Iterated map $x_{n+1} = rx_n(1-x_n^2)$












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In my differential equations homework, which is mostly extremely easy, there is one question which I cannot grasp.



For easier reference, here is the full question as I have been given it:



Consider the iterated map $x_{n+1} = rx_n(1-x_n^2)$



Show that for $0 < r < 3sqrt3/2$ if $0 ≤ x_n ≤ 1$ then $0 ≤ x_{n+1} ≤ 1$. Show that if




  • $r < 1$ then the only fixed point in $(0, 1)$ is zero, and that this is stable. When


  • $r > 1$ there is another fixed point in $(0, 1)$. Find the value of this fixed point
    (as a function of $r$).



For which values of $r$ is it stable, and for which values is
it unstable? What would you expect to happen when $r > 2$?



For the first part, I have managed to get a cubic and have found the minimum and maximum values of $r$ as $x_n$ goes from $0$ to $1$, which I think is the correct way to show it, although I am not sure why $0 < r < 3sqrt 3/2$ is used instead of $0 ≤ r ≤ 3sqrt 3/2$ as I think it's still true for the case when r is equal to those two things.



For the $r<1$ fixed point, I know that $1>x_{n+1}≥0$ as $1≥x_n(1-x_n^2)≥0$, but I don't know what to do from there.



I am quite unsure about how to go about the rest of the question.



Thank you for any help.










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    If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
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In my differential equations homework, which is mostly extremely easy, there is one question which I cannot grasp.



For easier reference, here is the full question as I have been given it:



Consider the iterated map $x_{n+1} = rx_n(1-x_n^2)$



Show that for $0 < r < 3sqrt3/2$ if $0 ≤ x_n ≤ 1$ then $0 ≤ x_{n+1} ≤ 1$. Show that if




  • $r < 1$ then the only fixed point in $(0, 1)$ is zero, and that this is stable. When


  • $r > 1$ there is another fixed point in $(0, 1)$. Find the value of this fixed point
    (as a function of $r$).



For which values of $r$ is it stable, and for which values is
it unstable? What would you expect to happen when $r > 2$?



For the first part, I have managed to get a cubic and have found the minimum and maximum values of $r$ as $x_n$ goes from $0$ to $1$, which I think is the correct way to show it, although I am not sure why $0 < r < 3sqrt 3/2$ is used instead of $0 ≤ r ≤ 3sqrt 3/2$ as I think it's still true for the case when r is equal to those two things.



For the $r<1$ fixed point, I know that $1>x_{n+1}≥0$ as $1≥x_n(1-x_n^2)≥0$, but I don't know what to do from there.



I am quite unsure about how to go about the rest of the question.



Thank you for any help.










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  • $begingroup$
    If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
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    – AlexanderJ93
    Dec 6 '18 at 4:46
















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$begingroup$


In my differential equations homework, which is mostly extremely easy, there is one question which I cannot grasp.



For easier reference, here is the full question as I have been given it:



Consider the iterated map $x_{n+1} = rx_n(1-x_n^2)$



Show that for $0 < r < 3sqrt3/2$ if $0 ≤ x_n ≤ 1$ then $0 ≤ x_{n+1} ≤ 1$. Show that if




  • $r < 1$ then the only fixed point in $(0, 1)$ is zero, and that this is stable. When


  • $r > 1$ there is another fixed point in $(0, 1)$. Find the value of this fixed point
    (as a function of $r$).



For which values of $r$ is it stable, and for which values is
it unstable? What would you expect to happen when $r > 2$?



For the first part, I have managed to get a cubic and have found the minimum and maximum values of $r$ as $x_n$ goes from $0$ to $1$, which I think is the correct way to show it, although I am not sure why $0 < r < 3sqrt 3/2$ is used instead of $0 ≤ r ≤ 3sqrt 3/2$ as I think it's still true for the case when r is equal to those two things.



For the $r<1$ fixed point, I know that $1>x_{n+1}≥0$ as $1≥x_n(1-x_n^2)≥0$, but I don't know what to do from there.



I am quite unsure about how to go about the rest of the question.



Thank you for any help.










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In my differential equations homework, which is mostly extremely easy, there is one question which I cannot grasp.



For easier reference, here is the full question as I have been given it:



Consider the iterated map $x_{n+1} = rx_n(1-x_n^2)$



Show that for $0 < r < 3sqrt3/2$ if $0 ≤ x_n ≤ 1$ then $0 ≤ x_{n+1} ≤ 1$. Show that if




  • $r < 1$ then the only fixed point in $(0, 1)$ is zero, and that this is stable. When


  • $r > 1$ there is another fixed point in $(0, 1)$. Find the value of this fixed point
    (as a function of $r$).



For which values of $r$ is it stable, and for which values is
it unstable? What would you expect to happen when $r > 2$?



For the first part, I have managed to get a cubic and have found the minimum and maximum values of $r$ as $x_n$ goes from $0$ to $1$, which I think is the correct way to show it, although I am not sure why $0 < r < 3sqrt 3/2$ is used instead of $0 ≤ r ≤ 3sqrt 3/2$ as I think it's still true for the case when r is equal to those two things.



For the $r<1$ fixed point, I know that $1>x_{n+1}≥0$ as $1≥x_n(1-x_n^2)≥0$, but I don't know what to do from there.



I am quite unsure about how to go about the rest of the question.



Thank you for any help.







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  • $begingroup$
    If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexanderJ93
    Dec 6 '18 at 4:46




















  • $begingroup$
    If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexanderJ93
    Dec 6 '18 at 4:46


















$begingroup$
If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
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– AlexanderJ93
Dec 6 '18 at 4:46






$begingroup$
If $rin(0,1)$, and $x_nin(0,1)$, so $(1-x_n^2)in(0,1)$. This means that $x_{n+1} = delta_nx_n$ for $delta_nin(0,1)$, so $x_n$ is decreasing as $ntoinfty$.
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– AlexanderJ93
Dec 6 '18 at 4:46












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