple of $B$. Find the current ages.




      What I've done is set up the equations



      $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$



      where $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'



      But the answer doesn't match with the solution on the book $A=52$ and $B=32$.



      Could someone tell how to solve?










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      Problem Given: Twelve years ago the age of $A$ was the double of age of $B$ and in the next twelve years, the age of $A$ would be $68$ years less than triple of $B$. Find the current ages.




      What I've done is set up the equations



      $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$



      where $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'



      But the answer doesn't match with the solution on the book $A=52$ and $B=32$.



      Could someone tell how to solve?







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          Since for some reason no one felt the need to elaborate on where these equations came from, much less OP's error, I'll do it then.



          Though a word of import -- To note for future reference, OP, showing your process might help because otherwise no one can really understand where your own errors come from without it. I happened on your error by simply working the problem the same by mere coincidence; these problems can be solved many different ways, so it's merely luck we coincided.



          I'm going to start from the beginning.






          Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B and in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B. Find the current ages.




          Let $A,B$ denote the respective persons' ages. Then, since "Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B," we know



          $$A - 12 =2(B - 12) = 2B - 24 $$



          Similarly, per "in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B," we know



          $$A + 12 = 3(B+12) - 68 = 3B + 36 - 68 = 3B - 32$$



          This gives us a system of equations:



          $$A - 12 = 2B - 24$$
          $$A + 12 = 3B - 32$$



          Equivalently, since $A$ seems easiest to solve for,



          $$A = 2B - 12 = 3B - 44$$



          Thus, we have the equation in $B$, for which we solve:



          $$2B - 12 = 3B - 44 ;;; Rightarrow ;;; B = 32$$



          Plug $B = 32$ into any equation of our system of equations, and you'll find $A = 52$.





          As for where your error lies, OP, it's this:




          What I've done is
          $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$ where
          $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'




          That last $+12$ is unnecessary. Yes, it is in $12$ years from the present, but that $12$ years is meant to turn $x$ into $x+12$ (as you already have done in parentheses). Since, at that $12$-year-mark, the "$68$ less than the triple" relation is satisfied, you do not add a further $12$.






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          Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B so .........$$A-12 = 2(B - 12)$$



          $$2B - A = 12 tag{1}$$



          In the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B so ......$$3(B + 12) - (A + 12) = 68$$



          $$3B - A = 44 tag{2}$$



          Subtract $(1)$ from $(2)$:



          $$B = 32$$



          Then $$A = 52$$






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            The problem with your attempted solution is you are using one unknown $x$ for two people. You must use two unknowns for two people.



            You can organize all in table:
            $$begin{array}{c|c|c}
            &12 text{years ago}&Now& 12 text{year after}\
            hline
            Adam&A-12&A&A+12\
            Beth&B-12&B&B+12\
            hline
            Conditions&A-12=2(B-12)&&A+12=3(B+12)-68end{array}.$$

            Can you solve the system of two equations and find $A$ and $B$?






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            Since for some reason no one felt the need to elaborate on where these equations came from, much less OP's error, I'll do it then.



            Though a word of import -- To note for future reference, OP, showing your process might help because otherwise no one can really understand where your own errors come from without it. I happened on your error by simply working the problem the same by mere coincidence; these problems can be solved many different ways, so it's merely luck we coincided.



            I'm going to start from the beginning.






            Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B and in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B. Find the current ages.




            Let $A,B$ denote the respective persons' ages. Then, since "Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B," we know



            $$A - 12 =2(B - 12) = 2B - 24 $$



            Similarly, per "in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B," we know



            $$A + 12 = 3(B+12) - 68 = 3B + 36 - 68 = 3B - 32$$



            This gives us a system of equations:



            $$A - 12 = 2B - 24$$
            $$A + 12 = 3B - 32$$



            Equivalently, since $A$ seems easiest to solve for,



            $$A = 2B - 12 = 3B - 44$$



            Thus, we have the equation in $B$, for which we solve:



            $$2B - 12 = 3B - 44 ;;; Rightarrow ;;; B = 32$$



            Plug $B = 32$ into any equation of our system of equations, and you'll find $A = 52$.





            As for where your error lies, OP, it's this:




            What I've done is
            $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$ where
            $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'




            That last $+12$ is unnecessary. Yes, it is in $12$ years from the present, but that $12$ years is meant to turn $x$ into $x+12$ (as you already have done in parentheses). Since, at that $12$-year-mark, the "$68$ less than the triple" relation is satisfied, you do not add a further $12$.






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            $begingroup$

            Since for some reason no one felt the need to elaborate on where these equations came from, much less OP's error, I'll do it then.



            Though a word of import -- To note for future reference, OP, showing your process might help because otherwise no one can really understand where your own errors come from without it. I happened on your error by simply working the problem the same by mere coincidence; these problems can be solved many different ways, so it's merely luck we coincided.



            I'm going to start from the beginning.






            Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B and in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B. Find the current ages.




            Let $A,B$ denote the respective persons' ages. Then, since "Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B," we know



            $$A - 12 =2(B - 12) = 2B - 24 $$



            Similarly, per "in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B," we know



            $$A + 12 = 3(B+12) - 68 = 3B + 36 - 68 = 3B - 32$$



            This gives us a system of equations:



            $$A - 12 = 2B - 24$$
            $$A + 12 = 3B - 32$$



            Equivalently, since $A$ seems easiest to solve for,



            $$A = 2B - 12 = 3B - 44$$



            Thus, we have the equation in $B$, for which we solve:



            $$2B - 12 = 3B - 44 ;;; Rightarrow ;;; B = 32$$



            Plug $B = 32$ into any equation of our system of equations, and you'll find $A = 52$.





            As for where your error lies, OP, it's this:




            What I've done is
            $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$ where
            $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'




            That last $+12$ is unnecessary. Yes, it is in $12$ years from the present, but that $12$ years is meant to turn $x$ into $x+12$ (as you already have done in parentheses). Since, at that $12$-year-mark, the "$68$ less than the triple" relation is satisfied, you do not add a further $12$.






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            Since for some reason no one felt the need to elaborate on where these equations came from, much less OP's error, I'll do it then.



            Though a word of import -- To note for future reference, OP, showing your process might help because otherwise no one can really understand where your own errors come from without it. I happened on your error by simply working the problem the same by mere coincidence; these problems can be solved many different ways, so it's merely luck we coincided.



            I'm going to start from the beginning.






            Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B and in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B. Find the current ages.




            Let $A,B$ denote the respective persons' ages. Then, since "Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B," we know



            $$A - 12 =2(B - 12) = 2B - 24 $$



            Similarly, per "in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B," we know



            $$A + 12 = 3(B+12) - 68 = 3B + 36 - 68 = 3B - 32$$



            This gives us a system of equations:



            $$A - 12 = 2B - 24$$
            $$A + 12 = 3B - 32$$



            Equivalently, since $A$ seems easiest to solve for,



            $$A = 2B - 12 = 3B - 44$$



            Thus, we have the equation in $B$, for which we solve:



            $$2B - 12 = 3B - 44 ;;; Rightarrow ;;; B = 32$$



            Plug $B = 32$ into any equation of our system of equations, and you'll find $A = 52$.





            As for where your error lies, OP, it's this:




            What I've done is
            $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$ where
            $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'




            That last $+12$ is unnecessary. Yes, it is in $12$ years from the present, but that $12$ years is meant to turn $x$ into $x+12$ (as you already have done in parentheses). Since, at that $12$-year-mark, the "$68$ less than the triple" relation is satisfied, you do not add a further $12$.






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            Since for some reason no one felt the need to elaborate on where these equations came from, much less OP's error, I'll do it then.



            Though a word of import -- To note for future reference, OP, showing your process might help because otherwise no one can really understand where your own errors come from without it. I happened on your error by simply working the problem the same by mere coincidence; these problems can be solved many different ways, so it's merely luck we coincided.



            I'm going to start from the beginning.






            Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B and in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B. Find the current ages.




            Let $A,B$ denote the respective persons' ages. Then, since "Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B," we know



            $$A - 12 =2(B - 12) = 2B - 24 $$



            Similarly, per "in the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B," we know



            $$A + 12 = 3(B+12) - 68 = 3B + 36 - 68 = 3B - 32$$



            This gives us a system of equations:



            $$A - 12 = 2B - 24$$
            $$A + 12 = 3B - 32$$



            Equivalently, since $A$ seems easiest to solve for,



            $$A = 2B - 12 = 3B - 44$$



            Thus, we have the equation in $B$, for which we solve:



            $$2B - 12 = 3B - 44 ;;; Rightarrow ;;; B = 32$$



            Plug $B = 32$ into any equation of our system of equations, and you'll find $A = 52$.





            As for where your error lies, OP, it's this:




            What I've done is
            $$2x-12=3(x+12)-68+12$$ where
            $2x-12$ is the age of $A$, $3(x+12)$ is the triple of age of $B$ in the future $(+12)$. And the last $12$ because in the sentence says 'is in the next twelve years.'




            That last $+12$ is unnecessary. Yes, it is in $12$ years from the present, but that $12$ years is meant to turn $x$ into $x+12$ (as you already have done in parentheses). Since, at that $12$-year-mark, the "$68$ less than the triple" relation is satisfied, you do not add a further $12$.







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            Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B so .........$$A-12 = 2(B - 12)$$



            $$2B - A = 12 tag{1}$$



            In the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B so ......$$3(B + 12) - (A + 12) = 68$$



            $$3B - A = 44 tag{2}$$



            Subtract $(1)$ from $(2)$:



            $$B = 32$$



            Then $$A = 52$$






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              Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B so .........$$A-12 = 2(B - 12)$$



              $$2B - A = 12 tag{1}$$



              In the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B so ......$$3(B + 12) - (A + 12) = 68$$



              $$3B - A = 44 tag{2}$$



              Subtract $(1)$ from $(2)$:



              $$B = 32$$



              Then $$A = 52$$






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                Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B so .........$$A-12 = 2(B - 12)$$



                $$2B - A = 12 tag{1}$$



                In the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B so ......$$3(B + 12) - (A + 12) = 68$$



                $$3B - A = 44 tag{2}$$



                Subtract $(1)$ from $(2)$:



                $$B = 32$$



                Then $$A = 52$$






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                Twelve years ago the age of A was the double of age of B so .........$$A-12 = 2(B - 12)$$



                $$2B - A = 12 tag{1}$$



                In the next twelve years, the age of A would be 68 years less than triple of B so ......$$3(B + 12) - (A + 12) = 68$$



                $$3B - A = 44 tag{2}$$



                Subtract $(1)$ from $(2)$:



                $$B = 32$$



                Then $$A = 52$$







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                    The problem with your attempted solution is you are using one unknown $x$ for two people. You must use two unknowns for two people.



                    You can organize all in table:
                    $$begin{array}{c|c|c}
                    &12 text{years ago}&Now& 12 text{year after}\
                    hline
                    Adam&A-12&A&A+12\
                    Beth&B-12&B&B+12\
                    hline
                    Conditions&A-12=2(B-12)&&A+12=3(B+12)-68end{array}.$$

                    Can you solve the system of two equations and find $A$ and $B$?






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                    The problem with your attempted solution is you are using one unknown $x$ for two people. You must use two unknowns for two people.



                    You can organize all in table:
                    $$begin{array}{c|c|c}
                    &12 text{years ago}&Now& 12 text{year after}\
                    hline
                    Adam&A-12&A&A+12\
                    Beth&B-12&B&B+12\
                    hline
                    Conditions&A-12=2(B-12)&&A+12=3(B+12)-68end{array}.$$

                    Can you solve the system of two equations and find $A$ and $B$?






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                    $begingroup$

                    The problem with your attempted solution is you are using one unknown $x$ for two people. You must use two unknowns for two people.



                    You can organize all in table:
                    $$begin{array}{c|c|c}
                    &12 text{years ago}&Now& 12 text{year after}\
                    hline
                    Adam&A-12&A&A+12\
                    Beth&B-12&B&B+12\
                    hline
                    Conditions&A-12=2(B-12)&&A+12=3(B+12)-68end{array}.$$

                    Can you solve the system of two equations and find $A$ and $B$?






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                    The problem with your attempted solution is you are using one unknown $x$ for two people. You must use two unknowns for two people.



                    You can organize all in table:
                    $$begin{array}{c|c|c}
                    &12 text{years ago}&Now& 12 text{year after}\
                    hline
                    Adam&A-12&A&A+12\
                    Beth&B-12&B&B+12\
                    hline
                    Conditions&A-12=2(B-12)&&A+12=3(B+12)-68end{array}.$$

                    Can you solve the system of two equations and find $A$ and $B$?







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