Find the specified particular solution of ($x^2+2y')y''+2xy'=0$ while $y(0)=1$ and $y'(0)=0$











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In this problem I am able to understand that it must be solved using reduction of order. But I am not able to proceed with the sum & also I am confused of where to substitute the given values of $y$ and $y'$.










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  • I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
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  • I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
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In this problem I am able to understand that it must be solved using reduction of order. But I am not able to proceed with the sum & also I am confused of where to substitute the given values of $y$ and $y'$.










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  • I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
    – Renuka
    Nov 25 at 10:06


















  • I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
    – Renuka
    Nov 25 at 10:06
















I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
– Renuka
Nov 25 at 10:06




I got stuck up again. I proceeded as you told but I am getting it as (x^2 + 2p)^2=x^4+C. Now how to separate the variables??. Sorry for the trouble.
– Renuka
Nov 25 at 10:06










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We have$$2y'y''+x^2y''+2xy'=0$$by integrating we obtain$$(y')^2+(x^2y')+C=0$$since $y'(0)=0$ we have $C=0$ which yields to $$y'=0\text{and/or}\ y'+x^2=0$$therefore$$y=D\text{and/or}\ y'=-{x^3over 3}+D$$once more we have $y(0)=1$ therefore $$y=1\text{and/or }\y=1-{x^3over 3}$$






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    Start with $p=y'$ to get
    $$left(2 p+x^2right) p'+2 x p=0qquad text{with}qquad p(0)=0$$
    Let now $$u=2p+x^2implies p=frac {u-x^2}2implies p'=frac{u'-2x}2$$ Replace to get
    $$frac{1}{2} u u'-x^3=0$$ which seems to be easy to integrate.



    When done, go back to $p$ and fix the constant of integration to get the condition.






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    • I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
      – Batominovski
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    • @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
      – Claude Leibovici
      Nov 25 at 13:59











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    We have$$2y'y''+x^2y''+2xy'=0$$by integrating we obtain$$(y')^2+(x^2y')+C=0$$since $y'(0)=0$ we have $C=0$ which yields to $$y'=0\text{and/or}\ y'+x^2=0$$therefore$$y=D\text{and/or}\ y'=-{x^3over 3}+D$$once more we have $y(0)=1$ therefore $$y=1\text{and/or }\y=1-{x^3over 3}$$






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      We have$$2y'y''+x^2y''+2xy'=0$$by integrating we obtain$$(y')^2+(x^2y')+C=0$$since $y'(0)=0$ we have $C=0$ which yields to $$y'=0\text{and/or}\ y'+x^2=0$$therefore$$y=D\text{and/or}\ y'=-{x^3over 3}+D$$once more we have $y(0)=1$ therefore $$y=1\text{and/or }\y=1-{x^3over 3}$$






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        We have$$2y'y''+x^2y''+2xy'=0$$by integrating we obtain$$(y')^2+(x^2y')+C=0$$since $y'(0)=0$ we have $C=0$ which yields to $$y'=0\text{and/or}\ y'+x^2=0$$therefore$$y=D\text{and/or}\ y'=-{x^3over 3}+D$$once more we have $y(0)=1$ therefore $$y=1\text{and/or }\y=1-{x^3over 3}$$






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        We have$$2y'y''+x^2y''+2xy'=0$$by integrating we obtain$$(y')^2+(x^2y')+C=0$$since $y'(0)=0$ we have $C=0$ which yields to $$y'=0\text{and/or}\ y'+x^2=0$$therefore$$y=D\text{and/or}\ y'=-{x^3over 3}+D$$once more we have $y(0)=1$ therefore $$y=1\text{and/or }\y=1-{x^3over 3}$$







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            Start with $p=y'$ to get
            $$left(2 p+x^2right) p'+2 x p=0qquad text{with}qquad p(0)=0$$
            Let now $$u=2p+x^2implies p=frac {u-x^2}2implies p'=frac{u'-2x}2$$ Replace to get
            $$frac{1}{2} u u'-x^3=0$$ which seems to be easy to integrate.



            When done, go back to $p$ and fix the constant of integration to get the condition.






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            • I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
              – Batominovski
              Nov 25 at 10:12










            • @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
              – Claude Leibovici
              Nov 25 at 13:59















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            Start with $p=y'$ to get
            $$left(2 p+x^2right) p'+2 x p=0qquad text{with}qquad p(0)=0$$
            Let now $$u=2p+x^2implies p=frac {u-x^2}2implies p'=frac{u'-2x}2$$ Replace to get
            $$frac{1}{2} u u'-x^3=0$$ which seems to be easy to integrate.



            When done, go back to $p$ and fix the constant of integration to get the condition.






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
              – Batominovski
              Nov 25 at 10:12










            • @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
              – Claude Leibovici
              Nov 25 at 13:59













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            Start with $p=y'$ to get
            $$left(2 p+x^2right) p'+2 x p=0qquad text{with}qquad p(0)=0$$
            Let now $$u=2p+x^2implies p=frac {u-x^2}2implies p'=frac{u'-2x}2$$ Replace to get
            $$frac{1}{2} u u'-x^3=0$$ which seems to be easy to integrate.



            When done, go back to $p$ and fix the constant of integration to get the condition.






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Start with $p=y'$ to get
            $$left(2 p+x^2right) p'+2 x p=0qquad text{with}qquad p(0)=0$$
            Let now $$u=2p+x^2implies p=frac {u-x^2}2implies p'=frac{u'-2x}2$$ Replace to get
            $$frac{1}{2} u u'-x^3=0$$ which seems to be easy to integrate.



            When done, go back to $p$ and fix the constant of integration to get the condition.







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            answered Nov 25 at 9:44









            Claude Leibovici

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            • I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
              – Batominovski
              Nov 25 at 10:12










            • @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
              – Claude Leibovici
              Nov 25 at 13:59


















            • I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
              – Batominovski
              Nov 25 at 10:12










            • @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
              – Claude Leibovici
              Nov 25 at 13:59
















            I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
            – Batominovski
            Nov 25 at 10:12




            I think you made a mistake: $p'=dfrac{u'-2x}{2}$.
            – Batominovski
            Nov 25 at 10:12












            @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
            – Claude Leibovici
            Nov 25 at 13:59




            @Batominovski. Thanks for pointing the typo.
            – Claude Leibovici
            Nov 25 at 13:59


















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