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A single word or phrase for turning events (historical/recent) into fiction.Like based on real events, but fictious. Like some myths that have been derived from real events.




'romanticized' but that means turning things into good/idealistic.I'm looking for a word that is neutral.











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A single word or phrase for turning events (historical/recent) into fiction.Like based on real events, but fictious. Like some myths that have been derived from real events.




'romanticized' but that means turning things into good/idealistic.I'm looking for a word that is neutral.











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A single word or phrase for turning events (historical/recent) into fiction.Like based on real events, but fictious. Like some myths that have been derived from real events.




'romanticized' but that means turning things into good/idealistic.I'm looking for a word that is neutral.











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A single word or phrase for turning events (historical/recent) into fiction.Like based on real events, but fictious. Like some myths that have been derived from real events.




'romanticized' but that means turning things into good/idealistic.I'm looking for a word that is neutral.








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Fictionalise (Am. Eng fictionalize)




verb



To fictionalize an account of something that really happened
means to tell it as a story, with some details changed or added.







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    This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

    – Michael Richardson
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:00











  • In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:48



















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"Fictionalise"/"fictionalize" (depending on local spelling) is - as already suggested - probably the closest, but I've also seen "dramatise"/"dramatize" (often as "dramatisation") used.



I want to say that the word for turning real events into fiction is "journalism", but that's probably not as helpful as I think it is.






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  • On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

    – Joe
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:28






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    I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

    – Jim
    Dec 23 '18 at 0:10











  • I have to +1 for journalism

    – Sod Almighty
    Dec 25 '18 at 3:05



















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A related literary term is roman à clef ('story with a key') in which real persons and events are overlaid with fictional persons and events.






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  • Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:50






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    @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

    – Jim Mack
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:27



















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allegorise (Am. Eng. allegorize)



Verb, from:



Noun: allegory




figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.







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    According to Oxford Living Dictionary:



    FACTION
    mass noun



    A literary and cinematic genre in which real events are used as a basis for a fictional narrative or dramatization.



    ‘the current vogue for faction seems about to overwhelm narrative history.



    'FACTION' is a blend of 'fact' and 'fiction'.






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      That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      Dec 22 '18 at 9:42






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      I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

      – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
      Dec 22 '18 at 11:06











    • Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

      – user307254
      Dec 22 '18 at 11:29






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      @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

      – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
      Dec 22 '18 at 12:24


















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    Fictionalise (Am. Eng fictionalize)




    verb



    To fictionalize an account of something that really happened
    means to tell it as a story, with some details changed or added.







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    • 5





      This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

      – Michael Richardson
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:00











    • In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:48
















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    Fictionalise (Am. Eng fictionalize)




    verb



    To fictionalize an account of something that really happened
    means to tell it as a story, with some details changed or added.







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    • 5





      This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

      – Michael Richardson
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:00











    • In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:48














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    Fictionalise (Am. Eng fictionalize)




    verb



    To fictionalize an account of something that really happened
    means to tell it as a story, with some details changed or added.







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    Fictionalise (Am. Eng fictionalize)




    verb



    To fictionalize an account of something that really happened
    means to tell it as a story, with some details changed or added.








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    • 5





      This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

      – Michael Richardson
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:00











    • In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:48














    • 5





      This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

      – Michael Richardson
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:00











    • In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:48








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    5





    This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

    – Michael Richardson
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:00





    This is the best answer. Alternatives that do not literally mean this, but should almost always be read as such are: "Based on actual events" and "Based on a true story".

    – Michael Richardson
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:00













    In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:48





    In wikitionary they attributed 'alter real events by adding flasehood' to it's meaning , but thanks for the definition :).

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:48













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    "Fictionalise"/"fictionalize" (depending on local spelling) is - as already suggested - probably the closest, but I've also seen "dramatise"/"dramatize" (often as "dramatisation") used.



    I want to say that the word for turning real events into fiction is "journalism", but that's probably not as helpful as I think it is.






    share|improve this answer
























    • On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

      – Joe
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:28






    • 2





      I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

      – Jim
      Dec 23 '18 at 0:10











    • I have to +1 for journalism

      – Sod Almighty
      Dec 25 '18 at 3:05
















    14














    "Fictionalise"/"fictionalize" (depending on local spelling) is - as already suggested - probably the closest, but I've also seen "dramatise"/"dramatize" (often as "dramatisation") used.



    I want to say that the word for turning real events into fiction is "journalism", but that's probably not as helpful as I think it is.






    share|improve this answer
























    • On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

      – Joe
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:28






    • 2





      I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

      – Jim
      Dec 23 '18 at 0:10











    • I have to +1 for journalism

      – Sod Almighty
      Dec 25 '18 at 3:05














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    "Fictionalise"/"fictionalize" (depending on local spelling) is - as already suggested - probably the closest, but I've also seen "dramatise"/"dramatize" (often as "dramatisation") used.



    I want to say that the word for turning real events into fiction is "journalism", but that's probably not as helpful as I think it is.






    share|improve this answer













    "Fictionalise"/"fictionalize" (depending on local spelling) is - as already suggested - probably the closest, but I've also seen "dramatise"/"dramatize" (often as "dramatisation") used.



    I want to say that the word for turning real events into fiction is "journalism", but that's probably not as helpful as I think it is.







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    answered Dec 22 '18 at 11:00









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    • On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

      – Joe
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:28






    • 2





      I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

      – Jim
      Dec 23 '18 at 0:10











    • I have to +1 for journalism

      – Sod Almighty
      Dec 25 '18 at 3:05



















    • On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

      – Joe
      Dec 22 '18 at 16:28






    • 2





      I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

      – Jim
      Dec 23 '18 at 0:10











    • I have to +1 for journalism

      – Sod Almighty
      Dec 25 '18 at 3:05

















    On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

    – Joe
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:28





    On the 'drama' side of things, there's also the related 'dramatic license', although that doesn't fit in this context.

    – Joe
    Dec 22 '18 at 16:28




    2




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    I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

    – Jim
    Dec 23 '18 at 0:10





    I like dramatize But I have to -1 for journalism

    – Jim
    Dec 23 '18 at 0:10













    I have to +1 for journalism

    – Sod Almighty
    Dec 25 '18 at 3:05





    I have to +1 for journalism

    – Sod Almighty
    Dec 25 '18 at 3:05











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    A related literary term is roman à clef ('story with a key') in which real persons and events are overlaid with fictional persons and events.






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    • Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:50






    • 1





      @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

      – Jim Mack
      Dec 23 '18 at 14:27
















    7














    A related literary term is roman à clef ('story with a key') in which real persons and events are overlaid with fictional persons and events.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:50






    • 1





      @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

      – Jim Mack
      Dec 23 '18 at 14:27














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    A related literary term is roman à clef ('story with a key') in which real persons and events are overlaid with fictional persons and events.






    share|improve this answer













    A related literary term is roman à clef ('story with a key') in which real persons and events are overlaid with fictional persons and events.







    share|improve this answer












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    • Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:50






    • 1





      @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

      – Jim Mack
      Dec 23 '18 at 14:27



















    • Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

      – Rum
      Dec 23 '18 at 9:50






    • 1





      @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

      – Jim Mack
      Dec 23 '18 at 14:27

















    Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:50





    Would it still have the same meaning if the characters/events were based on real persons? Or does the characters intrinsically have to be real?

    – Rum
    Dec 23 '18 at 9:50




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    @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

    – Jim Mack
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:27





    @Rum - as you can see from the linked definition, the term is a bit flexible and can be used to cover either situation. Usually, it means a thinly disguised account of a real situation and real person(s).

    – Jim Mack
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:27











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    allegorise (Am. Eng. allegorize)



    Verb, from:



    Noun: allegory




    figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.







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      allegorise (Am. Eng. allegorize)



      Verb, from:



      Noun: allegory




      figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.







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        allegorise (Am. Eng. allegorize)



        Verb, from:



        Noun: allegory




        figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.







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        allegorise (Am. Eng. allegorize)



        Verb, from:



        Noun: allegory




        figurative treatment of one subject under the guise of another.








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            According to Oxford Living Dictionary:



            FACTION
            mass noun



            A literary and cinematic genre in which real events are used as a basis for a fictional narrative or dramatization.



            ‘the current vogue for faction seems about to overwhelm narrative history.



            'FACTION' is a blend of 'fact' and 'fiction'.






            share|improve this answer





















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              That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

              – Janus Bahs Jacquet
              Dec 22 '18 at 9:42






            • 6





              I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:06











            • Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

              – user307254
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:29






            • 1





              @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 12:24
















            -1














            According to Oxford Living Dictionary:



            FACTION
            mass noun



            A literary and cinematic genre in which real events are used as a basis for a fictional narrative or dramatization.



            ‘the current vogue for faction seems about to overwhelm narrative history.



            'FACTION' is a blend of 'fact' and 'fiction'.






            share|improve this answer





















            • 5





              That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

              – Janus Bahs Jacquet
              Dec 22 '18 at 9:42






            • 6





              I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:06











            • Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

              – user307254
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:29






            • 1





              @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 12:24














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            -1







            According to Oxford Living Dictionary:



            FACTION
            mass noun



            A literary and cinematic genre in which real events are used as a basis for a fictional narrative or dramatization.



            ‘the current vogue for faction seems about to overwhelm narrative history.



            'FACTION' is a blend of 'fact' and 'fiction'.






            share|improve this answer















            According to Oxford Living Dictionary:



            FACTION
            mass noun



            A literary and cinematic genre in which real events are used as a basis for a fictional narrative or dramatization.



            ‘the current vogue for faction seems about to overwhelm narrative history.



            'FACTION' is a blend of 'fact' and 'fiction'.







            share|improve this answer














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            • 5





              That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

              – Janus Bahs Jacquet
              Dec 22 '18 at 9:42






            • 6





              I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:06











            • Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

              – user307254
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:29






            • 1





              @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 12:24














            • 5





              That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

              – Janus Bahs Jacquet
              Dec 22 '18 at 9:42






            • 6





              I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:06











            • Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

              – user307254
              Dec 22 '18 at 11:29






            • 1





              @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

              – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
              Dec 22 '18 at 12:24








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            That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

            – Janus Bahs Jacquet
            Dec 22 '18 at 9:42





            That’s not a verb meaning ‘turn into fiction’, though.

            – Janus Bahs Jacquet
            Dec 22 '18 at 9:42




            6




            6





            I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

            – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
            Dec 22 '18 at 11:06





            I'm not about to vote down, but I would disagree. Perhaps O.L.D. has incorporated a portmanteau neologism, but "faction" already has a meaning - a group, bloc, party or sect often - but not necessarily - political [thesaurus.com].

            – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
            Dec 22 '18 at 11:06













            Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

            – user307254
            Dec 22 '18 at 11:29





            Then we can say there are two homonyms which are the result of convergence of two different words.

            – user307254
            Dec 22 '18 at 11:29




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            @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

            – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
            Dec 22 '18 at 12:24





            @user307254 - Eventually, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. As far as I'm concerned the O.L.D. definition is just plain wrong - but I recognise I might just be part of a group, bloc, sect etc. with that view...

            – ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
            Dec 22 '18 at 12:24



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