How to evaluate the total probability using conditional probabilities?
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
Suppose we have 2 events $C_1$ and $C_2$ so that $C_1$, $C_2$, $C_1'$ and $C_2'$ partition the probability space. Let the event I'm interested in be denoted by $X$. $C_1$ and $C_2$ and their complements are conditionally independent given $X$. The probability of $X$ is given by,
begin{equation*}
P(X)=P(X|C_1,C_2)P(C_1,C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2)P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1,C_2')P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2')P(C_1',C_2')
end{equation*}
Using conditional independence, we evaluate this as follows,
begin{equation*}
P(X) =P(C_1|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)
end{equation*}
But then I have $P(X)$ on both side of the equality in the second equation. Is there a difference between these two (are the ones on the RHS the prior probability and the $P(X)$ on the LHS the posterior)? Any clarification would be appreciated.
In my case $P(X)$ is unknown, and I'm trying to solve for it. Would I go about this by guessing values of $P(X)$ for those on the RHS and evaluate this for the value of $P(X)$ on the LHS?
probability probability-theory bayesian
New contributor
|
show 2 more comments
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
Suppose we have 2 events $C_1$ and $C_2$ so that $C_1$, $C_2$, $C_1'$ and $C_2'$ partition the probability space. Let the event I'm interested in be denoted by $X$. $C_1$ and $C_2$ and their complements are conditionally independent given $X$. The probability of $X$ is given by,
begin{equation*}
P(X)=P(X|C_1,C_2)P(C_1,C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2)P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1,C_2')P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2')P(C_1',C_2')
end{equation*}
Using conditional independence, we evaluate this as follows,
begin{equation*}
P(X) =P(C_1|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)
end{equation*}
But then I have $P(X)$ on both side of the equality in the second equation. Is there a difference between these two (are the ones on the RHS the prior probability and the $P(X)$ on the LHS the posterior)? Any clarification would be appreciated.
In my case $P(X)$ is unknown, and I'm trying to solve for it. Would I go about this by guessing values of $P(X)$ for those on the RHS and evaluate this for the value of $P(X)$ on the LHS?
probability probability-theory bayesian
New contributor
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17
|
show 2 more comments
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
Suppose we have 2 events $C_1$ and $C_2$ so that $C_1$, $C_2$, $C_1'$ and $C_2'$ partition the probability space. Let the event I'm interested in be denoted by $X$. $C_1$ and $C_2$ and their complements are conditionally independent given $X$. The probability of $X$ is given by,
begin{equation*}
P(X)=P(X|C_1,C_2)P(C_1,C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2)P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1,C_2')P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2')P(C_1',C_2')
end{equation*}
Using conditional independence, we evaluate this as follows,
begin{equation*}
P(X) =P(C_1|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)
end{equation*}
But then I have $P(X)$ on both side of the equality in the second equation. Is there a difference between these two (are the ones on the RHS the prior probability and the $P(X)$ on the LHS the posterior)? Any clarification would be appreciated.
In my case $P(X)$ is unknown, and I'm trying to solve for it. Would I go about this by guessing values of $P(X)$ for those on the RHS and evaluate this for the value of $P(X)$ on the LHS?
probability probability-theory bayesian
New contributor
Suppose we have 2 events $C_1$ and $C_2$ so that $C_1$, $C_2$, $C_1'$ and $C_2'$ partition the probability space. Let the event I'm interested in be denoted by $X$. $C_1$ and $C_2$ and their complements are conditionally independent given $X$. The probability of $X$ is given by,
begin{equation*}
P(X)=P(X|C_1,C_2)P(C_1,C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2)P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1,C_2')P(C_1',C_2)+P(X|C_1',C_2')P(C_1',C_2')
end{equation*}
Using conditional independence, we evaluate this as follows,
begin{equation*}
P(X) =P(C_1|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2|X)P(X)+P(C_1|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)+P(C_1'|X)P(C_2'|X)P(X)
end{equation*}
But then I have $P(X)$ on both side of the equality in the second equation. Is there a difference between these two (are the ones on the RHS the prior probability and the $P(X)$ on the LHS the posterior)? Any clarification would be appreciated.
In my case $P(X)$ is unknown, and I'm trying to solve for it. Would I go about this by guessing values of $P(X)$ for those on the RHS and evaluate this for the value of $P(X)$ on the LHS?
probability probability-theory bayesian
probability probability-theory bayesian
New contributor
New contributor
edited Nov 20 at 15:15
New contributor
asked Nov 20 at 15:01
user617643
226
226
New contributor
New contributor
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17
|
show 2 more comments
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17
|
show 2 more comments
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
user617643 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user617643 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user617643 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user617643 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3006420%2fhow-to-evaluate-the-total-probability-using-conditional-probabilities%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
What if you divide both sides by $P(X)?$
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:07
Then I get $1$ on the LHS.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:08
Yes, but look at the right-hand side.
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:15
That is the sum of the probabilities of the possible outcomes.
– user617643
Nov 20 at 15:16
Doesn't that answer you question?
– saulspatz
Nov 20 at 15:17